Gun nuts (Common mistakes)

[theloneassassin]

So I was reading a book and it said he shot it with a .22 Caliber and yet it did not say what so I assumed it could be a pistol to an assault rifle. Caliber is diameter and I hate when people misuse it. Any of you hate certain peoples misconceptions or guns and if so which ones.

 

[SckizoBoy]

That guns don't kill people, people do.

Seriously, though, it's just misuse of terminology that annoys me (more of a gun historian than a gun nut), so when I heard some twit say 'smoothbore rifle' with regard to modern tank guns, you'll understand why I went borderline apoplectic.

 

[Mazza35]

Pretty much the way guns are used in movies.
1) I find it hard to find a movie where they ACTUALLY reload (You fired like 30 shots from your pistol, I only know pistols that have 20 round clips)
2) When they shot cars with a pistol and or rifle, and it explodes in a huge fireball! (Don't get me started on fireballs)

 

[Hussmann54]

That guns don't kill people, people do.

Seriously, though, it's just misuse of terminology that annoys me (more of a gun historian than a gun nut), so when I heard some twit say 'smoothbore rifle' with regard to modern tank guns, you'll understand why I went borderline apoplectic.

Oh have mercy on the poor soul. did he survive?

But fo cereal: Most of what hollywood says.
Also the idea that most video games promote that shotguns have no effectiveness at any range greater than 20 feet.

And the almost reckless abandon with which people use sniper rifles in video games and many movies. For example, Smokin Aces (a movie which I love) in the scene when Georgias partner goes bezerk with a 50 cal. because you know, kick back doesnt affect the trajectory of the next shot at all

Basically, what im saying is you couldnt place that many shots in that small an area with that rapid of succession without having the gun nailed down or something (which im pretty sure didnt happen in the movie, correct me if im wrong though.) you would have to take the time to re-align each shot, which didnt happen.

 

[Katana314]

I find it ridiculous how often media characters break the gun safety laws. I only used a gun in one week in my life, and even I know the basics.

Grimm: Here's the gun, Sam. Just point it at the right people.
Sam: Oh, I will....(immediately swings it, facing her head for a solid second before leaving)

1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.

Mafia 2, when Joe accidentally shoots a barkeep

2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. (To be fair, Joe was drunk)

etc etc

Also, there's the misconception that you can shoot someone in the leg or something to avoid killing them. Your leg has plenty of arteries and nerves too, and people can potentially have crippling life-changing injuries or even die from a .22 shot to the leg. It's less common, sure, but the end rule: A gun is a weapon you only use if you intend to KILL your target.

Then there's the ignorance of penetration (ie, no one can really take cover during an indoor firefight) but things would be much less exciting without that so I let it slide.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Well to be fair, most people assume a repeater rifle when they here the term .22, especially the Marlin Model 60, hell, its what I think of when someone says .22.

OT: Pretty much the laundry list of things people who play Call of Duty but never use real weapons think. Namely that you can fire full auto with any semblance of accuracy with anything.

 

[theloneassassin]

Well to be fair, most people assume a repeater rifle when they here the term .22, especially the Marlin Model 60, hell, its what I think of when someone says .22.

OT: Pretty much the laundry list of things people who play Call of Duty but never use real weapons think. Namely that you can fire full auto with any semblance of accuracy with anything.

xD Lol burst fire people BURST FIRE

 

[theloneassassin]

I find it ridiculous how often media characters break the gun safety laws. I only used a gun in one week in my life, and even I know the basics.

Grimm: Here's the gun, Sam. Just point it at the right people.
Sam: Oh, I will....(immediately swings it, facing her head for a solid second before leaving)

1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.

Mafia 2, when Joe accidentally shoots a barkeep

2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. (To be fair, Joe was drunk)

etc etc

Also, there's the misconception that you can shoot someone in the leg or something to avoid killing them. Your leg has plenty of arteries and nerves too, and people can potentially have crippling life-changing injuries or even die from a .22 shot to the leg. It's less common, sure, but the end rule: A gun is a weapon you only use if you intend to KILL your target.

Then there's the ignorance of penetration (ie, no one can really take cover during an indoor firefight) but things would be much less exciting without that so I let it slide.

Yeah, unless you are a sniper with a trigger that requires a certain amount of force. You partially pull on it so when you do fire you don't jerk as much.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Then there's the ignorance of penetration (ie, no one can really take cover during an indoor firefight) but things would be much less exciting without that so I let it slide.

This^^^

I freaking hate it when in a movie or a game the main character hides behind an overturned table, or a couch, and suddenly they're completely safe. Most bullets will have absolutely no problem going through a few bricks, or a tree trunk, or even a concrete barrier, so those 2 inches of wood the table is made of aren't going to stop ANYTHING.

 

[theloneassassin]

Then there's the ignorance of penetration (ie, no one can really take cover during an indoor firefight) but things would be much less exciting without that so I let it slide.

This^^^

I freaking hate it when in a movie or a game the main character hides behind an overturned table, or a couch, and suddenly they're completely safe. Most bullets will have absolutely no problem going through a few bricks, or a tree trunk, or even a concrete barrier, so those 2 inches of wood the table is made of aren't going to stop ANYTHING.

Hey, it may stop thrown rocks or knifes in case there is a caveman around!

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

OT: Pretty much the laundry list of things people who play Call of Duty but never use real weapons think. Namely that you can fire full auto with any semblance of accuracy with anything.

I don't know, I think if the call of duty games do one thing right it's showing that firing full auto at any kind of long range isn't going to hit crap.

 

[TwistedEllipses]

Then there's the ignorance of penetration (ie, no one can really take cover during an indoor firefight) but things would be much less exciting without that so I let it slide.

Car doors are particular offender, that is if the car doesn't explode (like they don't in real life).

The most basic mistake I've seen movies make could be so simply corrected. It's when the film-makers don't count the shots fired, so they fire more bullets than possible or worse, the actors are never shown reloading...

 

[AgentNein]

Being totally not a gun nut, it still always annoys me (in movies) when people cock back a hammer before they shoot someone (usually the intent seems to be to add a bit of tension to the scene). Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't modern day guns cock the hammer themselves? Which is why after that initial shot they're not cocking back the hammer with every subsequent?

Also, normal guns having the power to lift people off the ground and knock them back. I'm not a gun nut, I just understand basic physics.

 

[emeraldrafael]

That the gun makes you all powerful, and that no once can possibly fight back or hurt you with you holding one.

it seems to give off an undeserved sense of security and smugness.

 

[theloneassassin]

Being totally not a gun nut, it still always annoys me (in movies) when people cock back a hammer before they shoot someone (usually the intent seems to be to add a bit of tension to the scene). Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't modern day guns cock the hammer themselves? Which is why after that initial shot they're not cocking back the hammer with every subsequent?

Also, normal guns having the power to lift people off the ground and knock them back. I'm not a gun nut, I just understand basic physics.

Yeah, cocking back the hammer is not needed for modern pistols because when you pull back on it to chamber the round it automatically cocks the hammer, and usually the pistol is all ready to shoot as soon as you pull it out and pop the safety off.

 

[keve4433]

Pretty much the way guns are used in movies.
1) I find it hard to find a movie where they ACTUALLY reload (You fired like 30 shots from your pistol, I only know pistols that have 20 round clips)

Damn ninjas!

I get really sick of hearing how people...oh what's the phrase..."So totally quick scope IRL!" Yep that's the one! You can't even fathom the amount of rage I feel when I hear that...

That or when people pronounce the names of guns wrong. It's not a mosey naagant dammit!

 

[Worgen]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

 

[theloneassassin]

Pretty much the way guns are used in movies.
1) I find it hard to find a movie where they ACTUALLY reload (You fired like 30 shots from your pistol, I only know pistols that have 20 round clips)

Damn ninjas!

I get really sick of hearing how people...oh what's the phrase..."So totally quick scope IRL!" Yep that's the one! You can't even fathom the amount of rage I feel when I hear that...

That or when people pronounce the names of guns wrong. It's not a mosey naagant dammit!

Lol xD my first gun and also it can be said like moisen or whatever xD there are different ways to say it as long as you say it somewhat correctly along the lines of Mozin Nagant xD it's not really a big deal how you say it