Glaring plot holes in games
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Oh, after you have exposed Loghain then. You do make a good point. They could have simply rounded up volunteers from the military and have them undergo the Joining. The best excuse, I suppose, is that they didn't have much time due to the Archdemon and darkspawn rising.fleacythesheep said:Riordan has it, that's how he can offers to do the joining.Avalanche91 said:This actually gets adressed at some pointfleacythesheep said:(they also need the blood of a archdemon for their super happy luck juice. They lost that when Loghain marked the Grey Wardens as traitors)
In Dragon Age awakening, you actually get to make more Grey Wardens
Riordan has the blood and offers to do the joining after you have won the landsmeet, so you are in control with the support of the people at that point. Yes you would lose some people to the joining, but you would lose a lot more lives if the last few remaining wardens died and no one there could finish the job untill reinforcments came.Devias- said:
Wait, did they need Archdemon blood or darkspawn blood for the joining? It was the latter, wasn't it?
Heavy Rain, clock store, no way that chick wouldn't have heard you kill that guy, music box is not that loud.
Heavy Rain, Shaun would have died from hypothermia in the first day.
Answer to why the Reaper in ME2, well the Reapers make a few new Reapers out of every society they destroy. Why they do this? No clue. Maybe to immortalize the species?
Heavy Rain, Shaun would have died from hypothermia in the first day.
Answer to why the Reaper in ME2, well the Reapers make a few new Reapers out of every society they destroy. Why they do this? No clue. Maybe to immortalize the species?
well... i actually understood that as making them get the hard drive as to make them look like they were stealing it from terrorists to do some terroring of their own,and he getting there to kill them and "rescue", its all about "who is the good guy" and "the immage" he was trying to mantain, as the hero of the world, that last bit was to make them the bad guysFrozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
so he makes it seem that they were the next group of terrorists, in the ending they do say something in the line of "they will be hunting for you now" implying the US was going to blame them for the terrorist attack.
Where does Dr. Eggman/Robotnik find time to build his badniks and stages full of traps, especially between Sonic 3 and 4, which aren't really spaced out by a period of a few years? If he really did it all by himself, wouldn't that constant work (including chasing down penguins and bunnies to shove into his robots) help him lose weight? Why include rings in the stages? I don't think they're a natural occurring item, but if they are couldn't he snatch them up as he's placing motobugs around?
Actually, I just replayed the game and made it to the point where you meet Riordan. It appears that you need a vial of darkspawn blood and a drop of archdemon blood for the Joining. An acceptable excuse, and perhaps the reason that refutes this plot hole, is that they only had a single drop of archdemon blood.fleacythesheep said:Riordan has it, that's how he can offers to do the joining.Avalanche91 said:This actually gets adressed at some pointfleacythesheep said:(they also need the blood of a archdemon for their super happy luck juice. They lost that when Loghain marked the Grey Wardens as traitors)
In Dragon Age awakening, you actually get to make more Grey Wardens
Riordan has the blood and offers to do the joining after you have won the landsmeet, so you are in control with the support of the people at that point. Yes you would lose some people to the joining, but you would lose a lot more lives if the last few remaining wardens died and no one there could finish the job untill reinforcments came.Devias- said:
I was wondering about that for quite a while after completing the game multiple times but then read somewhere that it was going to be part of Heavy Rain 2.WorldCritic said:
Thought i believe it was answered, I'm with youL3m0n_L1m3 said:
Also, is Soap and Price alive?
These are not plot holes. That isn't a hole in the plot.starfox444 said:
Just because someone does an action you wouldn't have done, doesn't make it a plot hole. "OMG, she had peanut butter but no jelly on her toast! PLOT HOLE".
In real life, people do REALLY STUPID things to impress women. Bam, Chrono trigger down. Heck, you have to realize further that that was a magical world, the concept of such a device wasn't nearly as foreign compared to the status quo.
The much more common 'if I resurrect 2 or 3 party members per fight, why is it a tragedy the king dies?' is more of a plot hole, and even then is a narrative vs story hole, as opposed to a narrative vs narrative hole, which is a lot more blatant.
Where did you here there wzs going to be a Heavy Rain 2? Last I heard the developers weren't intending to make a sequel.Phoenixlight said:
Heavy Rain had a plot hole that ruined the game for me.
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The detective who ended up being the origami killer is shown NOT killing the shop owner, then they "reveal" that he did beat the shop owner to death. Seriously WTF game.
Well even if he only had enough to join one more person that could still make 33% more wardens XD But this might not be the case, cause you have some on you already. Remember the pendant(Wardens Oath) that Alister gives you after the joining? He says it contains some of the joining mixture. Personally I think this is a failsafe so that every warden can join at least one more if they have been told how to.Devias- said:Actually, I just replayed the game and made it to the point where you meet Riordan. It appears that you need a vial of darkspawn blood and a drop of archdemon blood for the Joining. An acceptable excuse, and perhaps the reason that refutes this plot hole, is that they only had a single drop of archdemon blood.fleacythesheep said:Riordan has it, that's how he can offers to do the joining.Avalanche91 said:This actually gets adressed at some pointfleacythesheep said:(they also need the blood of a archdemon for their super happy luck juice. They lost that when Loghain marked the Grey Wardens as traitors)
In Dragon Age awakening, you actually get to make more Grey Wardens
Riordan has the blood and offers to do the joining after you have won the landsmeet, so you are in control with the support of the people at that point. Yes you would lose some people to the joining, but you would lose a lot more lives if the last few remaining wardens died and no one there could finish the job untill reinforcments came.Devias- said:
I have one. Or eight, actually, regarding MW2.
Before anyone cries 'ARTISTIC LICENSE' as a blanket response to these, first understand that if you're willing to use that excuse on these, then how is it that a piddly little drop off a waterfall leaves you so winded that a single, aging, behind-the-lines general who just survived an exploding helicopter is capable of putting up any sort of fight against someone who just got done gunning down a hundred people?
In MW2, your one squad overhears on a radio located in the Oval Office (which survived an EMP burst) that DC is about to get bombed to shit and they need to put up some signal flares to avoid imminent destruction.
1. If a high-altitude EMP weapon was used effectively to knock out electronics in DC, where were these bombers located that they were both unaffected by the blast and capable of responding to the bombing call within the timeframe presented in the game? Keep in mind that an EMP weapon detonated over North Dakota in this manner would be able to knock out electronics in Texas.
2. Why do signal flares similarly appear on other buildings within the area, when it was stated that the only functional radio in the area were the ones in the White House?
3. Why did Russia attempting a direct land invasion of America not trigger any sort of immediate nuclear response?
4. How did Russian soldiers manage to land soldiers on the east coast to invade DC? Have they already conquered their way across everything west of there, or have they managed to sneak ships past all of Europe?
5. How was one man capable of launching a nuclear missile? STOP a launch, yes, because most modern nuclear-capable platforms are designed so that one person can stop the launch specifically to AVOID having a single rogue agent launch a nuclear weapon.
6. How does a general with major psychological problems retain their position of authority withing the American military structure?
7. How does the nuke help things? If there's a large scale land war in the continental united states, wouldn't there already be a surplus of volunteers offering to join the military, if not roving bands of armed citizen militias who skipped directly to the 'killing communists' part?
8. Why would ANY halfway intelligent weapons designer invent an anti-personnel landmine THAT CAN BE AVOIDED BY DUCKING?
8b. WHY IN THE BLAZING HELL WOULD ANYONE ACTUALLY USE IT?
1. If a high-altitude EMP weapon was used effectively to knock out electronics in DC, where were these bombers located that they were both unaffected by the blast and capable of responding to the bombing call within the timeframe presented in the game? Keep in mind that an EMP weapon detonated over North Dakota in this manner would be able to knock out electronics in Texas.
2. Why do signal flares similarly appear on other buildings within the area, when it was stated that the only functional radio in the area were the ones in the White House?
3. Why did Russia attempting a direct land invasion of America not trigger any sort of immediate nuclear response?
4. How did Russian soldiers manage to land soldiers on the east coast to invade DC? Have they already conquered their way across everything west of there, or have they managed to sneak ships past all of Europe?
5. How was one man capable of launching a nuclear missile? STOP a launch, yes, because most modern nuclear-capable platforms are designed so that one person can stop the launch specifically to AVOID having a single rogue agent launch a nuclear weapon.
6. How does a general with major psychological problems retain their position of authority withing the American military structure?
7. How does the nuke help things? If there's a large scale land war in the continental united states, wouldn't there already be a surplus of volunteers offering to join the military, if not roving bands of armed citizen militias who skipped directly to the 'killing communists' part?
8. Why would ANY halfway intelligent weapons designer invent an anti-personnel landmine THAT CAN BE AVOIDED BY DUCKING?
8b. WHY IN THE BLAZING HELL WOULD ANYONE ACTUALLY USE IT?
Before anyone cries 'ARTISTIC LICENSE' as a blanket response to these, first understand that if you're willing to use that excuse on these, then how is it that a piddly little drop off a waterfall leaves you so winded that a single, aging, behind-the-lines general who just survived an exploding helicopter is capable of putting up any sort of fight against someone who just got done gunning down a hundred people?
I think it was on the game's official forums, a few people were talking about it and someone said that it would likely be explained in the next game.WorldCritic said:
I can awnser that.WorldCritic said:
You see origionally the plan was that Ethen was somehow psychicly linked to the killers mind and experiencing an abstract form of what the killer was doing at the time.
In fact he has nightmares during these blackouts that were origionaly playable, they decided however that they didn't want any supernatural elements in Heavy rain so they cut them late in developmnt, which left rather obvious plot holes.
Personally I think that rather than remove them they should have simply changed the reasoning an timing of them, make it so Ethen was having the nightmares based on what he saw about the killers exploits as some weird form of survivors guilt, rather than a psychic deal.
In fact he has nightmares during these blackouts that were origionaly playable, they decided however that they didn't want any supernatural elements in Heavy rain so they cut them late in developmnt, which left rather obvious plot holes.
Personally I think that rather than remove them they should have simply changed the reasoning an timing of them, make it so Ethen was having the nightmares based on what he saw about the killers exploits as some weird form of survivors guilt, rather than a psychic deal.