Good books and what makes a good book?

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ffxfriek

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So, for American Literature I am reading "The Great Gatsby". This is a "good" book. Don't get me wrong I have just started reading it but I have not found what makes it a classic. Now other books like Of Mice and Men I have read. It was a fairly good book and yet again another one of these "good" books...an all time classic. A literature masterpiece. So my question for you my fellow escapees is: What is a good book and what makes a book a good book?
 

The Grue

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That is indeed a good question. What makes a good book good? The Grue shall ponder...

1) Has to be captivating, needs you to want to keep turning the pages.

2) Creativity.

3) Believable characters with depth.

4) A good storyline.

Speaking of captivation, the Grue realizes it's getting much too late. The Grue shall retire for the night.

edit: The Grue forgot a key point:

5) CONSISTENCY!
 

Figgis Fiddis

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Ender's Game. Absolutely sublime.

The thing that books can do better than any other form of media is to express characters. Movies, for example, rely on good acting to make their characters, well, act like they would in a real life situation. Bad casting can be a major problem in some movies. However, in books, the "acting" of characters is defined partly by the author's vision and partly by yourself filling in the cracks.
 

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It comes back to the usual stock answer of 'personal taste'. Lets face it, Citizen Kane gets held up as the number one classic film of all time, becuase of it's style, but it's really fucking dull. Books are the same, I read The Way of All Flesh some years ago, in an effort to broaden my horizons and found it to be as dull as fuck. More recently I've read The Book Thief, which, while certainly well written, wasn't the emotional wallop I thought it to be. On the other hand, The Shadows of The Wind I've read three times and it guts me everytime. Currently reading C.J. Sansom Shardlake books and they definately deserve classic status.
 

sequio

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"Where the Red Fern Grows" is a good book imo. Had to read it in in class in 6th grade. Almost everyone was crying lol. But i think you have to be relatively young to appreciate it. I knew a few people who read it in their late teens/early 20's and thought it was stupid.

EDIT: Not sure what made it a good book. I think the attachment to the protagonist. I didn't think The Yearling was sad at all. I remember thinking "Yeah, you deserve that you stupid deer."
 

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Ive recently read two books by Kenneth Oppel "Airborne" and "Skyreaker"
I loved those 2 books.

I also really liked Enders Game when i read it a long time ago.

A book just has to fit whatever you like in order for it to be good for you.
 

Pseudonym2

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The story has to "mean more than it means" as Nail Gaiman would word it.

The Grue said:
1) Has to be captivating, needs you to want to keep turning the pages.

2) Creativity.

3) Believable characters with depth.

4) A good storyline.

Speaking of captivation, the Grue realizes it's getting much too late. The Grue shall retire for the night.

edit: The Grue forgot a key point:

5) CONSISTENCY!
Moby Dick had all of those but is considered a classic it's about a lot more than whaling.

Raymond Chandler has a lot those but doesn't have the same thematic depth, which is why his work is loved by a cult following but isn't considered to be one of literary greats.
 

ffxfriek

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sequio said:
"Where the Red Fern Grows" is a good book imo. Had to read it in in class in 6th grade. Almost everyone was crying lol. But i think you have to be relatively young to appreciate it. I knew a few people who read it in their late teens/early 20's and thought it was stupid.

EDIT: Not sure what made it a good book. I think the attachment to the protagonist. I didn't think The Yearling was sad at all. I remember thinking "Yeah, you deserve that you stupid deer."
where the red fern grows was amazing. Also quite sad though.

more good books would be the wizard of earthsea series
 

SamuraiAndPig

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I think it all comes down to personal taste. Moby Dick is a classic but good lord I hated it. Same with Scarlett Letter and A Seperate Peace - hated them as much as I hate asparagus and I really hate asparagus.

I think there's a difference between good books and enduring books. There's plenty of good books but very few ones that people my age will be telling our grandkids about. For example (another book I hate) my dad used to read me parts of Call of the Wild as a bedtime story. That was written before he was born and had already gone in and out of fame, but still endure.

Enduring books are ones that really capture human nature and show it for what it is. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
 

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Ender's Game was abolutely one of the best books I've ever read. I quite literally couldn't put it down. I've read it about ten times since then and it only gets better.
 

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My guess is that these old "Classic" books were excellent at their time of release. But like many other industries Movies and Video Games. Everybody copied what made these books so great that there are almost commonplace now. But that's just my guess since I haven't read the book.

But as for what makes a good book, is probably something that captivates your imagination and that you just cant put it down until its over.
 

Lazzi

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ExplosionProofTaco said:
Paper, Cardboard, Ink and words make a good book.

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AntiCumbistiveTacitos here is the only one that seems to have it correct. Nothing actully MAKES a good book, the only thing that makes a good book is luck.

Besides GOOD is a subjective term, one persons "riviting" is some one elses "meh". All that really matters is that you are enjoying the book that you are reading.




As for books I like i would have to say The Secret Fan, Snow Fox, and Wicked are my all time favorites.
 

SkinnySlim

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Well, a good book has to transcend the time period it was written in. If the book speaks to themes that anyone can relate to, and builds a compelling story around those themes, it's on the right path. May I suggest:

On the Road
The Left Hand of Darkness
Slaughterhouse Five

Enders Game is a damn fine book as well...
 

Frizzle

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I think what makes a good book, depends on what you're looking for. I've read many books, and I've enjoyed a bunch of different ones for different reasons.

Name of the Wind - ungodly awesome. Can't wait for part two. Reading that book put you there in the story. At times I could actually picture myself sitting there at the table with Kvothe while he told the story. It had me mezmorized.

Odd Thomas - Another narrative told in the 1st person. He made you identify with his problems, and feel them like he did. When something bad happened to him, you felt truely sorry. I almost cried at the end of this one.

Crooked Little Vein - Just read this one recently. Had nothing to do with my life, nor related to anything that had ever happened to me. God willing, it never will lol. But the story was just so entertaining to read. I couldn't wait to see what crazyness the character was going to have to go through next.

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Funny. Entertaining. Didn't have to think too much. It was like watching a movie, I honestly just enjoyed reading the words he put down. No emotional involvement at all.

All of these books, in my opinion, were awesome for different reasons. There's no one thing that makes a book good. Some of the classics are very good reads. Some of them make me want to cut my wrists with the pages. I think your mood, how you're feeling at the time, and what kind of person you are makes for a book being good or bad.
 

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