if you read the novel. it's in there. they left a lot out of the novel and they changed the ending. the movie was good. the book was better. o nd the scene in bill and ted's excellent adventure where they hug and immediately back up suprised, and both go "fag"
I know--I read the book-- but I don't think Jackie Earl Haley delivered the line very well. It seems to me that Rorshach would deliver a threat like that in a very calm and quiet tone of voice, as opposed to what happened in the movie.
Mine's also Oldboy, only with the action scenes. I feel like they're trying to paint him as this tragic figure, but also make him a god whenever he's fighting... You can't have it both ways!
Why not? The entire point of the extremity of the violence was that revenge is all Dae-su has left, and he intends to get it by means of violence. I'd argue that that's pretty tragic.
The fact that Woo-jin was able to destroy him so completely without being violent just serves to highlight how pointless all of Dae-su's fighting ultimately was. Training his body, the only useful thing he could do during his imprisonment, was a waste of time.
On topic: the sex scene in Watchmen. Good gravy, that scene was ridiculous.
Hmm. Never looked at it like that. But it's not the fact there are fight scenes, it's how over the top they are. One that comes to mind is the on in the corridor after he tortures the warden. Actually, that's the only one that comes to mind. It was just all to much for me. One man taking down 50? Really?
Frankly, I loved that fight scene, but I can see what you mean. I like it partly for what it tells you about Dae-su, but mostly for the fact that it was a choreographed fight sequence which was filmed in a single take. That is a stunning accomplishment, in my opinion.
Well as a fight scene it was really good, it just didn't fit in well with the rest of the movie to me. All the other ones seemed at least a little plausible.
I can see your point; what happens in the scene, and the way it's filmed, are very different from anything else that happens in the film. For me, though, the scene that felt the most out of place was Mido's hallucination/ vision of the giant ant on the train. I get that it's telling us that she's extremely lonely as well, but I really don't think it fitted in with the rest of the film.
That seen was a little weird, but I always thought it was because
of Mido's hypnosis
. I think it fit in with someone of the film's blacker humor though, kind of like the pause when Dae-su had the hammer drawing a dotted line to the baddie's head or when Dae-su thought about something that someone said. I guess it was something to break up the movie so it wasn't so serious all the time.
That part in Watchmen where Rorshach unloads on that convict with the frier. I just think the way he delivered his line after that was narmy, for lack of a better word.
Well, that movie had its shortcomings, but the change at the end was for the best (and, more importantly, fixed a few "wait a minute" issues with the ending). Changing the "enemy" from a massive, psychic alien race to Dr. Manhattan filled quite a few gaps in the story.
Plus, a lot had to be cut out simply due to length and they did a damn good job of it.
My personal cringe: Any scene in Iron Man 2 with Justin Hammer, especially when his mouth moves, and even more so when words come out of it...
In my opinion, basically every zombie movie ive seen has something to do with an experiment or something related to the dead rising from the grave. Doesn't really make me cringe unless it's bad enough.
If we're talking moments like, "Oh man, did he really just say that?", then I would nominate Star Wars: Attack of The Clones for all of the "romantic" dialogue between Anakin and Padme.
In my opinion, basically every zombie movie ive seen has something to do with an experiment or something related to the dead rising from the grave. Doesn't really make me cringe unless it's bad enough.
It's usually the 'science' they try to describe it with that makes me cringe. I don't mind if it's voodoo scat that bring the dead back to life to jazz again, but when they try and use science... it ends up sounding farcical.
"I'd love to tell you that Andy fought the good fight and the Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that.
But life in prison isn't any fairy tale."
I'm gonna have to go with the Dark Knight as well. Only my cringe inducing scene is almost any time Bale is fucking talking as batman. Not only is it the overly done raspy voice, it's the way his face mask pushes on his nose so he has to breath out his mouth. So whenever he's not talking he just stands their with his mouth open like an idiot. It's very noticeable in his last scene with The Joker.
I always kinda hope that Nolan pulls a Lucas and goes back, CG's Bale's face in that damned mask and fixes his voice. It's too good of a movie to have such a silly aspect.
Yeah, I'm not even American and I got a overly-patriotic vibe from that scene. And when I saw the post, the first thing I thought of was actually the little speech at the end of Dark Knight. You know, the one that was made to send a little tingle down your spine when he said "A Dark Knight". It just seemed so cheesy to me, especially as he was talking to a small child. I keep imagining the kid going "...daddy, what the fuck are you on?" after he finishes.
Ahaha. You know I really dug the ending, but I never thought of it like that. Definitely puts it in a funny light, Gordon's whole speech is just so damned esoteric and his kids like what? Seven?
The comment about patriotism was linked to the "I suggest you buy American." It seemed an unnecessary thing to say that came off (to me at least) as pointless patriotism. I get that it was also a slight dig at things being "made in China" but still, are American gunsmiths well known for crafting perfectly functioning carbon fibre firearms that can pass through metal detectors??
Different people will view scenes in different ways though, I don't expect everyone to agree with me and there are a few people out there who probably have that down as their favourite scene for the reasons I dislike it.
Azure-Supernova said:
It's usually the 'science' they try to describe it with that makes me cringe. I don't mind if it's voodoo scat that bring the dead back to life to jazz again, but when they try and use science... it ends up sounding farcical.
Yeah, things like the zombie apocalypse should never "explained" with actual "science". Partly because it makes scientist everywhere hang themselves and partly because it takes away the fear factor to a degree. Having terrible things happen around you and having no idea why is scarier than knowing it's just a virus or something. I know the danger level is the same but an unknowable terror is always scarier than one with a rational explanation.
Can't think of any Movies atm, but in countless TV programmes where they have a solid core cast with good actors (e.g. CSI:NY (although the puns are AWFUL)) and then it all falls apart when they need an extra for one episode and grab a crap actor.
Having said that, Spiderman 3 was the worst thing I ever saw
King Kong - Every scene with Adrian Brody in it. He's an okay actor and I loved him in The Pianist, but in King Kong he was such a fifth wheel. Also, every scene between Jimmy and Mr. Hayes. Did we really need another subplot for this movie?
The Incredibles - The prologue at the track field. I just hated that whole cozy happy family bullshit.
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