Girl's Death Linked to Realistic Gun-Shaped Wii Controller

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Kurokami

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AboveUp said:
Geez... Anyone investing in that kind of WiiMote add-ons should be questioned.

If the article didn't tell me which gun was real, I would've said it was the lower one.
To be frank I thought they both were, but hell I'm no gun expert.

It is pretty ridicules, though are we really gonna blame this on the Wii controller instead of the fact that she managed to get her hands on a real gun? (unless the parents assumed it to be the Wiimote as well, though I can't imagine the weight being similar)
 

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The police have filed no charges
Your kidding me!!? What is wrong with them this is still the parents fault? Its criminal negligence at the very least!? What kind of parnet leaves a loaded unsecured weapon lying on the table with an infant in the house? This accident was completely avoidable and the mother "getting off the hook" because it looked like a wii remote is unbelieveable. And the stepfather, what he came down with a gun ready to shoot somebody but forgets to put it back in the safe and instead leaves it on a table within reach of a child? These parents are poster material for bad parents who keep guns in the house with children and yet they are scapegoating a replica wii-mote instead of stringing them up as examples. Im at a loss, I really am.
It's more probable that the county DA chose to not file charges.
These are just a few possible reasons why:

1. This family is going to have to live with a terrible reality. They are responsible for their child's death.

2. The Second Amendment is a political landmine no sane public servant wants to step on.

3. Sparing the family from criminal charges is one small mercy compared to the vengeance society is ready to visit upon them.

I agree an example should be made of them, but not by a government body. Any politician who tries to spin this incident will be accused of playing politics with a child's death. To put it another way, the NRA will argue that the politicians like it when innocent children die.

It's all one God awful mess that gets in the way of actually running the country.

I agree with you, that this is a social issue. But I don't agree that it should become a political one. The thing is, I've grown up in a neighborhood where driveby shootings are commonplace. So, I don't expect you to comprehend the need for guns.

No law could get those guns back off the streets. Gangbangers will always be a threat in my neighborhood, and I can't afford to move. So, as long as the gangbangers are out there: I'm keeping my gun; I'm keeping it within my reach, but I'm keeping it out of my child's reach.

Still, I hope your ideals become reality.

"You cannot concieve, nor can I, the appalling strangeness that is the mercy of God." ~Graham Greene
 

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CINN4M0N said:
AboveUp said:
Geez... Anyone investing in that kind of WiiMote add-ons should be questioned.

If the article didn't tell me which gun was real, I would've said it was the lower one.
Me too. Why is the real gun got wires coming out of it?
To show it is unloaded I guess. My local range requires a safety flag in the action when ou leave the shooting area.

It also looks nothing like any gun I've seen. Just going by the barrel it's like an 8-Gauge shotgun, bu the magazine is to thin to hold anything bigger than 9mm.
 

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Regardless of guns that aren't supposed to lie around, where I come from it's illegal to sell something that could be mistaken for a real gun. Now I see why.
 

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DarkLight523 said:
It's more probable that the county DA chose to not file charges.
These are just a few possible reasons why:

1. This family is going to have to live with a terrible reality. They are responsible for their child's death.

2. The Second Amendment is a political landmine no sane public servant wants to step on.

3. Sparing the family from criminal charges is one small mercy compared to the vengeance society is ready to visit upon them.

I agree an example should be made of them, but not by a government body. Any politician who tries to spin this incident will be accused of playing politics with a child's death. To put it another way, the NRA will argue that the politicians like it when innocent children die.

It's all one God awful mess that gets in the way of actually running the country.

I agree with you, that this is a social issue. But I don't agree that it should become a political one. The thing is, I've grown up in a neighborhood where driveby shootings are commonplace. So, I don't expect you to comprehend the need for guns.

No law could get those guns back off the streets. Gangbangers will always be a threat in my neighborhood, and I can't afford to move. So, as long as the gangbangers are out there: I'm keeping my gun; I'm keeping it within my reach, but I'm keeping it out of my child's reach.

Still, I hope your ideals become reality.

"You cannot concieve, nor can I, the appalling strangeness that is the mercy of God." ~Graham Greene
I understand that since I live in a country where gun deaths are minimal and almost always gang members who nobody gives a shit about I cant appreciate the fact that you may actually need a gun for home defence. I know if somebody broke into my house I would kill them for being a threat to my family if I had to so I dont disagree with giving yourself a level playing field if the burgler is likely armed. Also responsable gun ownership is great, keeping your gun away from your child like you do should be applauded. But it takes constant vigilence with a gun and a child in the house and when people like this get away with murder it makes me sick.

I wouldnt mind if society would deal with them where the law wont but thats not will happen. these people will grieve, move and probably change name or cut ties and their new neighbours may never know what monsters they are and teh next shit parent who loses his child to an accidental discharge will blame wii-motes.

I actually pity you all for the second ammendment, by all means have a gun culture if you want one, but the original ideals of the Second ammendment are gone and now its just groups like the NRA who want their penis extensions who give the culture a bad name. Citizens with guns should have them only for home defence, hunting and competitve shooting. To me those are the accepable uses and anything after that is dangerous and not worth it. Like look at the guy who brought the gun to your presidents rally because he had the right to, what good can come from that?

It sucks to be in the situation your in dude and I feel bad for you.
 

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The Austin said:
I still don't buy it.

I think that maybe, just maybe, this whole "Wii gun" thing is just a mask to hide what really happened. What if the parents purposely left the gun out, because they knew that the little girl would think it looked like the Wii toy? It could be like a Kaylee Anthony thing, where the parents just got sick of the kid.

I don't know...... Ever since I did my Freshman thesis on the JFK assassination conspiracy, I have been extremely paranoid about everything. So I am probably just over-thinking it.

[sub] No, this was not meant as some sick joke, I am just really paranoid about everything. [/sub]
As much as I would be open minded to any theory I respectfully disagree. I think the guy was just stupid. Any guy with sense would not have a gun out when a family member was in the home and just leave it around. I think that it could be quite possible that they shot her by accident considering the logistics involved with a girl shooting herself with the first bullet. I would bet the police have already examined these and when you think about the stupid risks people take with their kids this makes sense. It's a terrible shame and a senseless waste.
 

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Lim3 said:
Its America's fault for giving the public easy access to firearms.
The right to keep arms is in their constitution, the blame here lies with a parent who made a very tragic mistake. Leaving a loaded gun out when you have very young children about is is something that responsible firearm owners know not to do.
 

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AboveUp said:
Geez... Anyone investing in that kind of WiiMote add-ons should be questioned.

If the article didn't tell me which gun was real, I would've said it was the lower one.
unless your a single man living alone with no kids
 

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I still haven't gotten an answer. Do firearms need to be "armed" by pulling back a hammer, slide, or bolt? It seems like a horrible lack of a safety feature to allow the gun to just be picked up and fired without even a half second of preparation.
 

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AboveUp said:
Geez... Anyone investing in that kind of WiiMote add-ons should be questioned.

If the article didn't tell me which gun was real, I would've said it was the lower one.

I don't blame the manufacture of such things, I think the more realistic looking the gun is, the more immersive the game would become, what I think is ridiculous is the father leaving a gun lying around in the house!!!
I mean seriously?!
 

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I'm sorry don't keep trying to twist things further. A GUN WAS LEFT OUT WHERE A KID COULD REACH.


End of Story. I don't care if it was a lollypop shaped gun, it was a gun, it was out.
Parents should be ashamed.
I feel for them... I really do, but in grief don't try and pin the blame on anything else but yourself. That's a dark slippery slope that causes arguments, wars, even more grief. When something is legitimately your fault you step up and be a grown up and say...yes... I am a prat...I will now spend however long it takes atoning for that mistake. Even if that's never.

Its tough but it saves a whole bunch of 'movements' and 'political stances' that infringe on everyone elses' right to live a free life. You effed up, you deal with it.

I know many people who've had to do this...and I admire them.
 

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Austin MacKenzie said:
The police have filed no charges, but this does bring the situation into further light.
Seriously? WTF? Negligent parents get their kid killed and no charges. I guess, they have to live with the fact their own stupidity got their only child killed. Actually, that's punishment worse than anything the police could give you.
 

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aaronmcc said:
Austin MacKenzie said:
The police have filed no charges, but this does bring the situation into further light.
Seriously? WTF? Negligent parents get their kid killed and no charges. I guess, they have to live with the fact their own stupidity got their only child killed. Actually, that's punishment worse than anything the police could give you.
It's not nearly enough punishment for (indirect) murder. A slap on the wrists and they file an 'accident' report, it's nothing. They should at the very least be sterilized so that it doesn't happen again. You can argue about widespread eugenics, but you would have to agree that it's a fitting punishment/benefit to society.


Also, Do firearms need to be "armed" by pulling back a hammer, slide, or bolt? It seems like a horrible lack of a safety feature to allow the gun to just be picked up and fired without even a half second of preparation. It's a simple question.
 

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The night before, her step-father had left the gun on an end-table, having thought he heard intruders
Wait...he heard intruders so he left the gun on the table!
and the night before So he left it there overnight! What kind of a absolute fool does that!?! Especially when he has a child!
 

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Austin MacKenzie said:
The night before, her step-father had left the gun on an end-table, having thought he heard intruders. Cheyenne, mistaking the real gun for the controller, picked it up and shot herself.
Well there's your problem.

Jesus CHRIST a 3 year old is too young to know the difference between anything, a 3 year old would pick up a poisonous snake even, it is NEVER SAFE to EVER let children or infants have access to guns!

I'm not saying anyone under-18 can't be trusted to fire a gun, put obviously with constant adult supervision and only once they are in their teens and have demonstrated maturity and are well disciplined.

The police have filed no charges
WHat da FACK!

This isn't even a video-game issue, the similarity of a Wii peripheral is almost entirely irrelevant as 3 year old is practically a baby, too young to know any real self-preservation, this is almost ENTIRELY down to how:
(a) parents can be extraordinarily negligent and
(b) the law will not force them to change their ways

I can't see how the Father is not criminally negligent.
 

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AboveUp said:
Geez... Anyone investing in that kind of WiiMote add-ons should be questioned.

If the article didn't tell me which gun was real, I would've said it was the lower one.
O_O

And what would it be firing? Cannon balls?