according to me ,the more the gore,the better the gameAumichan said:
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Gives me a good way to release frustration !I think the main reason I (a girl) became a gamer is because my dad and my brother are total geeks and I found it necessary as I grew up to mercilessly defeat them at their favorite games. Call it familial rivalry if you like.
I know a lot of girls that play games though I wouldn't necessarily label them 'gamers' they have game cubes, play stations ect. and play games that usually involve whacking your enemy with a big key or being a tiny green boy who likes to play the harmonica or whatever the hell that thing is. I personally only play PC games (unless you count my pitiful attempts at random button mashing)
I agree the more gore in a game the better. Blood and guts combined with beautiful graphics usually result in me not leaving my room for a good couple of days. I know there are other girls out there who feel the same, (or else the PMS clan and the Frag Dolls would not exist) I've even met a few at Lan Parties. But I think most girls just weren't exposed to games like I was. If I was just learning how to play a computer game at my age (16) and I sucked (which lets face it we all did at some point) I would probably abandon the game immediately and do something else that didn't make me feel like such a idiot. but hey thats just me.
I know a lot of girls that play games though I wouldn't necessarily label them 'gamers' they have game cubes, play stations ect. and play games that usually involve whacking your enemy with a big key or being a tiny green boy who likes to play the harmonica or whatever the hell that thing is. I personally only play PC games (unless you count my pitiful attempts at random button mashing)
I agree the more gore in a game the better. Blood and guts combined with beautiful graphics usually result in me not leaving my room for a good couple of days. I know there are other girls out there who feel the same, (or else the PMS clan and the Frag Dolls would not exist) I've even met a few at Lan Parties. But I think most girls just weren't exposed to games like I was. If I was just learning how to play a computer game at my age (16) and I sucked (which lets face it we all did at some point) I would probably abandon the game immediately and do something else that didn't make me feel like such a idiot. but hey thats just me.
In my life, I've owned a SNES, N64, Sega Saturn (RIP), GameBoy original (the big gray one), GBA, Nintendo DS, Wii and PS2.
I kinda slept through the N64-Saturn era (I only owned Zelda) and only picked up the PS2 a couple of years ago. I was in college, in a sci-fi lit class, when several guys brought their GameCube and XBoxes to class, all in the name of 'research'.
All the girls left, expect myself. When I saw how far graphics (the guys were playing Metroid Prime) had advanced, I cried 'ME WANT' and bought myself a slim down PS2. It felt good getting back in the saddle after so long, because I had good memories of playing Nights and Mario with my girl friends, but also because I felt that if I didn't go back to gaming, I was going to be seriously left behind.
So far, I focus on action/adventure games, but as I research games that I never played when I was a kid, I've found that stuff like the Final Fantasy and Prince of Persia to rock. RPGs are my bread and butter, but RE4 Wii was made of awesome and I want more of it. I also own the Half-Life series and Portal (thanks, Orange Box!), Guild Wars and The Sims 2. And wherever Kingdom Hearts goes, I shall follow.
Games I didn't like included GTA San Andreas and some crappy RPG that seemed to be ported right from an arcade. GTA was too gangsta, and the RPG looked too cheap. Basically, I'll play anything, as long as it looks good and I can relate, even a little bit.
I kinda slept through the N64-Saturn era (I only owned Zelda) and only picked up the PS2 a couple of years ago. I was in college, in a sci-fi lit class, when several guys brought their GameCube and XBoxes to class, all in the name of 'research'.
All the girls left, expect myself. When I saw how far graphics (the guys were playing Metroid Prime) had advanced, I cried 'ME WANT' and bought myself a slim down PS2. It felt good getting back in the saddle after so long, because I had good memories of playing Nights and Mario with my girl friends, but also because I felt that if I didn't go back to gaming, I was going to be seriously left behind.
So far, I focus on action/adventure games, but as I research games that I never played when I was a kid, I've found that stuff like the Final Fantasy and Prince of Persia to rock. RPGs are my bread and butter, but RE4 Wii was made of awesome and I want more of it. I also own the Half-Life series and Portal (thanks, Orange Box!), Guild Wars and The Sims 2. And wherever Kingdom Hearts goes, I shall follow.
Games I didn't like included GTA San Andreas and some crappy RPG that seemed to be ported right from an arcade. GTA was too gangsta, and the RPG looked too cheap. Basically, I'll play anything, as long as it looks good and I can relate, even a little bit.
Now I myself move in somewhat different circles to most people, but I still find that a lot of my female friends don't play games. Among the ones that do, about half play in a manner that would be considered 'obsessive'. I myself (A female, for those who have not guessed.) first got into gaming through Starcraft, Duke Nukkem, Commander Keen and Worms back in the good old days when I was a younger child. Progressing through the stage of Age of Empires, Baldur's Gate and the like, I now play Starcraft, Psychonauts, Deus Ex, Half-life, Silent Hill, Unreal Tournament and whatever else I feel like at the time. Of all of these, I'd say my Unreal Tournament and Deus Ex addictions are the most obsessive.
I have yet to actually -buy- the Orange Box, but I also have yet to achieve the financial level that permits such a thing to drop into my lap so I can salivate over it. Playing Portal at a friend's place simply made me crave.
I have yet to actually -buy- the Orange Box, but I also have yet to achieve the financial level that permits such a thing to drop into my lap so I can salivate over it. Playing Portal at a friend's place simply made me crave.
Last I read regarding online PC games was that over half of the gamers were female. A high percentage of those will be casual games, but certainly an increasing percentage of gamers are female. The level of female gamers will probably also increase as games get better. Let's face it, men are much more easily entertained than are women.Dectilon said:
You do realize that you just fit yourself into what everyone thinks about the stereotypical gamer right? Black, black, black, hates society, free thinking, everyone just falls into the pack, blah blah blah. I'm not saying you are personally like that, but I find it funny that when people are wearing all black, lots of people think that (unless you are actually open minded and understand that is no true conformity, which let's face it, I can count how many people think that on one hand).Erana said:
I bet someone with a laser pointer could keep you entertained for hours. Hey! *pounce* What? *pounce* Gettit! *pouncepouncepounce*Necrohydra said:
Well thats hardly fai... ooh, something shiny! Heh, well, my attention span lasts.. well, I've so many unfinished CS, DoD and now TF2 maps on my comp its somewhat depressing. Thats something; how many female programmers are there out there? Because that may be an interesting statistic to find out..mshcherbatskaya said:
Ah, the debate of decades...
It's certainly true that a lot less girls seem to play games than guys, I have a few theories...
1. Girls tend to do lots more socially. Maybe this is by virtue of being a girl, but growing up I always found that girls would go shopping, walk around aimlessly talking, go to the cinema, just spend the day at each others' houses doing whatever came to mind... whereas boys tended to go for playing sports, going to the pub, or cramming five of themselves onto a two-seater sofa with a consignment of XBox controllers. If I ever played games with my non-gamer girl friends, it was usually fifteen minutes of "oh you have to see this, it's so cool", after which we'd go get a drink and sit in the garden laughing at strangers.
2. Girls often get bored of FPSs and RTSs. I can't stand FPSs for the most part - there are only so many ways you can shoot someone, and after a few minutes, you run out, and it just feels like a grind. If you're going to play a game in which you kill people, you might at least do it with style - sneaking up on someone and knifing them is much more satisfying than shooting them from behind a Conveniently Placed In The Middle Of Nowhere wall of sandbags. I love RTSs, but I know most of my female friends get instantly turned off by anything describable as a "war game".
3. Many girls are quieter in games. We don't feel the need to confirm the presence of our breasts by calling anyone else with them a dyke - so there goes a large percentage of ingame chatter .
4. I forgot this one.
5. I forgot this one too.
6. Most of the girl gamers I know adore RPGs. A few play MMORPGs, but a lot just play one HELL of a lot of Oblivion. I guess there are less multiplayer RPGs than other games? It pretty much rules out XBox Live for a start.
Well as said, all these apply to *most* girls *I* know, so you can stop typing "I'm a girl and this is all BS!!!" now - but just a few thoughts.
As for the people who suggested it was mostly social influence.. well I can't comment on now, because now, at the age of 16, I look at small children and think "Their parents should be shot. wtf is that?? This kid is five! It should be playing with xyz, not smoking on my front garden!". But when I was a kid, it was definitely the case that boys played runescape and girls played the Sims. Not sure why, but the sexism theory holds water.
(Incidentally, I was saved from this stereotype by joining a Sims 2 forum, becoming friendly with a few staff/veteran members; who then proceeded to inform me that they were staff because they loved the forum, and hated the game. Then they held my head under the water of C&C, Morrowind and Dungeon Seige 2 for a while, and I emerged choking in disgust at my own previous bad taste in games.)
Female programmers - I know about four serious (ie professional) male programmers, and two female ones. Not sure if this is generally accurate but it fits the stereotype.
It's certainly true that a lot less girls seem to play games than guys, I have a few theories...
1. Girls tend to do lots more socially. Maybe this is by virtue of being a girl, but growing up I always found that girls would go shopping, walk around aimlessly talking, go to the cinema, just spend the day at each others' houses doing whatever came to mind... whereas boys tended to go for playing sports, going to the pub, or cramming five of themselves onto a two-seater sofa with a consignment of XBox controllers. If I ever played games with my non-gamer girl friends, it was usually fifteen minutes of "oh you have to see this, it's so cool", after which we'd go get a drink and sit in the garden laughing at strangers.
2. Girls often get bored of FPSs and RTSs. I can't stand FPSs for the most part - there are only so many ways you can shoot someone, and after a few minutes, you run out, and it just feels like a grind. If you're going to play a game in which you kill people, you might at least do it with style - sneaking up on someone and knifing them is much more satisfying than shooting them from behind a Conveniently Placed In The Middle Of Nowhere wall of sandbags. I love RTSs, but I know most of my female friends get instantly turned off by anything describable as a "war game".
3. Many girls are quieter in games. We don't feel the need to confirm the presence of our breasts by calling anyone else with them a dyke - so there goes a large percentage of ingame chatter
.4. I forgot this one.
5. I forgot this one too.
6. Most of the girl gamers I know adore RPGs. A few play MMORPGs, but a lot just play one HELL of a lot of Oblivion. I guess there are less multiplayer RPGs than other games? It pretty much rules out XBox Live for a start.
Well as said, all these apply to *most* girls *I* know, so you can stop typing "I'm a girl and this is all BS!!!" now - but just a few thoughts.
As for the people who suggested it was mostly social influence.. well I can't comment on now, because now, at the age of 16, I look at small children and think "Their parents should be shot. wtf is that?? This kid is five! It should be playing with xyz, not smoking on my front garden!". But when I was a kid, it was definitely the case that boys played runescape and girls played the Sims. Not sure why, but the sexism theory holds water.
(Incidentally, I was saved from this stereotype by joining a Sims 2 forum, becoming friendly with a few staff/veteran members; who then proceeded to inform me that they were staff because they loved the forum, and hated the game. Then they held my head under the water of C&C, Morrowind and Dungeon Seige 2 for a while, and I emerged choking in disgust at my own previous bad taste in games.)
Female programmers - I know about four serious (ie professional) male programmers, and two female ones. Not sure if this is generally accurate but it fits the stereotype.
Yes. Your measurements *shot* Actually, No. *thinks* What is i²?Erana said:
Yeh 2-1 ratio seems about right tbh.
I am girl. I play games.
Not many games, but the ones I do play I play religiously, faithfully, and constantly. My favorite franchise for a long time was "Devil May Cry" though the 4th one is good ONLY because it reminds me of the 3rd one, which I loved. The plotholes and gaps in logic do make me cry though. Ocarina of Time was the game that got me into games, though I played Myst and Under a Killing Moon when I was younger. My favorite recent game is "Assassin's Creed" because it is beautiful and wonderful and I don't care if it's not perfect, I love it anyway. And if Ubi Montreal does not get to keep it and make the sequel, I will kick several people in the balls.
As for girl game designers, the two main programmers of Portal are women. Young women too: scouted by Valve as students.
Can we not divide Gamers into "real gamers" and "girl gamers?" Can't we all just be gamers here?
Thank you.
Not many games, but the ones I do play I play religiously, faithfully, and constantly. My favorite franchise for a long time was "Devil May Cry" though the 4th one is good ONLY because it reminds me of the 3rd one, which I loved. The plotholes and gaps in logic do make me cry though. Ocarina of Time was the game that got me into games, though I played Myst and Under a Killing Moon when I was younger. My favorite recent game is "Assassin's Creed" because it is beautiful and wonderful and I don't care if it's not perfect, I love it anyway. And if Ubi Montreal does not get to keep it and make the sequel, I will kick several people in the balls.
As for girl game designers, the two main programmers of Portal are women. Young women too: scouted by Valve as students.
Can we not divide Gamers into "real gamers" and "girl gamers?" Can't we all just be gamers here?
Thank you.
I think I've previously said I don't classify myself as a gamer so much as someone with a lot of time on their hands and a very geeky outlook on life. However I know from long experience (yes, mid eighties and now I feel oh so old) that girls are in the minority on the gaming front...at least in the online gaming front, which I suppose is the only way to judge it. If your boyfriend says "Try Portal woman!" and you wah about it initially and ignorantly say it looks like the dozen other games he's tried to shovel you into getting involved with you'll never know. I lost almost a week of my life playing that and going "WHEEE!" But essentially I got my face taped to the monitor and I realised there was more to life than Baldurs Gate and boyhood doesn't consist entirely of Duke Nukem...and I'll leave a big pause here for everyone who wants to laugh so hard their pants explode.
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Girly gamers, as I've found them, tend to like puzzle games, the RPG side of MMORPGs and anything that in fact uses their brain rather than insane "KILL" response techniques. They work with strategy rather than going "YO T32342 GEAR ***** EAT MAH DOTS" and focussing on finishing the game. They enjoy the same things as guys, but they actually take the time to enjoy it.
Slash end pause.
Girly gamers, as I've found them, tend to like puzzle games, the RPG side of MMORPGs and anything that in fact uses their brain rather than insane "KILL" response techniques. They work with strategy rather than going "YO T32342 GEAR ***** EAT MAH DOTS" and focussing on finishing the game. They enjoy the same things as guys, but they actually take the time to enjoy it.
I'm not sure why women and girls play video games less then guys. The second I walked into an arcade when I was 6, I was hooked forever. My mom actually working there and her boss giving us handfuls and handfuls of free tokens might have had something to do with it. But I digress. It's probably just the "boys play with games and girls play with dolls" stereotype.
Plus the gaming industry is geared toward males and so is the advertising. Which makes sense actually since the majority of their consumers are males but it has the downfall of not really attracting little girls. And the games geared specifically to females are usually horrendous. I'm not talking about cutesy sim type games. Killing beholders is spectacular but raising cows is pretty fun too (haha). Case in point:
http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/games_4_girls_a.html
Sure focused towards little girls and on the DS no less, but still. Even the casual games made for girls suck. So in the end, I think it's a combination of conditioning as a child and what games or lack there of that girls and later women are exposed to.
Plus the gaming industry is geared toward males and so is the advertising. Which makes sense actually since the majority of their consumers are males but it has the downfall of not really attracting little girls. And the games geared specifically to females are usually horrendous. I'm not talking about cutesy sim type games. Killing beholders is spectacular but raising cows is pretty fun too (haha). Case in point:
http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/games_4_girls_a.html
Sure focused towards little girls and on the DS no less, but still. Even the casual games made for girls suck. So in the end, I think it's a combination of conditioning as a child and what games or lack there of that girls and later women are exposed to.
This has most likely been covered, but im a girl gamer and im into just about all genres, we are a rare breed, not non-existant just unevenly represented. im the only one I know, the reason i tend to not be overt about my gaming is beacaue it tends to desexualise you, online is different but off, the guys see me as one of them, and i want to be a girl AND a gamer.
To all the girl gamers who have been treated 'a certain way' because they're a girl...
Go on a game and create a very male character, no matching colours (unless it's black) and one that screams testosterone; now join a pick up group and see if there's a difference, both good and bad.
Please. It did wonders for my girlfriends view of things.
Go on a game and create a very male character, no matching colours (unless it's black) and one that screams testosterone; now join a pick up group and see if there's a difference, both good and bad.
Please. It did wonders for my girlfriends view of things.
One little thing about the 'how many female gamers are out there' researches; the outcomes depend heavily on what the researchers see as games. If we only include games that you buy in a (online) shop, the mainstream games, yeah, girls get nowhere near 50%. But some researchers also include solitaire, which you can find on every PC, and those little flash games. And in that case, a LOT of women game. Most women I know regularly play a bit of solitaire on their computers. Often also play a bit of flash games. Now, people could say 'but that's no a game'. And I'd reply; 'why not?'.