"Girl Gamers"
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Just to let you know, your quoting didn't work and you sort of multiple posted, which is frowned upon. Just make sure if you want to add something you "edit" rather than "reply"
No prob. Probably a good thread to practice on since after nine pages, looks like the discussion has wound down a bit. ^_^Mr.logic said:
Yup, and you can even edit the quote stuff down, but be aware of the brackets, they surround whose quote it is. I messed that up the first time I tried to quoteMr.logic said:
Reported since that's not funny, just somewhat insulting (although I do agree with number 2 in games with microphones) and stupid *insert dumb pug face here* Oh, and the "prove with nude pics" is the reason this whole thread had to exist in the first place because its sexist, even in sarcasm. We shouldn't have to prove anything to you. If someone tells you something, take it with a grain of salt because internet anonymity makes everything suspect.DeadlyGlitch said:
There are plenty of girl gamers. This smokin' babe came into work (I work at EB games) and she bought some WoW stuff (sigh, it's still a game though). I thought it was for her boyfriend or whatever, so I got talking and she said it was for her. Needless to say I couldn't believe it and she's easily the best looking gamer I've ever seen.
Too many replies to read, so I will just weigh in and hope no one thinks I'm a c/p knob. Also, I just signed up. Hiya everybody!
I am also sick of the 'girl gamer' tag, mostly because it's attention seeking whores who wave the banner to be cute and mysterious, or something. And worst than that, their antics are as out as date as that can of baked beans from the early 90s at the back of my cupboard. That might have worked 10 years, but for Jeebus' sake, 'girl gamers' are so bloody common there's no bloody point.
Carrying on from that, many of the statements by the OP are redunant. Female gamers, while out of proportion to male gamers, have gathered to a significant percentage. What percentage that is, well, no clue here, but it's damn significant. And it was a steady rise. This hasn't been an invasion into male territory, rather females wandered into the wilderness and were assimilated.
Females would have partaken in serious gaming earlier, save for the days of NES and the early Sega consoles, but they were told that 'girls don't play games' and were given barbies and pink ribbons. As far as I'm concerned, nature's just sorting itself out. Frankly, we're all exposed to the same media and thanks to the internet, females have exposed themselves as the pathetic geeks males always dreamed they would be. Is it really so shocking that a female would enjoy car jacking and blowing the brains out of their fellow man as much as a male? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Game designers aren't wasting their time by developing female characters. They waste their time when they underdevelop their story and game mechanics. A female in a game won't make a female want to buy that game, they will purchase it because they heard it was awesome or because they're morons with a lot of cash. What matters is respect for the game. If the characters are poorly written, including the women, they will trash talk it online and there's a damn good chance every legit reviewer has anyway. Story matters these days and that's hardly the domain of those with overies. Choosing to develop females characters just means there's more room for new ideas and scenarios.
And if you didn't pick it up, I am female. And we fucking own the JRPG market. You want proof the famale gamer is plentiful and powerful, play a Square Enix game.
I am also sick of the 'girl gamer' tag, mostly because it's attention seeking whores who wave the banner to be cute and mysterious, or something. And worst than that, their antics are as out as date as that can of baked beans from the early 90s at the back of my cupboard. That might have worked 10 years, but for Jeebus' sake, 'girl gamers' are so bloody common there's no bloody point.
Carrying on from that, many of the statements by the OP are redunant. Female gamers, while out of proportion to male gamers, have gathered to a significant percentage. What percentage that is, well, no clue here, but it's damn significant. And it was a steady rise. This hasn't been an invasion into male territory, rather females wandered into the wilderness and were assimilated.
Females would have partaken in serious gaming earlier, save for the days of NES and the early Sega consoles, but they were told that 'girls don't play games' and were given barbies and pink ribbons. As far as I'm concerned, nature's just sorting itself out. Frankly, we're all exposed to the same media and thanks to the internet, females have exposed themselves as the pathetic geeks males always dreamed they would be. Is it really so shocking that a female would enjoy car jacking and blowing the brains out of their fellow man as much as a male? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Game designers aren't wasting their time by developing female characters. They waste their time when they underdevelop their story and game mechanics. A female in a game won't make a female want to buy that game, they will purchase it because they heard it was awesome or because they're morons with a lot of cash. What matters is respect for the game. If the characters are poorly written, including the women, they will trash talk it online and there's a damn good chance every legit reviewer has anyway. Story matters these days and that's hardly the domain of those with overies. Choosing to develop females characters just means there's more room for new ideas and scenarios.
And if you didn't pick it up, I am female. And we fucking own the JRPG market. You want proof the famale gamer is plentiful and powerful, play a Square Enix game.
JRPGs tend to be feminine because in Japan, femininity is found to be an sought after trait among men in Japan. Men in Japan want to look womanly (J-Pop stars) just as men in America want to look ripped and full of testosterone (The majority, games like Gears of War show this trend). All of Squeenix's games are made like that because it will sell better in JAPAN. Has nothing to do with the Female American gamer market.kawaiiamethist said:
You don't OWN the JRPG market though the majority of girl gamers I have met like JRPGs. I would say it's 50/50 because JRPG fans tend to be huge Anime fans and that is definately an even split.
I'm aware of the girlified trends in Japan, I do watch anime, I refer more to the West. 'Own' was too strong a word, I admit, perhaps 'dominate' would be better suited. We dominate JRPGs like males dominate FPS. These days I like to think fandoms speak volumes, the efforts put in post gaming experience, whether it be praising on the internet, violently bashing it whenever you can, making youtube videos, flash games, fan fiction, fan art, ect. Females, while not more creative, are more willing to invest efforts into writing stories and drawing pretty pictures of their angsty lady boys. When it comes to fandoms, females either invest more of their emotional energy or are simply more vocal.auronvi said:
Uhh do you actually pay attention to the writing in games? Guys aren't really getting a fair shake by them either. We get 2 characters to represent us 90% of the time. Either the big barrel chested caveman or the amnesiac spiky haired teenager who got dressed in the dark. The other 10% are just plain assholes.Evil Tim said:
Firstly, I want to express my disgust for this long-driven and possibly pointless topic. I'm just stating my opinion here, but I really believe It doesn't matter whether you're male/female/hermaphrodite/anything else. I really have no idea where this landed first and who started it. I for one, am a girl, and for as long as I can remember, I never got any discriminating comments when I played MMOs , or when I introduced myself as being a hardcore gamer, who is by chance, female. I remember back in the days when I first got into the MMO train....most of my mates could not believe I was in fact a girl.
All I know is that anyone,female or male, can be called gamers if their hobby includes spending a third of your week in front of a PC, Playstation or Xbox (heck, Amiga why not, that's how we all started, I guess)
And as for female/male characters in games.....God don't get me started...
All I know is that anyone,female or male, can be called gamers if their hobby includes spending a third of your week in front of a PC, Playstation or Xbox (heck, Amiga why not, that's how we all started, I guess)
And as for female/male characters in games.....God don't get me started...
I agree. But considering the amount of children... yeah Amiga.Lexandra said:
But I want to get you started on female characters. It could turn out really funny, go ahead, what pisses you off?
To the person who started this forum.
I agree with you the people who are sexist and decide that men are gamers and women are girl gamer's is a difference that is stupid.
And to many people who say women are unequal to men.
W.T.F?
They have the Vaginas in my case THERE in control!
I agree with you the people who are sexist and decide that men are gamers and women are girl gamer's is a difference that is stupid.
And to many people who say women are unequal to men.
W.T.F?
They have the Vaginas in my case THERE in control!
Whenever I dare hear of female/male controversy in games well....I just begin to foam at the mouth. I mean....I do enjoy my share of big breasted blue eyed blond chicks, or the big and bulky 'can I fix your plumbing' dark and shiny knight....but Jesus, it's becoming incredibly dull.
There's just no more originality when it comes to character creation. For once in my life I'd like to play as a wicked grumpy flat chested amazon warrior with brains, demanding blood and sacrifices and riding on her pet Cerberus....or something equally as disturbing
There's just no more originality when it comes to character creation. For once in my life I'd like to play as a wicked grumpy flat chested amazon warrior with brains, demanding blood and sacrifices and riding on her pet Cerberus....or something equally as disturbing
Oh come on, male characters can be anything from comically stoic muscleheads [and even they can be charmingly rather than offensively dumb, as per Serious Sam in First and Second Encounter] to wisecracking comic book nerds [see Viewtiful Joe]. In fact, the ludicrously pumped male being in any way ubiquitous is an absurd exaggeration; for every game starring Thunk Lugnut & Friends there's a dozen characters like Gordon Freeman or Max Payne who are physically ordinary.squid5580 said:
You would have a point if the average male character was as grotesquely under-dressed and over-sexualised as, say, Voldo, but they're not.