GTA V for PC Petition

[Laughing Man]

How dare people want a game that's a part of a series they enjoy to be released on their platform of choice. How dare they want their $60 games to work as advertised, rather than having bugs littered throughout. How dare they want the game to run on their hardware, when it easily runs on less powerful hardware.

Really, did you even think this through?

Did you? If the port of GTA4 was as bad as PC gamers try to make it, if Rockstar had abandoned the game and released no patches then your stupidly under thought comment would be valid. Shame that the PC version of GTA4, the version I own alongside my PS3 version plays better, looks better and is overall a better game to play than the PS3 version and what's more it was cheaper.

My post was a subtle stab at the pathetic PC gamers who will moan about any old shit in a port then ***** and moan some more when the developer they were beating on 3 years ago isn't chomping at the bit to announce that they will be porting their latest console title.

Next time you want to ask if someone has 'thought' about their post perhaps it would be better to stop and think about weather or not you had applied any thought first?

 

[Something Amyss]

To be fair, if GTAV on PC is the same quality as IV or Dark Souls, anyone who plays games has every right to complain.

People always have the right to complain. However, after begging and browbeating for a port, it was pretty dumb to complain about Dark Souls not being what people wanted.

 

[hazabaza1]

To be fair, if GTAV on PC is the same quality as IV or Dark Souls, anyone who plays games has every right to complain.

People always have the right to complain. However, after begging and browbeating for a port, it was pretty dumb to complain about Dark Souls not being what people wanted.

What they wanted, and what is expected is a game that is at least function.
For Dark Souls to be functional on PC (btw, this coming from someone who fucking loves Dark Souls) you need at least 1, possibly several community made edits, probably some alternate control method, like a gamepad, and a somewhat up to date PC seeing as there's no graphics settings that even matter performance wise.

 

[black_knight1337]

If the port of GTA4 was as bad as PC gamers try to make it

Did you play GTA4 on pc without patches? That had awful performance. I was lucky to get 10fps.... on minimum.... with lowered res. And this was a machine that ended up running Skyrim a bit under high at 1600x900 and at 40+ fps. So yeah, that port was pretty damn terrible.

if Rockstar had abandoned the game and released no patches

Yeah, sure, they eventually got their shit together and fixed it. That was months after release. So yeah, you can't blame us for being pissed that they gave us an awful port in the first place. They should of just delayed the release and made sure it would actually work first.

On a somewhat related point, Rockstar abandoned a tonne of pc gamers with LA Noire. There is a bug in it where if you have a nvidia based gpu the game can literally just not work, at all. Did Rockstar try to fix this? Nope, they just threw the blame on Nvidia and just kept saying that their next set of drivers might fix it.

OT: They'll end up releasing a pc version. Whether or not it will actually work, well that's the question we should be asking.

 

[Something Amyss]

How dare people want a game that's a part of a series they enjoy to be released on their platform of choice. How dare they want their $60 games to work as advertised, rather than having bugs littered throughout. How dare they want the game to run on their hardware, when it easily runs on less powerful hardware.

Really, did you even think this through?

Maybe if they thought things through, they wouldn't have the persistent problem of running out to buy shitty ports then complaining about them.

 

[Something Amyss]

What they wanted, and what is expected is a game that is at least function.

The drama queening was part of the problem.

For Dark Souls to be functional on PC (btw, this coming from someone who fucking loves Dark Souls) you need at least 1, possibly several community made edits, probably some alternate control method, like a gamepad, and a somewhat up to date PC seeing as there's no graphics settings that even matter performance wise.

So for a game designed around a controller, you needed a controller?

Let me alert the presses. And while we're at it, I bet those bastards at Harmonix expect you to have a microphone to sing along with their games!

The community edits stuff is hyperbole. People were playing it fine without them. PC gamers are just so spoiled they write anything below 60 FPS unplayable. People complained it was inferior to the PS3 version, which was false. People complained that it didn't meet their expectations, when their expectations were ridiculous.

They begged for the game. They threw a tantrum every single step of the way. Then they got it and they threw another tantrum. Surprise.

And you know what? It sold phenomenally anyway.

Sometimes you don't get what you want, but you usually get what you deserve. And Dark Souls is more or less why PC gamers get shitty ports.

GTAV will sell phenomenally, too. Even if it runs at 5 FPS, doesn't support fullscreen mode, and requires two gamepads, a VR headset, and a spiked chastity belt. Spiked inward, for the record.

If you're a PC gamer, allow me to ask you why you do this to yourself. Not just Dark Souls, but let's start there. Why beg and scream for a game intended for filthy console peasants, then complain it plays like a console game? Why did so many people buy GTAV at launch? Why does anyone expect different from what they get when they engender that EXACT system?

 

[distortedreality]

I still can't get GTA IV working properly. I have no confidence in Rockstar's ability to make PC games.

I'd honestly say that's more than likely a problem on your end than on the developers. I had GTA IV working day one out of the box on my old rig (from memory a mid range C2D and a 8800GTX), and it's only gotten better since.

The GTA IV release was messy, but nowhere near as bad as people make out. I do hope they do a better job this time around though, just so my favorite forums aren't littered with "omg rockstar failed", and we can actually talk about the game.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

All we'll get is a poorly optimized console port that's covered in the turd that is GFWL (ala Dark Souls) and I'll probably not buy it due to whose exact same reasons (again like Dark Souls), but what the hell I'll sign the petition anyway.

Who knows the PC version might actually be playable!

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Because if it worked for Dark Souls, it damm well has to work with Rockstar, right?

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rockstar-release-gta-v-on-pc

Also, after signing, sign in this thread to bump it up for people to see (and maybe get it on the front page and get more signatures!!)

Calm down its going to happen. It always happens, just takes a while. Rockstar pushes people to buy their games to console, but its usually released to PC in a year or so.

 

[hazabaza1]

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Just to clear things up, I've got a PC, 360, and recently a PS3. Not really a fan of that "exclusivity loyalty" stuff.

The reason I call it unplayable is because is was literally the console version on the PC. Control symbols and the like were always Xbox buttons, even if you had no controller plugged in.

Resolution choices were fucked unless you edit it.

Moving the mouse controlled like someone was flicking the right analog stick to move it.

The menu button was 'insert'. Fucking Insert. Who the shit uses insert as a fucking menu thing? Seriously, try that, imagine you're in a tense situation and you want to change something quickly, like you want to equip a firebomb on your quick slot, try pressing insert and navigating through the menu.

It ran better than the console versions but it was still a really bad port runs really shitty, especially because you can't, I dunno, turn down the texture settings or something like that. That'd be fucking dumb.

The problem wasn't that a gamepad was optimal. The problem was that a gamepad was needed unless you edit the game files or rebind the entire game, which by the way, has no guarantee of working.

Expectations were not ridiculous. Expectations were to get a game that could be installed, and played comfortably in full screen and with their chosen control method without having to download anything.
What they got was shit. Pure shit.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Because if it worked for Dark Souls, it damm well has to work with Rockstar, right?

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rockstar-release-gta-v-on-pc

Also, after signing, sign in this thread to bump it up for people to see (and maybe get it on the front page and get more signatures!!)

Calm down its going to happen. It always happens, just takes a while. Rockstar pushes people to buy their games to console, but its usually released to PC in a year or so.

You mean like Red Dead Redemption? They didn't release RDR on PC because it sold well enough on the consoles. L.A. Noire didn't so they made the PC version. Max Payne 3 fanbase is mostly made out of PC gamers, so they knew they had to release it on PC.
And since GTA IV sold so well on consoles, and they know GTA V will sell even better, they may not feel the need to release GTA V on the PC. Especially after so many troubles they had with PC version of GTA IV.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I could have sworn the last pres release said it was in the cards but not confirmed. There's no reason for GTAV to NOT be on the PC after all. Honestly though I'd rather petition for a Wii U version. Yeah, I said it.

 

[DrunkOnEstus]

Well, seeing as DMA released 1 and 2 as PC exclusives before the PS1 ports, and 3, Vice City, San Andreas, and IV were all released on the computer, it would be pretty shitty to be unable to play V (And I have all those installed right now, I'd love to have an even more complete GTA collection).

This PC vs. Console thing is driving me crazy by the way. I don't know how it ends up in every discussion simply about the existence of the PC or a game on it, but it's incredibly immature. I and many others who are PC gamers also own a console or two because We love video games first and foremost. If it helps avoid it in the future, I don't see how it's elitist or a personal attack on your character to declare the provable knowledge that the hardware in consoles was almost top of the line about 8 years ago. It simply was, and it simply has been that long. That seems to be a focal point for these things lately.

EDIT: I read over my post, and I realized some sad facts about the GTA line on PC. PC got Gears of War 1 but not 2 or 3, Halo 1 and 2 but not 3 onward, and so on. I know those didn't start on PC, but I realized that it's naive to think that a company cares about leaving a platform hanging with an unfinished series that's finished elsewhere.

 

[distortedreality]

Because if it worked for Dark Souls, it damm well has to work with Rockstar, right?

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rockstar-release-gta-v-on-pc

Also, after signing, sign in this thread to bump it up for people to see (and maybe get it on the front page and get more signatures!!)

Calm down its going to happen. It always happens, just takes a while. Rockstar pushes people to buy their games to console, but its usually released to PC in a year or so.

You mean like Red Dead Redemption? They didn't release RDR on PC because it sold well enough on the consoles. L.A. Noire didn't so they made the PC version. Max Payne 3 fanbase is mostly made out of PC gamers, so they knew they had to release it on PC.
And since GTA IV sold so well on consoles, and they know GTA V will sell even better, they may not feel the need to release GTA V on the PC. Especially after so many troubles they had with PC version of GTA IV.

You're comparing a series that was born, and continues to be massively popular, on the PC to two new IPs'? Talk about apples and oranges.

You sort of contradicted yourself there as well.

RDR - sold well enough, didn't see PC release because of this.
LA Noire - didn't sell well enough, saw PC release because of this.
GTA IV - biggest selling media release at that point, saw release because of this.

Wait......what?

Bottom line is, Rockstar would lose more of their fanbase if they didn't release GTA V on PC at all than they would if they released a sub-optimal version on PC 12 months down the track. They know it, we know it.

edit -

Honestly though I'd rather petition for a Wii U version. Yeah, I said it.

I'd totally sign that.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

If you're a PC gamer, allow me to ask you why you do this to yourself.

Probably for the same reason PS3 owners keep buying Bethesda games.

 

[razor343]

Signed. I really don't want GTA to break away from its roots here on the ol' PC.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Because if it worked for Dark Souls, it damm well has to work with Rockstar, right?

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rockstar-release-gta-v-on-pc

Also, after signing, sign in this thread to bump it up for people to see (and maybe get it on the front page and get more signatures!!)

Calm down its going to happen. It always happens, just takes a while. Rockstar pushes people to buy their games to console, but its usually released to PC in a year or so.

You mean like Red Dead Redemption? They didn't release RDR on PC because it sold well enough on the consoles. L.A. Noire didn't so they made the PC version. Max Payne 3 fanbase is mostly made out of PC gamers, so they knew they had to release it on PC.
And since GTA IV sold so well on consoles, and they know GTA V will sell even better, they may not feel the need to release GTA V on the PC. Especially after so many troubles they had with PC version of GTA IV.

You're comparing a series that was born, and continues to be massively popular, on the PC to two new IPs'? Talk about apples and oranges.

You sort of contradicted yourself there as well.

RDR - sold well enough, didn't see PC release because of this.
LA Noire - didn't sell well enough, saw PC release because of this.
GTA IV - biggest selling media release at that point, saw release because of this.

Wait......what?

Bottom line is, Rockstar would lose more of their fanbase if they didn't release GTA V on PC at all than they would if they released a sub-optimal version on PC 12 months down the track. They know it, we know it.

edit -

Honestly though I'd rather petition for a Wii U version. Yeah, I said it.

I'd totally sign that.

Yeah I don't understand why they didn't port RDR. I always buy PC because of the modification capabilities. GTA especially is a modders paradise. In Vice City I was playing online VS matches with custom cars like Ferris, Deloreans, n stuff. GTA is just too much fun not to be released on PC.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

You sort of contradicted yourself there as well.

No I didn't. GTA IV was released before RDR. They didn't know how many copies they can sell on PC. And the port was a disaster. It probably didn't sell as well as they'd hoped, and it's a brand that PC gamers love. Then they made RDR. They probably looked at the sale numbers of GTA IV on PC and thought that RDR couldn't outsell it on PC. And with all the troubles they had with IV on PC, it's no wonder they didn't bother releasing RDR. On top of that they were working on Max Payne 3 which was planned for PC from the start.

 

[distortedreality]

You sort of contradicted yourself there as well.

No I didn't. GTA IV was released before RDR. They didn't know how many copies they can sell on PC. And the port was a disaster. It probably didn't sell as well as they'd hoped, and it's a brand that PC gamers love. Then they made RDR. They probably looked at the sale numbers of GTA IV on PC and thought that RDR couldn't outsell it on PC. And with all the troubles they had with IV on PC, it's no wonder they didn't bother releasing RDR. On top of that they were working on Max Payne 3 which was planned for PC from the start.

Wow. I knew Adam Jensen was awesome, I didn't know he was a mind reader though.

So, your opinion is that when a game sells well on one platform, there's no need to release it on another, and when a game doesn't sell well on one platform, it's well worth the time and effort to port it to another platform?

I would of thought taking the IP in question into account would be a worthwhile exercise when making these sorts of decisions, but according to you it doesn't seem to be.