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masterchevyman

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So i have decided that being a nice guy has no benifit in the real world, being a yessir man at work doesnt help and being really nice to women has me permanatly stuck as friends it sucks
 

JanatUrlich

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That's just an excuse that people make for why they're not getting laid.

The fact is that most 'nice guys' are just too much of a pussy to ask girls out and push for what they want. That doesn't make you a nice guy, it makes you a coward.
 

Eliam_Dar

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Well, I disagree, being a good guy has nothing to do with being stuck at the "friend zone". I have been a good guy all my life and my love life is going pretty well. The real problem is not saying what you feel at the rigth momment. That's what leads to being in "the friend zone"
 

Celtic_Kerr

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Being an asshole gets you no where dude... Men say that because they're TOO nice... But nice people do not finish last and have all the benefits. No offense dude, but get over it
 

Capt. Crankypants

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Stick at it chum. I'm a really nice guy and I've got it good. Your problem must be something else. Also, you can take charge of things without being a jerk, give it a shot. Attaboy.
 

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masterchevyman said:
So i have decided that being a nice guy has no benifit in the real world, being a yessir man at work doesnt help and being really nice to women has me permanatly stuck as friends it sucks
Don't give up. Sometimes it may not seem rewarding at all, but try to retain your moral integrity all the same. It's nice being able to sleep at night, you know.

Also, stop being a doormat. Being a good guy does not mean having to be a 'yessir man'.
 

GuideBot

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I think the 'nice guy' stereotype is probably not the best way to achieve one's goals, sure, but I get everything I want as directly and efficiently as possible and I still come across as a nice guy (-probably because I want to). I guess my point is, just because the 'nice guy' sterotype isn't working out for you, don't necessarily overcompensate and become a complete dick.

Cheesy advice: Just be honest with yourself.
 

Rarhnor

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The only advice, besides "be yourself and be happy about it", is:

Buy a sword.
Go nuts.
Enjoy your killingspree.
 

XJ-0461

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So... we're gonna discuss that? Cuz that's what these threads are for; discussion. If you want to make a statement like that change your Facebbok status, get a blog or hell, make a Youtube video.

Next time, check the forum guidlines before you make a thread.
 

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Unfortunately, it can be true. I'm a nice guy, it has done me no favours with women, I'll tell you that much (being kinda ugly and a doofus doesn't help either). But, dammit, that's who I am, I'm not going to turn into some arsehole just to make the world treat me differently. I couldn't live with myself.
 

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Yeah I know the person that don't disurve it get's it and the one that disurve it don't get it it's so unfair But I have no morality or anything so I'm the person that disurve it but never get it and it's LOVELY! Whith disurving it I mean get a punch in the face or some other kind of punishment
 

Meemaimoh

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Niceness has NOTHING to do with it. Being a doormat, on the other hand, has everything to do with it. Girls will take a confident jackass over a nice doormat most of the time, but they'll take a nice, confident guy over everything, any day of the week (unless they have daddy issues or something).

One of the biggest turnoffs, incidentally, is guys saying that nice guys finish last. Being brutally honest: it makes them look whiny and pathetic, and frankly makes them no fun to be around.
 

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If a woman doesn't like you as you are, then she's not worth your time. Find someone who's appreciate you properly, in the long run it will work out much better!
 

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GuideBot said:
Cheesy advice: Just be honest with yourself.
There you have it, OP, all the advice you'll ever need to be happy with your life. Speaking strictly about your issue, though, it applies heavily. Not only does it make your more attractive (honesty with yourself tends to breed confidence, and confidence is attractive), but getting into a relationship based on a facade is never a good idea, because you're going to hit some very heavy chop when one or both of you gets tired of keeping up the charade of being someone completely different around their significant other. That whole "I'll pretend to be someone else, and then reveal myself when they finally love me so that they'll still accept me" thing isn't romantic, it's dishonest, and your significant other will feel betrayed and hurt that you not only lied to them, but didn't trust them enough to be vulnerable around them.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
That's just an excuse that people make for why they're not getting laid.

The fact is that most 'nice guys' are just too much of a pussy to ask girls out and push for what they want. That doesn't make you a nice guy, it makes you a coward.
Although he could kind of lean back of the agressivness a bit, I have to agree. There is a difference between being nice and being passive. I used to always finish last, until I became a bit more assertive. Not agressive, assertive. Straight forward more, but in a polite way.
 

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Well I'm pretty sure being a jerk won't get you anywhere with girls or with your job. It's just that jerks tend to have more confidence than your typical nice guy, that's what gets them places.