sorry man .. i've already answered them all .. scroll up if you really wanna know .. but i wash my hands of this thread as of now .. it's too drainingdanpascooch said:Are you fucking kidding me?SsilverR said:i can't comment on this without first knowing more about the situation .. for all i know her parents ordered her to do it because the pet unintentionally got preggo and they couldn't afford to keep the pups .. no one else would take them and that was their final option
puppies are expensive and they require ALOT of attention .. more so than kittens .. it may be sad for us to witness (including me, i'm a huge dog lover, this video hurt me alot) but there might have been no other choice .. this is reality and i'll face it as an adult
Give me ONE situation when there is NO CHOICE but to violently throw a barrel of puppies in a fucking river, seriously, I don't want to call you stupid, but you're making it very hard for me.
1.) Give them to a shelter
2.) Keep them
3.) Abandon them
4.) Gently Place them in a river
5.) Pile them in a bucket, and huck them into the middle of the river like you're playing a game of extreme skeeball.
The first two are proper options, three is not cool but it's possible that you have no other choice, four would work, but only if the puppies WERE ON FIRE, five? Fuck no, no reason, ever.
They're already working their magic. It's how I found out about it.DeadlyYellow said:Jeez, if those were cats 4Chan would be wrecking her life about now.
Just because it's a sort of tradition does not make it okay. If it was expected that your third child should be thrown in a river because it may be a burden, is it suddenly okay then. You can't sacrifice being a decent person simply to save a few bucks.Treeinthewoods said:Was anyone here raised in a rural environment? I was raised herding sheep, growing alfalfa and working on a neighbors dairy. To most people in rural areas animals are more of a tool then a pet (cats are kept on the farm to eat mice, dogs herd sheep and fight coyote). They are not family members in the least so killing one is the same as slaughtering one of your pigs or cows. One dog killed a chicken in my neighbors coop, he was shot upon discovery. A doberman pinscher that was on the farm for years pinned me down and bit me on the shoulder while I was playing on the haypile, my grandma shot him herself. My point is, this view is also held by people that live in cites and all kinds of places.
If puppies are born and they are mixed breed (ie - won't be naturally good herding or working dogs) they are a burden, not a blessing. They keep your good ***** from working and they will only cost more money then they make you. Farm life is not easy, every penny really does count.
A common way to get rid of unwanted/useless puppies? Bag with rocks into the river. Remember, they are not people. Hell, if you think they are just assume the suffering is over and they won't have to starve later on or get beat the shit out of every day by uncaring owners.
I have a dog and two cats now (I live in the city at last) and I do care about them, but I would drown them all twice to save even one random human without thinking twice. Honestly, if you would prioritize an animal over a person you are at least as psychotic as the girl in the video.
I feel people that kill other people for no reason and derive pleasure from it deserve to die too if that helps.dathwampeer said:You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.
Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.
You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
this is my final post heredanpascooch said:LEAVE THE PUPPIES IN A FUCKING FIELD.SsilverR said:ok please hear me out .. some of these country folk live a long, LONG way from any organisations that may have taken these pups in ... maybe they didn't have guns .. maybe getting their kids to throw the pups in a river was all they could see as humane .. maybe they thought there was a chance that the pups would survive and make it on their own somehow, maybe they didn't have the heart to ring their necks and watch them die.Thamous said:Yeah, we wouldn't won't people to have to go out of their way or anything. It's probably better they just toss the dogs in a river.SsilverR said:firsly, here in the UK psychiatric care is free ... spraying a dog ISN'T .. handing them in may require time and effort .. none of which they may of hadsilversnake4133 said:Well, if they were so inadequate to care for them, why didn't they just hand them over to an animal shelter? And in the case of an accidental pregnancy, why didn't they have the dog spayed or neutered? And if those parents told her to do this then they could face some serious charges. (High fines and jail time.) That girl will likely be thrown into Juvenile Detention or sent to a Psychiatrist. (And neither are cheap.)SsilverR said:i can't comment on this without first knowing more about the situation .. for all i know her parents ordered her to do it because the pet unintentionally got preggo and they couldn't afford to keep the pups .. no one else would take them and that was their final option
puppies are expensive and they require ALOT of attention .. more so than kittens .. it may be sad for us to witness (including me, i'm a huge dog lover, this video hurt me alot) but there might have been no other choice .. this is reality and i'll face it as an adult
As for the expensiveness, puppies are a lot cheaper than you'd expect. Sure they require food, water, something to keep them entertained, but if you were to compare the expenses of a puppy to those of a single human child, you'd probably be surprised. Plus a dog ages 7x faster than a human so by the time it turns 14ish, that doggie will soon be gone forever. Unlike a human child that could stay with his or her parents a good 24 years before even thinking of moving out on their own.
So really, which was the costlier decision?
ok before i explain further .. let me first let you all know that i'm not trying to directly defend this girls actions .. i'm merelyn stating the possibilities for such actions ... many of you people seem to even take that personally ...
don't even compare a puppy to a human child .. of course these people would be more willing to take care of their child over puppies ... also .. YES a puppy is WAY cheaper to take care of than a human child ... but what if you could barely afford to care for a child .. the puppy would then be out of the question .. the nearest animal shelter may be a hundred or more miles away.
all i'm saying is that it's not our place to judge this unless we knew everything about the situation .. maybe it WAS the only way they had
pups will come back if you just leave them on the road .. hell i would've taken them all in if i was there .. but this is life and these things happen .. not sometimes .. but ALOT ... you can't always blame one side because it seems the worst at first glance
That's like saying "maybe they were a long way from civilization, so they decided TO SHOOT THEM OUT OF THE AIR LIKE CLAY PIDGEONS!
I don't care where you live, violently hurling puppies to a watery death is never alright, not even close, and it obviously isn't your idiotic scenario, if so, why the FUCK would they FILM it!?
Just because animals aren't humans doesn't mean we don't have strong attachments to our domesticated pets. I have yet to see one member on this forum disregard human suffering, but still get outraged over drowning animals in a fucking river like this.dathwampeer said:You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.
Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.
You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Fair enough.Thamous said:Alright, I just wanna say this now. Lets not make this into an argument about abortion.martin said:You're silly. Getting an abortion is not killing a baby.silversnake4133 said:Probably because people hate other people more than they do animals. Plus I think a person would have a better time at fighting back than puppies would. And if you want to argue about homicides against babies, then direct your attention toward abortionists and how babies would be on the same level defense-wise as those puppies were.Chester41585 said:I like how people are generally "meh" about homicides, but flip their shit when someone kills a puppy. It genuinely entertains me.
I honestly don't know how to respond to that...martin said:You're silly. Getting an abortion is not killing a baby.silversnake4133 said:Probably because people hate other people more than they do animals. Plus I think a person would have a better time at fighting back than puppies would. And if you want to argue about homicides against babies, then direct your attention toward abortionists and how babies would be on the same level defense-wise as those puppies were.Chester41585 said:I like how people are generally "meh" about homicides, but flip their shit when someone kills a puppy. It genuinely entertains me.
Added some emphasis here, you seem to be confusing a person with a dog and should read the last paragraph of my post again.Thamous said:Just because it's a sort of tradition does not make it okay. If it was expected that your third child should be thrown in a river because it may be a burden, is it suddenly okay then. You can't sacrifice being a decent person simply to save a few bucks.Treeinthewoods said:El SNIP.
You could respond by acknowledging that not everyone has the same opinion as your own.silversnake4133 said:I honestly don't know how to respond to that...martin said:You're silly. Getting an abortion is not killing a baby.silversnake4133 said:Probably because people hate other people more than they do animals. Plus I think a person would have a better time at fighting back than puppies would. And if you want to argue about homicides against babies, then direct your attention toward abortionists and how babies would be on the same level defense-wise as those puppies were.Chester41585 said:I like how people are generally "meh" about homicides, but flip their shit when someone kills a puppy. It genuinely entertains me.
Police don't do shit lol... just throw her somewhere in Afghanistan she'll do "fine..."dathwampeer said:Loldanpascooch said:I'm just gonna be straight here, this was probably the best post ever, I laughed my ass of at that line, I hate when people try to distract you from the important points by splitting hairs like "people are technically animals" when it's totally irrelevant.dathwampeer said:Because no matter how much you wanna fuck that chimp. It's not human bro.
Seriously, good for you, too many people forsake logic, but I love the point-by-point clusterfuck, it's my favorite type of post.
I agree mostly with what you said, except the part that her life is worth more than those puppies, is an average human worth more? Yes. Is she worth more than a single puppy? Probably. All those puppies? No, because she's a crazy puppy killer, so she's not worth very much.
I'm glad it made someone other than me chuckle XD
Yea. I know where you're coming from. Because of her actions she is kind of lessening her worth. And if it came down to me choosing to save a bucket full of puppies or her from some impending doom, you'd better believe I'd choose the puppies.
But from a legal and probably ethical view. She's still human and I don't condone 'burning the *****' just because we hate her. That shit sounds good on paper. But it would just be people burning people all over the place within a week if that was made law.
I say if we find her. Provide her local police with the video and the address. And let shit get sorted out properly.
If she gets off scott free then we can discuss the other options... probably including napalm.
Aww, I have a Rotty too! I agree with your ideal to always think logically first and emotionally second, but in this case I kind of wish they would have though of other ways to alleviate the puppies from their possession without hastily resorting to such a brutal ultimatum.SsilverR said:it's cool, i understand .. i'm a dog owner myself (got a 1 and a half year old Rottweiler called cesar) althought this vid hurt me genuinely i always remembered the words my father told me "think with your brain first and your heart second" ... to tell you the truth this conversation was very draining ... even though it feels wrong i have to view this situation logically and i'm taking the side i wouldn't instinctively take ... for now all i wanna do is hug cesar and say thanks that i was able to afford him and he wasn't born into such a situation .. LOL no matter what time i wake him up he's never grumpy ROTFL .. always happy i'm ther
holy shit this topic almost brought a tear to my eye.
I am not completely sure that I would kill the girl had I come across that scene, but it is a given that she and her pal there filming that would've wound up in that river as well. Depending on how things went down they would likely have a few bruises and possibly a broken bone or two. I might even take their clothes, phones and money as well to maximize their suffering. I wouldn't just straight up kill them through.Julianking93 said:Already a thread about that but as I said before, I'm resisting the urge to go find and kill the *****.
Human's murdering humans has become commonplace it isn't considered shocking. When it comes to puppies not only is almost unheard of, its the fact that puppies have done nothing to wrong you and cannot defend themselves. It expresses a problem with you so deep and disturber that nothing anybody can ever do will fix it.dathwampeer said:Humans are killed every day. We don't make threads about Bob who got stabbed by Tim unless the reason Tim stabbed Bob is something to do with gaming paraphernalia.ShadowsofHope said:Just because animals aren't humans doesn't mean we don't have strong attachments to our domesticated pets. I have yet to see one member on this forum disregard human suffering, but still get outraged over drowning animals in a fucking river like this.dathwampeer said:You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.
Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.
You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
But we find a video about puppies being drowned and suddenly it's topic worthy.
It's something with most humans. They're more bothered about cute little fluffy bundles of innocence than they are about every other fucker around them.
It's the same distinction between other animals.
Pandas refuse to fuck each other and people drop their lively hoods and go and try and force the dumb shits to mate with each other. Honestly the amount of money that has gone to saving Pandas physically disgusts me.
Does anyone care that the Yangtze river dolphin is now extinct? Of course not. Because it lived in muddy water were no one could see it and it wasn't considered cute.
Does anyone mind that there are like 10 species of cave dwelling arachnids and insects that are probably going to become extinct in the next 10 years? Fuck no, because they're not fluffy and adorable.
People are fundamentally biased and retarded.