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Laxman9292

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Platinum117 said:
How did the Pillar of Autumn find Halo if they made a 'blind' jump? Though i think it may have been explained somewhere...
It was not a "blind" jump per say. Cortana had stumbled across the coordinates from the Covenant somehow, it was explained in the books but I forgot exactly where. But anyways Cortana was curious as to what was there, and it was in a sufficiently "random" direction away from Earth that it did not really matter.
 

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Not sure if it's a plot hole, but certainly a puzzling situtation, but World of Warcraft has a rather annoying habit of creating raid bosses that we have little explaination to fight. Why are we going into the Obsidian Sanctum? Most players will just assume "Nasty Black Dragon that's gotta die" but this would be wrong.

It's all explained in outside material I can't get my hands on. Not even a quick brief in the game >.>
 

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jakefongloo said:
In Prototype if Alex Mercer isn't Alex Mercer but the virus reincarnating as Alex Mercer *cough* how does it not remember being a virus. It explains that Alex doesn't remember who he is because of the aforementioned mess. But wouldn't it know it's not Alex then?

Also in Call of duty 4 You rescue Nikoli in like mission 2 and he says "Have the American's started their attack yet?...Americans are making mistake they will never take Al Asad alive." Like he was implying he knew about the nuke. But then Captain Price admitting that the Americans don't attack for several more hours doesn't radio that golden piece of info in.
The Americans did know about the Nuke, they just didnt find it in time.

The biggest plot hole in COD 4 is,

"How the feck did the SAS get on the plane in Mile High Club? And why wait after it took off to storm the bastard?"
 

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subject_87 said:
In Half-Life 2 (or pretty much any game where rag-tag rebels overthrow an evil government) what are they going to do after overthrowing the regime? Do they have any alternative lined up? After all, evil order is better than no order at all (and yes, that is highly debatable, but this thread isn't the place for that).
If you're not willing to debate it, then don't bring up this kind of nonsense.
 

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subject_87 said:
Blue_vision said:
I'm pretty sure that the neurotoxin flooder mechanism was a total black comedy joke (i.e. it's not really a plot hole because it's not supposed to make sense.)
Okay, perhaps that was a bad example. But here's another: In Half-Life 2 (or pretty much any game where rag-tag rebels overthrow an evil government) what are they going to do after overthrowing the regime? Do they have any alternative lined up? After all, evil order is better than no order at all (and yes, that is highly debatable, but this thread isn't the place for that).
Well then they'd form some sort of government and elect some of the more prominent rebels, presumably. Not really a plot-hole.

Fr said:
anc[is]How Shepard knows about thermal clips after being dead for 2 years. They were invented while s/he was dead. Tiny one, but still there
I'm sure Miranda explains it as soon as you pick up a gun.

OT: A lot of the posts on this thread don't seem to be actual plot holes.
 

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7amurai said:
all the pokemon games. What mother would allow her twelve year old child to wander around the country side gambling over who is the best at animal abuse with complete strangers and career criminals. Where would such a sport be socially acceptable anyway. Also I find the possible motivations of a so-called professor in inviting the neighbor child over to give them a pet quite dubious. Also how can a country survive with absolutely no infrastructure or government. The list goes on...
Besides which, why does your rival usually say something along the lines of 'I lost because I didn't treat my Pokémon right? But you won because you love your Pokémon' etc... and yet I've never fed mine, left most of them trapped inside a tiny computer for literally years now, and forced them to fight for my entertainment. Yeah, I won 'cos I love those little scamps.
 

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soren7550 said:
L3m0n_L1m3 said:
*AHEM*

WHY DID SHEPHERD KILL ROACH AND GHOST?
As Shepherd said himself "That's one less loose end to finish off"

Task Force 141 did what he wanted them to do, so he no longer required their services. Also, over at the Airplane Boneyard in Afghanistan, Price and Soap found out he was a traitor and were relaying the information to Roach & Ghost (although they were too late). Shepherd didn't want to risk the chance of them either finding out his role in the shooting at Zakahav International Airport and he believed that they learned something about his involvement while they were at the Safe House.
So, the general of the US army wanted to start a war with Russia by getting one of the TF 141 members blamed for the shooting? Resulting in America being invaded?

"ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN," Shepherd chuckles to himself, as thousands of Americans are killed and the white house falls to Russians.

So what exactly was his role in the shooting, then?
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
Actually the protagonist could use the Vita-chamber because he was Ryan's illegitimate kid, and the vita-chambers were only ever calibrated to work with Ryan's DNA; That's also why none of the enemies could use them. As to, why then he would build hundreds of those things all over the city instead of just ONE in his home, is up for discussion. I mean, how many times a day did he expect to die?
Well, if you die in a hit&run driving accident, you'd want to be back fast enough to pull the guy out of his car, right?
 

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BRex21 said:
Biggest one to piss me off was Fallout 3: The Pitt DLC. So the only way to restore the steel mill is to use slave labour, then they put in a sub plot about how all the workers in this place were getting replaced by robots.
and yes the robots were operational, but you can only use them as cannon fodder for the trogs. In case you wanted to say, Well maybe these people wouldn't know, the leader of the pitt is ex Brotherhood of Steel, those guys tasked with recovering pre-war tech.
it just upset me that there was a perfect everyone wins scenario and you have to ignore it because the developers didn't think about things.
BINGO! Fallout 3 had some doozies. They finally fixed the biggie at the end though, with the option of having your helper start the device. I always wondered why I couldn't send Fawkes, a highly irradiated Super-Mutant or the radiation-proof robot RL-3 into the danger zone, thus risking no one's life and making everybody happy... And why the Enclave could target the Brotherhood's robot Liberty Prime with a pinpoint missile attack to take him out the battle, but not a much larger stationary target like, oh say the Brotherhood home base at the Pentagon?

-SNIP-
They're characters and what they say explain it TO ME, your mileage may vary.

And the enclave WAS planning to hit the citadel, god knows what they were waiting for, but they were ready to flatten the wasteland and start again
 

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feel like a dick for pointing this out but http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.161430-Largest-plot-hole-in-a-game?page=1
 

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UberNoodle said:
Kwatsu said:
In God of War, you have to get into the Temple of Pandora to find the famous box. The Temple of Pandora is on a mountain... that's tied to the back of a Titan... who's wandering in an immense desert. Just getting there involves killing murderous sirens, climbing impossible heights and defeating terrifying minotaurs to open the gates. Even Kratos finds it a challenge.

And when you get inside the Temple, in one room where you're swinging along on a rope, there's people fighting the undead all around you... and the fighters are, literally, just random, ordinary legionnaires. The kind who die if Kratos so much as yells at them.

???
It could be a plot hole but Kratos already showed that it wasn't impossible to reach the top of the mountain. That 'regular Joes' were also up there would only be a plot hole if such a possibility had been denied earlier. Those soldiers could have their own epic story. Perhaps they were airlifted in by another god, or used magic. Obviously if there is a temple to Pandora there, there must be accolytes, priests and priestesses. Perhaps those fighters were stationed at the top of the mountain.

You see, 'plot hole' has become of the most misused words by Net geekdom. It doesn't mean a plot or story point, or character action that doesn't 'make sense' (though it may make a lot of sense to somebody else, for example, the creators). It is an explicit failure in the application of the story and world's logic. It doesn't mean an information gap present because of how the narrative is constructed (for example, non-omnipotent narratives only explain what the view point characters can directly experience and discover themselves).

Back when I was a kid, I realised that Optimus Prime never used his giant laser axe again after the first episode of Transformers. That could be a plot hole, if we disregard the possibility that the axe was broken in that fight. Galvatron saying that 'autobots can't fly', after several prior episodes prior showing them able to so, is also a probable plot hole. However, Galvatron could have been lying or mistaken, or just referring to the abilities of Autobots he was with.

Many accused plot holes can be filled, and often they are. But so many people today, especially on forums like IMDB, consider them impossible to fill, simply because they noticed it. If those legionaires up at the temple of Pandora were actually from down below, and climbled their as the hero did, then it would be a good candidate for a plot hole. Yet, as shown, it is one easily filled with imagination.

This is not a 'go' at you btw. I'm just discussing with you. ;)
And it does follow the age old video game logic where you split up with your friends to clear the way. You fight through incredible odds... only to find them waiting for you when you get there.

One day someone is going to do a "One Hour Ago" mission that explains this sort of thing. Or they'll be revealed to be demons or something.
 

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Heavy Rain teems with glaring plot holes or at the very least unlikely situations and coincidences.

- During the hospital scene, Madison is told the identity of the Origami Killer. She acts shocked at hearing Shelby's name, but ... she hadn't met him yet at his point or even had any knowledge of him.

- Dear Madison. Hiding in a fridge while the building is on fire is a bad idea. Locking yourself in an airtight container with a limited air supply that is notoriously hard to open from the inside. Smart.

- How the hell does Norman Jayden hide his debilitating drug addiction? He works for the FBI, for crying out loud. Even if they don't do any drug tests, his work place is filled with people that are trained to notice things that are off.

- The police officers who went to check up on junkyard killer Mad Jack and got killed must be the most hated in the precinct. Otherwise their collegues surely would've sent out somebody to investigate the last known wherabouts of a couple of missing cops.

- during the Butterfly trial, Ethan had to crawl through narrow crawl-spaces filled with broken glass. It was already cramped for him, so how did someone of Shelby's size manage to set it up? For that matter, how does he do it without anyone noticing? Or where does he get the funds and resources from?

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Woodsey said:
subject_87 said:
Blue_vision said:
I'm pretty sure that the neurotoxin flooder mechanism was a total black comedy joke (i.e. it's not really a plot hole because it's not supposed to make sense.)
Okay, perhaps that was a bad example. But here's another: In Half-Life 2 (or pretty much any game where rag-tag rebels overthrow an evil government) what are they going to do after overthrowing the regime? Do they have any alternative lined up? After all, evil order is better than no order at all (and yes, that is highly debatable, but this thread isn't the place for that).
Well then they'd form some sort of government and elect some of the more prominent rebels, presumably. Not really a plot-hole.

Fr said:
anc[is]How Shepard knows about thermal clips after being dead for 2 years. They were invented while s/he was dead. Tiny one, but still there
I'm sure Miranda explains it as soon as you pick up a gun.

OT: A lot of the posts on this thread don't seem to be actual plot holes.
It's become more of an 'it just bugs me' thread... and I always assumed there would have been some explanation/fiddling about with the thermal clips, it's just not in the game because it'd be boring as hell and break the flow.
 

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Blue_vision said:
Playing Just Cause 2 right now (which might not be supposed to make that much sense either,) I'd really like to wonder what Panay wants to do after nuking some of the biggest world powers.
Dude...


...if you're playing Just Cause 2 for the STORY, you're doing it wrong.
 

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BIGGEST PLOT HOLE: How do the Ghosts come back to life in Pac Man?

Seriously, I've been waiting for this answer for 20 years now. I've constantly emailed, mailed, called, followed, left subtle notes, left overt notes, cut into their phone conversations, and stalked the creators for the past 20 years trying to find out how this happens. They never even touch on it, they just reappear as if we're supposed to just completely suspend our disbelief. Which would be fine the first time, but this just keep s happening, there's no way to avoid it. It left me severely disappointed with the game overall, but at the same time, this controversy so entranced me that I couldn't help playing it as much as possible. So much, in fact, that the rest of my life has had to suffer. I've lost my wife, my kids are alienated, my old neighborhood considered my behavior a threat to the moral values of their children, so I had to leave. Except I could not purchase a new home or rent a new apartment because, besides all my funds going to my Pac Man research hedge fund and losing my job, after maxing out my credit cards to continue to have access to electricity and the internet, I had such bad credit that nobody would let me come within five miles of a prospective home for fear of "the credit taint". In fact, I'm writing this post from a public library terminal to share this gaping plot hole with the world while I'm on the run from debt collectors. Oh no, they've found me! But I still have a captcha to fill out, hopefully I'll have the ti-
 

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WHY THE SEEKER DRONE
The... what?

WHY THE CERBERUS AFFILIATION
Umm... because they had the resources, they had the Lazarus Project, and they had TIM wanting to fight the Collectors and the Reapers. Have you played Mass Effect 2?

WHY THE SPACE BABY
Space baby? What? Care to clarify?

WHY THE LAWFUL STUPID
The hell are you talking about?

WHY THE QUARIAN IMMUNE SYSTEM RETCON
There was no retcon. The quarian immune system has always worked the same.

WHY THE CONTINUED TERRORIST CONTACT
I assume you mean Cerberus? Shepard maintains contact with them because they're giving out free information, equipment, and money. We've previously established that you've never actually played Mass Effect 2, so I'll tell you this: after you beat the last boss, you're basically given the option to tell The Illusive Man to piss off, severing all ties to Cerberus.

WHY THE HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP
I don't know what you're referencing. Cerberus?

WHY THE TINY SKILL TREE
This isn't even... ugh. You know what, never mind.

WHY THE UNFROZEN ASHLEY
What does this even mean? When was Ashley frozen?

Because you're retarded? You are exactly the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to post in Plot Hole threads.
 

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Well, mine's kind of a plot hole. Why didn't they just make Assassins Creed 2 end at the time period of the Pope's actual death, instead of forcing there to be Assassins Creed Brotherhood?

EDIT: Ok, a better plot hole like quesiton would be why Ezio decides later that he's actually going to kill the Pope?
 

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soren7550 said:
L3m0n_L1m3 said:
*AHEM*

WHY DID SHEPHERD KILL ROACH AND GHOST?
As Shepherd said himself "That's one less loose end to finish off"

Task Force 141 did what he wanted them to do, so he no longer required their services. Also, over at the Airplane Boneyard in Afghanistan, Price and Soap found out he was a traitor and were relaying the information to Roach & Ghost (although they were too late). Shepherd didn't want to risk the chance of them either finding out his role in the shooting at Zakahav International Airport and he believed that they learned something about his involvement while they were at the Safe House.

Now, for me, it's two words: Black Ops.
Need I say more?
Where the only plot holes in Blops really only the guns?