Girl, 16, offs herself after being forced to marry her rapist

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Darkmantle

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Just more proof that humanity sucks.
nope. just one more proof why the Sharia law and in general the laws of religious books are not only outdated but utter retarded.

and again:
do not hate humanity for the dumb actions of a relatively small group of people.
do not generalize everything.

Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
you should read the bible before making such statements.

the bible might be as fucked up as other religous books but this is certainly not a win for them.

perhaps it is a win for the westboro baptist church. but they on the other hand hate everything.
even their own god.
Actually I have, and I'm almost positive that's in the bible, actually, more specifically, if the rapist pays 50 silver to the raped girls father, he gets to marry her, no questions asked. Perhaps YOU should read it
 

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Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
Uhh no why would they count it as a win ? Christians aren't evil.
And no I don't think it is in the bible.
It totally is, with one caveat, the rapist has to pay 50 silver to the father of the girl he raped.

EDIT: didn't notice someone else answered you
 

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This is what's wrong with the world. All three things: Rape, suicide and forced marriage.
 

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Whoa seriously ? I never knew that and I'm a Christian.
If you're going to base your view on the universe, the nature of reality and morality off of a single book, you should probably actually read the book in question. You'd think that any reasonable person would have done that before accepting the doctrine found inside as true and labelling yourself as a believer of those things.

Oh, and take it from someone who has read the bible from cover to cover, the "Pay the father of the girl you raped 50 shekels then you can own her as property" deal isn't the worst thing you're going to find by far.
 

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Today in awful: a 16-year-old Moroccan girl has reportedly committed suicide after being forced to marry the man who raped her. There is absolutely nothing good about this story.

According to The Delta Herald, the young woman was raped by a man 10 years her senior last year. The family brought charges against him, and, after intervention from the girl's family, the man's family, and acquaintances of both families, a judge decided that instead of subjecting the man to any form of legal punishment, it was probably a good idea to force the two to get married, man and victim. According to Moroccan penal code, a rapist who marries his victim is exempt from legal punishment.

As a result of the crime, the girl was rejected by her father and forced to live in the home of her rapist. And last week, she ended her life by eating rat poison.

Ugh.
http://jezebel.com/5892959/moroccan-girl-kills-herself-after-judge-forces-her-to-marry-her-rapist

I guess I'm not surprised dumb shit keeps going on despite it being 2012. I doubt it will end anytime soon.
you make the unhealthy assumption that everywhere is like it is in first world countries . Realistically speaking , who is to say who's customs are better. People in first world countries are educated in a certain way and has certain rules/ laws they follow , whereas people in third world countries are educated in a different way following different rules/laws . Like the saying says : when in rome do as romans do . It is unfair to judge another country by your standards . Like it is unfair to judge another person by your personal standards/morals.
 

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Well it says that in the bible and I -think- the Qu'ran, me there's more proof that religion is destructive.
So, so tragic for her.
 

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I do sincerely hope that nobody is surprised that being forced to marry your rapist might cause suicide. I'm sure there's a correlation available for being forced to carry your rapist's child, but I don't feel like finding it.
 

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May be a little late, but I found another source:

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/14/200577.html

Just another tragic story from a f**ked up third-world hellhole. F**k Islamic teachings which treat women like property and the fools who believe in them.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
It's exactly what the Bible says. It seems the king of kings, supreme, holy, big daddy God deems that to be a way for the woman to regain her honour.

However, Christians just omit certain verses like that. They clap their hands over their ears and pretend it never existed, then go on the say how the Bible is their basis for morality and justice.

OT: I'm not shocked at all, since this exact thing has happened hundreds of times. Probably thousands if you want to count the centuries that this law has been in place.
There is a difference between a book in the old testament that is there for historical significance and literal word of god actions. Non religious people(or dumb religious people) seem to think that the Bible is just commandments from God and that everything is just to be followed to the letter. No. There is a difference between historical books put in there and the teachings of Christ or a prophet or a disciple. I don't get why this is so hard to comprehend. Its like saying American historians believe in the witch trials because there is a law quoted in a text book that includes them.
 

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I mean how? Just how the bloody hell can he get away with that and the how crappy their laws is????

Also my capta said heart break which is somewhat fitting (well I don't love the laws per say).
 

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Eri said:
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Didn't some woman get burned for being a witch like a month ago?
Yes... -_-
That, and some kid who came over from Africa to live with his sister and her boyfriend (ironically to keep him safe) was tortured to death with screwdrivers and shit by said sister and boyfriend in some attempt to get him to admit to witchcraft.

Apparently he didn't admit anything, so despite it all, I take solace in the fact that kid is one bad-ass ************.
 

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Why is everyone so surprised by this? Apparently we all live within domed cities filled with fenced off communities that are only delivered media filled with smiles and hugs. I'm honestly more shocked at everyone who is already shocked. Not to diminish the terrible situation that girl was placed in (and then resourcefully extricated herself from), but similar or worse things are happening all over the world right now.

Even as I'm writing this I am absolutely sure that somewhere on this planet a baby is being rendered into bacon. Puppies are being used to fill ditches. Someone's son is being trained to enjoy disemboweling his neighbors. The world is a fucked up place; you learn to live with that fact and try not to add to it.

So, in all fairness, this incident is not a sign of the end of humanity; it's proof that there are still humans living on this planet. Humans are a mixed bag.
 

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Fawxy said:
People tell me that you're not supposed to judge other cultures based on your own.

"You're supposed to show tolerance to these cultures! You're in no position to judge whether they're right or wrong!" they say. You know what my answer to that is? Fuck that. Fuck them. And fuck you too, asshole.

That viewpoint might be acceptable when comparing two relatively developed countries... but any civilization that treats its women like this is downright evil. There is no justification.
You may like this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww
(Man I love TED)

On this I'm surprised people thought it was fake, it does happen and quite often to boot. The Bible says that's what you do and in many countries they like to take the Bible as the word of God so...you know...marrying your rapist.
Fun.

But yeah I spent time in India and there was a girl who had paraffin poured on her, then was shoved into a cupboard and they set the cupboard alight. Oh the reasoning? She was raped. A lot of cultures still see it as partly the woman's fault, even in the west we do sometimes. It's just one of those horrible things...
 

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This shit happens all the time, so I'm sorry if I don't even raise an eyebrow when I read this kind of story anymore. I'm not an innocent and blissfully ignorant shielded from the true horrors of the world any longer.

Also, I'm tired of being a misanthrope, because it never solves anything and just makes me more depressed. Yeah, the world sucks. Life sucks for many people. Many humans suck. But I've decided that I'm not going to sit here and continue moaning about it when I have friends and family that I love and generally AREN'T dickbags. I mean, yeah, you know what, humanity probably is going to destroy itself sooner or later, and I'd much rather be, say, a cat so I wouldn't have to face both the sweet release and emotionally horrifying reality of that. Also, cats, or animals in generals, are much better than humans.

Personally, I don't blame the girl for killing herself, after even her family and the authority failed her and she'd be essentially trapped. I'd do the same. What a way to rub salt into the wound by saying, "Oh, so this guy both physically and mentally violated you? Well, screw you, we're going to make you marry and live with him so you can be violated even more! Because you're a woman and it's YOUR fault that you got raped. Allah said so, and he also said you're going to Hell, *****."

Whatever.
 

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Treblaine said:
Darth_Dude said:
The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
-sigh-

As I said in a recent post,

"As a Muslim, I just want to set the record straight here.

The Quran states that a woman can't be forced into Marriage. Islamic Hadith and Sunnah (Sayings of the Prophet) and the actions of the Prophets immediate successors clearly show that there must be a heavy punishment for a rapist, but no punishment for the one who has been raped.

Shit like this is a result of Cultural and Tribal practices and traditions, and has NO basis in Islam.

I really dont want anyone to leave this thread thinking Islam is to blame for this."
Then why has a legal system entirely based on this religion failed to stop this happening?
It's pretty simple, if some 'Muslim' does something contrary to the Quran, they are wrong.
The problem is, people aren't educated enough (both 'here' and over there) to know the difference between tribal and cultural practices, and Islam.
 

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Darth_Dude said:
Treblaine said:
Darth_Dude said:
The Human Torch said:
Darkmantle said:
Hey, it's what it says should happen in the bible isn't it?

should fundamentalist Christians count this as a win?
More the Koran than the Bible, but then again, the Koran is based off the Bible. Take that as you will.
Christianity has gotten over their Crusader period, but unfortunately Islam seems to have the highest average of fuckmothering barbaric acts against humanity at the moment.
Can't wait till we get rid of all religion and pretend that it never happened. Seriously, in 10,000 years they will refer to the 21st century as the dark ages.
-sigh-

As I said in a recent post,

"As a Muslim, I just want to set the record straight here.

The Quran states that a woman can't be forced into Marriage. Islamic Hadith and Sunnah (Sayings of the Prophet) and the actions of the Prophets immediate successors clearly show that there must be a heavy punishment for a rapist, but no punishment for the one who has been raped.

Shit like this is a result of Cultural and Tribal practices and traditions, and has NO basis in Islam.

I really dont want anyone to leave this thread thinking Islam is to blame for this."
Then why has a legal system entirely based on this religion failed to stop this happening?
It's pretty simple, if some 'Muslim' does something contrary to the Quran, they are wrong.
The problem is, people aren't educated enough (both 'here' and over there) to know the difference between tribal and cultural practices, and Islam.
What good is it if Islamic law to simply say "oooh, that rapist was wrong" yet stand idly by as he gets no fitting punishment and his victim suffers worst fate? Sharia law is all about Islamic law APPLIED! This is a blatant double standard.

What the hell? Why are you distinguishing between "tribal" and "cultural"? Under a broad enough definition of tribe NEEDED for it to fit in this case is is synonymous with "culture". A tribe has cultural practices.

Morocco is governed under Sharia Law... you can't then say the laws applied have nothing to do with this religions but some nebulous tribal-yet-not-religious practice. Tribal beliefs are almost always RELIGIOUS beliefs, i.e. that the invisible-supernatural is involved in creation or justification.