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Scarecrow

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dathwampeer said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
I maust say that I can see you point, but I can't really agree with you. Because I know that lots of money is being spent on saving the ugly animals. And that yes humans can be retarded, but we can do amzing things if we want too.

And if you don't think that drowning puppies are disgusting, well.....lets just leave it at that.
There isn't though. There is actually this whole issue about it at the moment. People are all too quick to give money to cute animals like seals and pandas. But relatively no one gives a fuck about cave spiders and the like. It's actually a pretty big issues some conservationists are facing at the minute.

And I didn't say someone killing puppies for no reason wasn't disgusting. In-fact I said the exact opposite. I do wish people would stop misinterpreting my posts.

But I will say this. it's no more disgusting or deranged than randomly squashing a load of spiders or killing any other animal for that matter. We attach something more to it because they appeal to our protective instincts. Being cute and helpless.

Like I say. We are fundamentally retarded and bias.

ShadowsofHope said:
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.

Thamous said:
Human's murdering humans has become commonplace it isn't considered shocking. When it comes to puppies not only is almost unheard of, its the fact that puppies have done nothing to wrong you and cannot defend themselves. It expresses a problem with you so deep and disturber that nothing anybody can ever do will fix it.
I didn't say I don't understand why. I'm just pointing out how fundamentally stupid it is.
I changed that post after I posted it because I saw that I had mucked up with it. Read what I put there insted.
 

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dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.
Ah, yes. Because showing sympathy for anything other than human beings is utterly uncalled for and revolting, yes? She was throwing baby puppies into a goddamned river, and casually at that. That is abhorrent, and so is she for doing it. Get over yourself.

And no, not everyone wants to read up on the latest murder either. We kind of like some kind of pleasantness in our daily lives, you know. Human suffering has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Domestic animals? Not nearly as long.
 

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ShadowsofHope said:
dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.
Ah, yes. Because showing sympathy for anything other than human beings is utterly uncalled for and revolting, yes? She was throwing baby puppies into a goddamned river, and casually at that. That is abhorrent, and so is she for doing it. Get over yourself.

And no, not everyone wants to read up on the latest murder either. We kind of like some kind of pleasantness in our daily lives, you know. Human suffering has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Domestic animals? Not nearly as long.
Good post shadow. I think that you are right with what you said. I was going to say somthing similler, but you got to it first and did it better. Well done!
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
Jeez, if those were cats 4Chan would be wrecking her life about now.
There already working on it, not that I would know...

Legions empathy extends to all cute animals...
 

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dathwampeer said:
You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Of course people react the same way to people who murder other people, but how often is a video showing the slow, painful, gruesome murder of a human being posted on the internet?
 

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I just posted another one of these. Don't go to it. It's a waste of time. I felt horrible.
 

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Icehearted said:
I'm a bit surprised this found it's way here. Saw the video though, the little lady just pitches those pups like it's nothing. You want the real challenge though? Google Zoltan Toepler. The man does it for a film, and he's given awards for it. I've seen it, and it's pretty rough stuff since the little guy fights the whole time, and you get to see into it's eyes as it slips away.

Our species.
As tempting as that sounds, I'm going to pass on that one.

Who gives this guy awards, serial killers?
 

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dathwampeer said:
Never said I didn't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of whining about this whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to worse things.
That's what I don't get, where on Escapist do you see people turning a blind eye to worse things?
 

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dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
dathwampeer said:
ShadowsofHope said:
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.
Ah, yes. Because showing sympathy for anything other than human beings is utterly uncalled for and revolting, yes? She was throwing baby puppies into a goddamned river, and casually at that. That is abhorrent, and so is she for doing it. Get over yourself.

And no, not everyone wants to read up on the latest murder either. We kind of like some kind of pleasantness in our daily lives, you know. Human suffering has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Domestic animals? Not nearly as long.
By your own definition that isn't simply sympathy. That priority. If we are willing to seek out stories about cruelty to to cute animals. But are unwilling to do the same for humans... Then that is prioritising their well being over ours. Or at-least highlighting out bias.
Since when did anyone seek this story out? No less than the previous article today on the Xbox Live Sex Offender was "sought out". If I see an article on either humans or animals being tortured/murdered/etc., you are damned well right I'm going to express my disdain at both. I am a Humanist, but I also care about the suffering of infant animals or animals in general to a needless and inhumane extent. Doesn't make me care about animals more than humans.

And no, I did not mean in that manner with "Animal suffering? Not nearly as long." I in-fact meant it exactly as you said, animal suffering in cultures spanning history is not as widely known as human suffering is.
 

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dathwampeer said:
Vrach said:
dathwampeer said:
It's an overreaction to threaten her with violence.

It's not our place to threaten people with violence because we're pissed off at what she did. That's why we don't lynch criminals any-more. There is such a thing as the legal system. And the most we could do is find and report her..
It is kinda funny and sad that 4chan would probably find the girl quicker then the authority.
 

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dathwampeer said:
It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?
The reason why we all care right now is because there is video. Not much hypocrisy here. Show me a video of African children being killed you would probably get the same, if not worse, reaction.
 

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dathwampeer said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
I maust say that I can see you point, but I can't really agree with you. Because I know that lots of money is being spent on saving the ugly animals. And that yes humans can be retarded, but we can do amzing things if we want too.

And if you don't think that drowning puppies are disgusting, well.....lets just leave it at that.
There isn't though. There is actually this whole issue about it at the moment. People are all too quick to give money to cute animals like seals and pandas. But relatively no one gives a fuck about cave spiders and the like. It's actually a pretty big issues some conservationists are facing at the minute.

And I didn't say someone killing puppies for no reason wasn't disgusting. In-fact I said the exact opposite. I do wish people would stop misinterpreting my posts.

But I will say this. it's no more disgusting or deranged than randomly squashing a load of spiders or killing any other animal for that matter. We attach something more to it because they appeal to our protective instincts. Being cute and helpless.

Like I say. We are fundamentally retarded and bias.

ShadowsofHope said:
Yes, because we know about this incident, and are made aware of the atrocity. I'm fairly sure the recent thread about the sex offender over Xbox Live had just as much revulsion to the topic from posters, no?

You know there is human suffering each and every day, that is without doubt. But do we personally know the extent of that suffering, to each specific case and to be aware of it in order to have such emotions be evoked by witnessing the crime? Not all the time, no. There is a difference.
Bullshit. I could look through my local papers and find something about someone being stabbed or whatever. I could google 'recent murders' and get loads of detailed hits.

We care about this story because they're puppies... That's it.

They are cute and fluffy so therfore are worthy of our pitty. And she of our disgust.

Humans... are... retarded.

Thamous said:
Human's murdering humans has become commonplace it isn't considered shocking. When it comes to puppies not only is almost unheard of, its the fact that puppies have done nothing to wrong you and cannot defend themselves. It expresses a problem with you so deep and disturber that nothing anybody can ever do will fix it.
I didn't say I don't understand why. I'm just pointing out how fundamentally stupid it is.
dathwampeer said:
Blue_vision said:
dathwampeer said:
You know what pisses me off though. Peoples overreactions.

Yes this is horrible and the woman is clearly disturbed. But I hate how people on the internet (and the escapist especially) treat animals as if they're worth more than humans.

You lot see a video like this and start acting as if this is the worst crime imaginable. Hundreds of people murder other humans everyday. But one mentally deficient individual throws a load of puppies in a river and it's 'Hunt the ***** down and burn her!'
Perhaps you've been beaten down enough, I'm too lazy to read through the rest of the responses.

But really, if you're a cruel enough person to casually dispose of puppies in the river while at least seeming to enjoy yourself, do we really want you on this earth? It's not like we're choosing between saving a puppy or a woman; here's a deranged person who just killed a bunch of puppies. You don't think that she should be punished for doing so?
Animals may not have the same value as a human life pound for pound, but they should be subject to the same morals that us humans face.
If you're too lazy to read. Don't respond.
There is a high chance of her becoming a serial killer when she grows up unless she gets some good fucking mental help.

I had to say that since you are going "OMG, STUPID HUMANS, WORST STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL TIME"
 

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dathwampeer said:
Vrach said:
dathwampeer said:
Never said I didn't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of whining about this whilst simultaneously turning a blind eye to worse things.
That's what I don't get, where on Escapist do you see people turning a blind eye to worse things?
It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?
It's not hypocrisy. Nobody is saying murder or starving refugees are good things, they are simply so commonplace that they don't elicit the same shock. When somebody see's a puppy getting thrown in a river its shocking because you never see it happen.
 

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Tdc2182 said:
dathwampeer said:
It's not just the escapist. When is the last time you saw a story about someone being killed, and it genuinely shocked you? Or when is the last time you actually thought about how much people suffer in third world countries. Or war torn countries. I don't get becoming desensitised to human suffering but still crying about a bunch of puppies drowning.

Don't get me wrong. I'm no bleeding heart. The world is a fucked up place. I just accept this and get on with my daily life. But this should apply to everything. Not just humans. Just because it's cute and whelps as it's being thrown. It shouldn't really spark any more sympathy in use than that advert of whatever his name is dying of diarrhoea in Africa.

Do you not see the hypocrisy?
The reason why we all care right now is because there is video. Not much hypocrisy here. Show me a video of African children being killed you would probably get the same, if not worse, reaction.
What he said. It really isn't hypocrisy.