Guild rule: no hurt feelings

[Gralian]

If you want an anarchic guild where people can sling insults and talk trash all day long, i think you need to look for one that specifically states it has absolutely no leadership and responsibility. Basically, a WoW version of 4chan. I'm sure there are at least one or two guilds out there that fit that criteria. However, the majority of which will certainly not. That shouldn't be a surprise. No-one wants to pay £8 a month to get slagged off during their leisure time, especially when they most likely have to deal with people who do slag them off during work or study hours.

That's incredibly closed-minded of you. You don't think out of 10 MILLION people there isn't a guild's worth on any server that like being in an environment where they can feel comfortable taking jabs at each other?

You think you're nice but it's not nice acting like you speak for everyone.

If your intention is to have a guild where people can say whatever they like to whoever they like, regardless of whether it could be offensive to that person or not, the guild is denying responsibility of maintaining an environment acceptable to the majority.

And that's the key word i want to highlight here. The majority. I don't speak for everyone, but i believe having an environment free of blunt, rude and occasionally abusive individuals is what the majority desires. And i'm afraid it's the majority that matter.

Like i said, i'm sure there are guilds out there that cater to people who just have no sense of tact and want to say whatever they like without consequence while also being on the receiving end of it. That's fine. I get that. But those are guilds who state that outright and everyone adheres to that principle. Don't go wading into other people's guilds expecting them to bend to your wishes.

 

[hotsauceman]

Seriously OP, what's your definition of 'good-natured ribbing?'

The dictionary's. Failing that, the farthest I go is either calling someone autistic, aspie, etc., or lightly engaging in one of our McCarthyish "ism"s. For example, if someone was genuinely hurt by me making fun of their class, I'd refer to them as a "weeping vagina".

That is going too far man. I would say things like "Healing is as easy as banging your head against the wall" Thats funny. Calling something a "Weeping vagina" Isnt. Thats no ribbing thats just being a jerk.

 

[BoredDragon]

Some people can be overly sensitive on things which makes the world a worse place. While there are limits to what should be said, there should be enough room for everyone to joke around and everyone be ok with it. If those guys can't take a joke then they were probably not cool to begin with.

Spoiler: hmmm, I need something funny to balance out the seriousness of the first half of my post...

 

[Stublore]

Simple, join the guild, agree to the rules and then say:
"This rule:if you make someone feel bad, makes me feel bad".
XD

 

[Rawne1980]

Harassment is taken seriously by blizzard and is punishable by having ~number of hours or days banned.

Sorry, I read that and spluttered coffee on my monitor.

Blizzard take it seriously?

There is a guild on a realm I used to play on that goes out of it's way to upset/grief/annoy as many people as it can and the most "serious" punishment Blizzard has managed to dole out is an ingame mail to one of them asking them to please refrain from doing it again.

In 2 years thats 1 mail.

Taken very seriously indeed.

To be fair I very rarely hear of anyone being punished for anything apart from the odd forum ban if it goes way too far. Even thats very, very rare (unless you talk about another game then your chances for a ban rise a bit).

The only thing Blizzard take seriously is that weekly dive in the vault of gold they keep.

 

[ErythorbicAcid]

I gotta buddy who is really into WoW, and he's a really cool guy. Known him for over 10 years now. The only problem is that he's an asshole. Not really, he just says asshole things. He hasn't been able to stay in a guild for longer than a year. It's from the same thing, good natured ribbing. He just isn't aware that he's a prick.

And as someone who knows more than a few people who are autistic, don't call yourself autistic. You probably just come off like a jerk unintentionally.

 

[Vrach]

What are your thoughts on such a policy?

Right on. If you wanna rip on other people, make sure they're ok with it. If you do it anyway despite realising you're being annoying, you're... well, I just said it, you're being annoying - which is reason enough to kick your arse as far as I'm concerned.

Don't get me wrong. With most of my friends (both RL and online ones, especially the latter), we rip on each other for various things. But we also know where the line is and what's ok and what's not ok to mess with. Some people are fully open for ripping about pretty much anything. Some on the other hand are sensitive as hell. Personally I'm somewhere in between leaning more towards the former, but everyone's entitled to enjoying their free time and no one should get in the way of that.

 

[sleepykid]

Why are people assigning me motives I've never claimed? It's ridiculous to think I expect to say things "without consequence". Everything you do, particularly in the social realm, has a consequence. How can people think I'm mean enough to dish out flak, yet naive enough to not expect anything in return?

Also, not to engage in horn-tooting, but I'm probably the nicest guy you're likely to meet on the server. (Nesingwary, if anyone's curious) Always there to help out with group quests, will totally make your enchanting rod if you need one at no charge, patient with the newbies, etc. It takes genuine effort to earn my ire.

 

[Gralian]

Harassment is taken seriously by blizzard and is punishable by having ~number of hours or days banned.

Sorry, I read that and spluttered coffee on my monitor.

Blizzard take it seriously?

There is a guild on a realm I used to play on that goes out of it's way to upset/grief/annoy as many people as it can and the most "serious" punishment Blizzard has managed to dole out is an ingame mail to one of them asking them to please refrain from doing it again.

In 2 years thats 1 mail.

Taken very seriously indeed.

To be fair I very rarely hear of anyone being punished for anything apart from the odd forum ban if it goes way too far. Even thats very, very rare (unless you talk about another game then your chances for a ban rise a bit).

The only thing Blizzard take seriously is that weekly dive in the vault of gold they keep.

I'm not sure if there's a difference between EU and US server management, but as an EU player on an RP server i've known folks who got a 72 hour ban for calling someone the 'N' word in general chat, and again for calling someone else a *****. Perhaps there's just harsher regulation on RP servers and i've grown used to it. Though they don't care about RP itself, i will admit i've never really seen them take action against lolboys who try to crash people's experiences. They only take action if the offending individual was racist / sexist / prejudist / excessive profanity, that sort of thing, not for disrupting one's experience.

 

[nicksdrago0]

Look for the smaller guilds: Im one of our guilds core tanks in a group of about 15 members (alts not included) and we always rib each other. Its a nice close knit guild, and getting in is less about being a top end contributior, but rather just fitting in.

On the subject of general touchiness, some people just get offended more easily than others, and whilst a few wont be affected by the lack of such a rule, no one is at all if its in place. Tis the safe way of making a guild work on a social level, but not a rewarding one.

 

[Rorigon]

Not sure how one would enforce that rule, but here's my opinion: like just about anything else in life, it all depends upon the atmosphere and what kind of behavior would make people feel uncomfortable or distract them.

Some will find that your humor is abrasive and kick you, others will think you fit right in. Find a guild that works for you and deal with the fact that not everyone will love you.

 

[Lunar Shadow]

A bad rule is something like "NO Strong Swearing" and then proceded to use an ill defined atandard as to what strong swearing is. Obviosuly the 7 are out, but I got bumped down from an officer rank to a newbie rank because I used the term prick. This, in my mind, is not strong swearing.

 

[Rawne1980]

I'm not sure if there's a difference between EU and US server management, but as an EU player on an RP server i've known folks who got a 72 hour ban for calling someone the 'N' word in general chat, and again for calling someone else a *****. Perhaps there's just harsher regulation on RP servers and i've grown used to it. Though they don't care about RP itself, i will admit i've never really seen them take action against lolboys who try to crash people's experiences. They only take action if the offending individual was racist / sexist / prejudist / excessive profanity, that sort of thing, not for disrupting one's experience.

I was on an EU realm, an RP one aswell the Sha'tar.

Guild was Crime Time on Horde side. Basically they were a collection of morons.

Although to be fair I got a reputation on the realm forum for mocking people and folk loved it. Didn't get in trouble once although I did do it in an amusing way so it wasn't considered abuse.

 

[hotsauceman]

Harassment is taken seriously by blizzard and is punishable by having ~number of hours or days banned.

Sorry, I read that and spluttered coffee on my monitor.

Blizzard take it seriously?

There is a guild on a realm I used to play on that goes out of it's way to upset/grief/annoy as many people as it can and the most "serious" punishment Blizzard has managed to dole out is an ingame mail to one of them asking them to please refrain from doing it again.

In 2 years thats 1 mail.

Taken very seriously indeed.

To be fair I very rarely hear of anyone being punished for anything apart from the odd forum ban if it goes way too far. Even thats very, very rare (unless you talk about another game then your chances for a ban rise a bit).

The only thing Blizzard take seriously is that weekly dive in the vault of gold they keep.

Yes they do. People just never report it because they dont think it will get fixed.

 

[Fearzone]

Fail.

Peoples reactions cannot be predicted or controlled.

 

[kinapuffar]

Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones? When did that stop being relevant?
They're just words, grow the fuck up.

 

[Erana]

Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones? When did that stop being relevant?
They're just words, grow the fuck up.

Well, it stops being relevant when you're talking about an organization within a construct of leisure. They don't have to tolerate people being jerks, they can just kick them right out, without repercussions.

The same "Grow the fuck up" notion could be expected of the people who think they should have the privilege to be rude.

 

[The Naked Emperor]

On the one hand, trying to guard everyone's feelings is stupid. People will get offended. There will be conflict. Sometimes bluntness works best for resolving it. Bluntness, however, is not calling someone autistic. If it was my guild you'd be out on your ass the first time you'd say something like that. It's stupid, unnecessary, and makes you look like a total asshole.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

If you don't have thick skin, then you have no business being on the internet. Making fun of each other is how my friends and I show that we care about each other. It's when you're ignored that you should feel bad, not when you're the butt of all the jokes.