Girl, 16, offs herself after being forced to marry her rapist

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Ledan

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Adultism said:
Oh man, This is why I don't ever visit third world countries.
Oi! They aren't all like that!
It's seriously like saying: A plan just crashed? Well im not going on one of those again.
-_-
 

The Human Torch

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Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
I kind of agree with Chanel Tompkins statement as there is to much evidence supporting it not to, but I would have stated it a little differently. I would have said, "Just more proof that everyone but me sucks."
Chanel Tompkins said:
Just more proof that humanity sucks.
I have no wish to start a misanthrope flame war since those are just depressing and circular but yesterday i saw a guy throw some litter on the floor. From this i can tell YOURE an asshole. I rest my case. 1% of the world is unadulterated pure assholery to the extreme. Dont let it affect your view of everything else. I wouldnt, and nor would ANYONE here do this horrific thing. This is the realm of that tiny % of truely evil people. And that isnt fair to jugde everyone based on that. I wouldnt do this. You wouldnt do this, your family wouldnt do this. So lets jugde, i dunno, THE RAPIST rather than eachother :p Maybe the world would suck less if whenever we saw someone do a bad thing we pointed at him and went "Hey that isnt ok" rather than spinning around and screaming "YOURE ALL ASSHOLES ITS THE END OF THE WORLD SOCIATAL DECLINE ALL HUMANITY IS SHIT YOURE ALL TERRIBLE PEOPLE AHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" and running in crazed circles.

Put the guns away buddy, I was just joking! No reason to go all potty mouth on me. You use the word "asshole" like the partially deaf use the word "what" or the phrase "speak into my good ear".
 
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Darth_Dude said:
Goddamn it.
As a Muslim, I just want to set the record straight here.

The Quran states that a woman can't be forced into Marriage. Islamic Hadith and Sunnah (Sayings of the Prophet) and the actions of the Prophets immediate successors clearly show that there must be a heavy punishment for a rapist, but no punishment for the one who has been raped.
Thank you for coming in and letting people know a little more about your religion. It's a valiant effort, and as another poster of faith, I applaud you for it.

I do think the response will be 'Ignorant, closed-minded people turn religion into whatever they want for their own gains or to color the world exactly how they want to see it!!' though. I also think only a few will see the irony that 'Enlightened and logical' people face the same pitfalls.

I'd love to talk more, but this ad captcha tells me there's such a thing as $10 dinner box in Pizza Hut, and I gotta go get like five.
 

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The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
Yeah, lets hate those religious people, fuck them! Hey guys, we should start a hate group!
 

Zeema

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i sometimes wonder if Common sense and Logic is being weeded out of the brains of humans
 

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The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
-sigh-

As I said in a recent post,

"As a Muslim, I just want to set the record straight here.

The Quran states that a woman can't be forced into Marriage. Islamic Hadith and Sunnah (Sayings of the Prophet) and the actions of the Prophets immediate successors clearly show that there must be a heavy punishment for a rapist, but no punishment for the one who has been raped.

Shit like this is a result of Cultural and Tribal practices and traditions, and has NO basis in Islam.

I really dont want anyone to leave this thread thinking Islam is to blame for this."
 

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lol religion u so crazy.

My wisdom is: Once you stop giving people the benefit of the doubt and start just expecting everyone to be a braindead simpleton you'll be much less disappointed in humanity as a whole and all that much more thrilled when you meet someone who is fairly intelligent.
 

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Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
It's exactly what the Bible says. It seems the king of kings, supreme, holy, big daddy God deems that to be a way for the woman to regain her honour.

However, Christians just omit certain verses like that. They clap their hands over their ears and pretend it never existed, then go on the say how the Bible is their basis for morality and justice.

OT: I'm not shocked at all, since this exact thing has happened hundreds of times. Probably thousands if you want to count the centuries that this law has been in place.
 

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viranimus said:
Yaaaa its another overly emotive topic so everyone can complain about how unevolved people other than us are and pat each other on the back for being so much better and progressive people!!!

/eyeroll

Can we stop with this already? Your taking valuable forum space away from very important ME3 threads.

All joking aside, Can we just accept that the world is a shitty place filled with shitty people and bad things are going to happen, Instead of constantly reminding people of it?(directed at the community in general, no one individual)
Not really... if people aren't constantly reminded then they assume the problem has gone away when it hasn't. Heck, people in this very thread are asking if this is true, like these things simply don't happen in the world. Acceptance isn't the same as ignoring.

Besides, the internet is big enough for Mass Effect and commentary on the real world... and what would we do on the internet if not over react about stuff that has little to do with us, and probably will never encounter?
 

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The bible says you can marry your rape victim if you give her father 30 silver pieces, just so you know.

Yes its bad, just be glad we aren't a part of these backwards bizarro societies.

Jeez, seems like every good thing done today is countered by at least 10 bad things. :/
 

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Adultism said:
Oh man, This is why I don't ever visit third world countries.
Silliest thing is that Morocco isn't even a Third World country. It's doing pretty well, especially for an African nation. And from what I've heard from people who traveled there it's generally a gorgeous country with a, generally, really hospitable populace. I'd love to go there actually.

It's just that politically, despite their reforms of last year, they're still backwards, thanks to the influence of the sharia on their legal codes. This sort of thing happens because of it.
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
Yeah, lets hate those religious people, fuck them! Hey guys, we should start a hate group!
I don't hate religious people. Couple of my best friends are Christians and Muslims, but they are not so extreme in their thinking. I hate the religious vocal minority who seem to stop at nothing to make the world a worse place. Would the world be without assholes if we didn't have religion? Of course not.

I want religion gone because it no longer fits in the 21 century. Pretty much all the questions of life have been answered or are close to an answer. We no longer need fictional Gods to explain the world. And we certainly don't need them as a basis for law that forces a rape victim to be married to her attacker.

Captcha: You First.
Damn straight captcha, damn straight.
 

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Darth_Dude said:
The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
-sigh-

As I said in a recent post,

"As a Muslim, I just want to set the record straight here.

The Quran states that a woman can't be forced into Marriage. Islamic Hadith and Sunnah (Sayings of the Prophet) and the actions of the Prophets immediate successors clearly show that there must be a heavy punishment for a rapist, but no punishment for the one who has been raped.

Shit like this is a result of Cultural and Tribal practices and traditions, and has NO basis in Islam.

I really dont want anyone to leave this thread thinking Islam is to blame for this."
Right, it's spelled Quran in English, my apologies, Koran is the Dutch name for it.

On the topic of whether or not it is directly from the Quran, it is a mindset that is based on it. Maybe even based on more older version of the religion. Yes, it is a barbarian tribe law, but all religion started as mere tribe story telling around the campfire.

I am not looking for a debate, if you are a true believer than that is your is right and I am not here to dissuade you from it.
 

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Regnes said:
Eri said:
usmarine4160 said:
Didn't some woman get burned for being a witch like a month ago?
Yes... -_-
Yes but her children got 1 million rupees, bling bling, at least if Ganondorf comes to attack them they have the funds to ward him off without their mother.
1 million rupees... what is that, like 100 American Dollars? I'm sure their new Ipad knock off can ward of Ganondorf... It does come equipped with Android...<.<

OT: this is of course depressing... But I do have very little faith in humanity anyway...
 

Lieju

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Shawn MacDonald said:
Alright now I can rape her some more now that we are married.
Ah, but you see, it cannot be rape if they are married, as it's the wife's duty to be available to the man whenever he wants it. This was the way in the West too not too long ago, unfortunately, and the way many people still think. That rape is something that happens in dark alleys and not in relationships or marriages.

Whenever I read about these kind of things, I must wonder about the girls' consent. Did she even know what sex was? Since in these kinds of societies it tends to be something you just don't talk about, and many girls have only the vaguest idea of what sex is, or that sex and marriage are the same thing, and that sex or pregnancies can't happen out of marriage. (Or that touching a man or seeing them naked or something is the same as having sex with them)

Which makes it impossible for the girl to give consent. Even if she wasn't against the sexual acts, if she had no idea what it actually was, it wasn't consensual.

samsonguy920 said:
We really do have a long way to go. I am completely at a loss at who was the braintrust that thought it was a good idea for victim to marry their rapist.
She lost her virginity, so who else would WANT to marry her? And if a woman cannot marry, what worth does she have? Who will provide for her? Also, I'm not sure how the law is in this case, but often cases the law doesn't much differentiate between rape and consensual sex. Any sex in a marriage is ok, any sex outside marriage is not. So if some kids have sex before they are married, make them quickly marry, it doesn't matter if the girl wanted it or not.

The basic problems in cases like these originate from the inequality of the sexes. There has been attempts to advance the rights of women in Morocco, and some positive progress has been made, but there's still a long way to go.