I play guitar hero a lot; if my brother didn't go on other games it would be all I played. I also play real guitar and I think the reason I play guitar hero is it just lives out my childhood fantasies of beating the devil in a guitar solo for my soul. Man whenever someone says that I feel warm and fuzzy inside. Seriously though it is a good escape for playing the guitar parts, which in a lot of songs aren?t very good, but on guitar hero they are. For example I had to learn cult of personality on guitar and it was dull to play (once I had the hang of it. There was nothing I could do to it and it didn't feel as good as say hitting a million hammer and pull off notes on guitar hero. Plus it's a very good social game which if you see the success of the wii, you can see family games are popular
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I never actually cared for regular old guitar hero. It was good for a laugh with friends, but the raw amount of practice it would take to get good at expert seemed kinda pointless when I could instead spend that time practicing one of my real instruments. I'm self-teaching myself bass and play a variety of different instruments (played Clarinet for 6 years before ditching it for the all mighty artillery line that is the bass section).
Rock Band's drums though I'm really enjoying though. I've never been all that coordinated at managing my hands and feet seperately and so never really gave real drumming an honest try. The more I play RB2 the more I'm loosening up and gaining that coordination. I'm feeling more confident about purchasing a real drum set and learning it now that I know I'm not a hopeless wreck coordination wise.
Rock Band's drums though I'm really enjoying though. I've never been all that coordinated at managing my hands and feet seperately and so never really gave real drumming an honest try. The more I play RB2 the more I'm loosening up and gaining that coordination. I'm feeling more confident about purchasing a real drum set and learning it now that I know I'm not a hopeless wreck coordination wise.
My answer to the idiots who claim superiority just because they play a real guitar: would you tell an FPS fan to "put the toys away, go use a real gun"? How 'bout telling a GTA player to "go steal a real car"?
I play Guitar Hero because it's fun and I like listening to music. I'm pretty useless at real guitar (better at bass, but still not great) but then I don't consider the two things related. For what it's worth, I owned a real guitar and bass long before I got into Guitar Hero. It would take a certain type of idiot to think that playing Guitar Hero is the same as playing guitar for real, and that type of idiot is best ignored.
I play Guitar Hero because it's fun and I like listening to music. I'm pretty useless at real guitar (better at bass, but still not great) but then I don't consider the two things related. For what it's worth, I owned a real guitar and bass long before I got into Guitar Hero. It would take a certain type of idiot to think that playing Guitar Hero is the same as playing guitar for real, and that type of idiot is best ignored.
My fiance is a professional guitarist and can play 98% of the songs of Guitar Hero on expert but would rather play them on a real guitar. I have tried to play both the game and a real guitar and suck at both...I am a singer because I can't play which is why I would rather play Rock Band.
1. No, I can not play a Guitar in Real Life.BonsaiK said:
2. Playing Guitar Hero does not make me want to learn how to play a Real Guitar in any way. This is because as a whole, learning how to play a Guitar in addition to finding willing people to teach me/play with me is an incredible investment for something I should have started doing when I was in grade school.
I would like to say that I do not appreciate your condescending tone. It's quite rude. I play Guitar Hero because I find it to be incredibly fun to play, alone or with friends/family. It doesn't annoy anyone in my house or neighborhood. And when I put away my Plastic Guitar I think to myself "Well, that was fun."
It doesn't go further.
I have no secret desire to play awesome solos and impress people because I don't need to. It's a game that allows me to simulate something that most people will never do. I'm glad you have the patience and dedication to learn the real thing and perform, but I don't see how it gives you the right to think less of people who don't.
I don't see or read any condescending tone in the original post good sir. He was simply saying "ok so, the people whoa re good at GH may be good at real guitars, so are you interested? and do you?"Flipscore said:
Either you got up on the wrong side of the bed, or you need to re-read his post. I am completely stumped as to where you got condescending from.
I'm a bassist and guitarist, among a few other things, and I find Guitar Hero and Rock Band to fun. I like it particularly because sometimes I can't find people to play w/ and playing by myself can sometimes get boring. So single player on either game is enjoyable for a quick thrill. And multiplayer is fun because a lot of my friends can't play intruments, so it's a way to us to jam w/o them investing too many hours in something they find interesting but not worthy of their social time.
I understand exactly what you mean, though. I had the same attitude when GH first came out.
I understand exactly what you mean, though. I had the same attitude when GH first came out.
I don't consider Guitar Hero/Rock Band a guitar simulator. It's just a game with a guitar theme. So I can play the actual guitar well enough to make really good entertainment at parties, AND I play Guitar Hero/Rock Band on expert. Knowing guitar made it a bit harder at first (for instance, I'd always do hammer-ons like I would on a real guitar: holding down the Green fret while hammering on the red, for sintace. Now I just push the buttons in sequence; it's not realistic, but it's easier), but it helped with others (namely, the GH chords that Green-Yellow-Blue or Red-Blue-Orange). The finger position for those is practically the same as if you were playing 5th chords
Also, it's a great way to vent my frustration on a song. If I Just. Can't. Do. That solo on the guitar, I'll go play it in Guitar Hero and have some fun with it.
Oh, and I love how I can play any song I want with the game's bass, drums, keyboards and vocals, and I just play the guitar over the track.
Also, it's a great way to vent my frustration on a song. If I Just. Can't. Do. That solo on the guitar, I'll go play it in Guitar Hero and have some fun with it.
Oh, and I love how I can play any song I want with the game's bass, drums, keyboards and vocals, and I just play the guitar over the track.
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Your first quote on me
--You do realize I was talking about how I went to guitar after guitar hero was less challenging to me, and the fact the I thought it got boring? If not I suggest you re-read the sentence =p
Ive been playing actual guitar for about two years so this is nowhere the recent discovery of my instrument.
Your second quote on me
--Ok, Ima get this straight to you. Guitar Hero Was My First Rhythm Game, It taught me basics of beat, and If you honestly haven't played guitar hero that much, you have no right to contradict my opinion on how I think the hammer-ons on there helped me =p
Well I play GH at the highest difficulty, but I don't have any dillusions of grandeur, or fantasise about being in front of an audience etc. Its just a game that I seriously enjoy, and the fact that I enjoy it makes me want to play it more. I obviously get better because of this.
I've had a bit of a fiddle with real guitar but I've yet to put any real effort into it just yet. Perhaps I need to find some more motivation from somewhere.
I also think, though I'm not implying this of the OP as he/she seems to be asking a sensible and reasonable set of questions, that many of the real players who look down on people who play GH have a very elitist viewpoint. Its like telling somebody that is good at COD that they should join to army. Some people, in my view, just need to get out of their own way and enjoy a fun series of games. Of course if you don't then you don't but that can be said of any game right?
I've had a bit of a fiddle with real guitar but I've yet to put any real effort into it just yet. Perhaps I need to find some more motivation from somewhere.
I also think, though I'm not implying this of the OP as he/she seems to be asking a sensible and reasonable set of questions, that many of the real players who look down on people who play GH have a very elitist viewpoint. Its like telling somebody that is good at COD that they should join to army. Some people, in my view, just need to get out of their own way and enjoy a fun series of games. Of course if you don't then you don't but that can be said of any game right?
I play both guitar and Guitar Hero/Rock Band. I'm pretty good at both. I can play "The day that never comes" by Metallica on both guitar and guitar hero on expert (yes, including the solo). I enjoy doing both very much. What most of you don't understand is that some people don't see Guitar Hero or Rock Band as "imitations". At least I don't. I don't even compare them at all. Guitar Hero is a video game, that's all it is to me. And being a gamer, and Guitar Hero being a challenge, I enjoy doing it. That's all.
See, this is what I really don't get about Guitar Hero/Rock Band. DDR came first, but did you see people talking about "why don't you learn how to actually dance" when it came to the upper level difficulties? When Konami's precursors (Guitar Freak/Drum Mania) came out (albeit not in the Western world), people didn't talk about it either. So why Guitar Hero/Rock Band?
I've played the piano since I was 4 years old, and the violin for a bit shorter time, so I definitely have roots in music. But I don't think this argument makes any sense at all. Games are supposed to be a simulation of alternate realities and possibilities, so why does the music genre of games get so much flak? Pretending to be a rock star isn't any different than pretending to be a stalwart hero in an RPG or a powerful ninja in a fighting game. Granted, there are idiots that take this too far, but there are idiots that play every sort of game (called fanboys -_-).
As for the people that say "Why not learn the actual instrument?": keep your egos in check and think for a moment. One thing requires dedication to practice, a somewhat expensive instrument (and lessons), and is a solo endeavor. You either perform for a person/people, or play by yourself. The other is somewhat easy to pick up, relatively cheap, and can be play both socially and competitively. Playing a musical instrument is a socially marketable skill, but playing a game is/can be fun for all involved. By making these comparisons, you're stigmatizing gamers just like you've heard a million times before. "Why don't you ______ instead of playing games?" That sound familiar?
I've played the piano since I was 4 years old, and the violin for a bit shorter time, so I definitely have roots in music. But I don't think this argument makes any sense at all. Games are supposed to be a simulation of alternate realities and possibilities, so why does the music genre of games get so much flak? Pretending to be a rock star isn't any different than pretending to be a stalwart hero in an RPG or a powerful ninja in a fighting game. Granted, there are idiots that take this too far, but there are idiots that play every sort of game (called fanboys -_-).
As for the people that say "Why not learn the actual instrument?": keep your egos in check and think for a moment. One thing requires dedication to practice, a somewhat expensive instrument (and lessons), and is a solo endeavor. You either perform for a person/people, or play by yourself. The other is somewhat easy to pick up, relatively cheap, and can be play both socially and competitively. Playing a musical instrument is a socially marketable skill, but playing a game is/can be fun for all involved. By making these comparisons, you're stigmatizing gamers just like you've heard a million times before. "Why don't you ______ instead of playing games?" That sound familiar?
I didn't see how I was being condescending at all, I think you're reading between the lines at something that just isn't there in my OP. I actually thought that my three questions were quite matter-of-fact and direct. Just interested in your opinions. In fact it's probably one of my most benevolent posts ever, yet I still manage to unintentionally offend folks...Flipscore said:
I think its a great idea that was until recently poorly implemented. As a guitarist myself I first tried the original Guitar Hero around a friends house. I found it far too unrealistic and fiddley. I also couldn't play on anything less than expert difficulty, as a musician it didn't feel right to be missing notes.
I tried II and III and found they had the same problems. GH III was making it far too hard on expert, so I still couldn't bring myself to play it.
I eventually played GH World Tour and was so impressed with the programming that I went out and bought it. It's the only one to actually feel like you are playing guitar and has made me finally like the game.
It is great to see it encouraging people to pick up a real guitar as it really is just that much better.
And to all those who proclaim a god like status after playing GH and 100%ing every song...
I laugh at thee. Try playing with a controller that has 24 buttons and uses 6 pluck bars... Lets see you brag now.
I tried II and III and found they had the same problems. GH III was making it far too hard on expert, so I still couldn't bring myself to play it.
I eventually played GH World Tour and was so impressed with the programming that I went out and bought it. It's the only one to actually feel like you are playing guitar and has made me finally like the game.
It is great to see it encouraging people to pick up a real guitar as it really is just that much better.
And to all those who proclaim a god like status after playing GH and 100%ing every song...
I laugh at thee. Try playing with a controller that has 24 buttons and uses 6 pluck bars... Lets see you brag now.