Gun nuts (Common mistakes)

[ChildofGallifrey]

Pretty much this

 

[theloneassassin]

Pretty much this

Is he hiding a drum mag in one of his arm muscles? xD

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

 

[theloneassassin]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

Lol don't shoot yourself in the foot!!

 

[Worgen]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

 

[Shock and Awe]

OT: Pretty much the laundry list of things people who play Call of Duty but never use real weapons think. Namely that you can fire full auto with any semblance of accuracy with anything.

I don't know, I think if the call of duty games do one thing right it's showing that firing full auto at any kind of long range isn't going to hit crap.

I have no problem with it in the game, it just annoys me that people think it actually works like that.

 

[Yokai]

The only thing that bothers me is when guns in film and TV make ridiculously loud clicking and sliding sounds every time they're handled. It's like they have a bunch of oiled ball bearing rattling around in the barrel.

My brother is far more particular and complains about everything from getting the firing rate on a Python wrong to all of the various reasons a 40k bolter is poorly designed. This annoys me far more than any firearm inaccuracies, and I just tell him to shut up and enjoy the game/movie/book.

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

 

[jbchillin]

when people use the term silencer it is actually a suppressor.

 

[derdeutschmachine]

Yeah, cocking back the hammer is not needed for modern pistols because when you pull back on it to chamber the round it automatically cocks the hammer, and usually the pistol is all ready to shoot as soon as you pull it out and pop the safety off.

This is a common misconception upon gun designs. If you have a sigle action only gun you do have to cock the hammer before see any modern 1911 that's built to the A-2 Spec. However in the situation of a double only you cannot physically lock the hammer by pulling it back. and theres the option of a double single design where you can choose to cock the hammer back which reduces pressure needed to fire the round.
the benefit of cocking a hammer back is to reduce the trigger pressure needed to fire the weapon, very commonly (especially in the case of revolvers) trigger pressure is quite heavy and therefore adds to the tendency for barrel walk. This was overcome significantly by the introduction of the semi-auto design in which, after the first shot, you no longer had a long trigger pull.

also on point for the original post here. there are hundreds of guns chambered in the .22 cal range and currently most military forces use the .223 which is a variant of the .22.

And yes I do own guns if you think my facts are off, look them up yourself.

 

[Shock and Awe]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

There is no safety on a Glock, without a hammer its almost impossible to discharge the weapon by dropping it. Plus it has a center pull trigger, so if something isn't pulling it almost exactly as a human does, it wont pull.

 

[Worgen]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

 

[Zantos]

When someone thinks that you can just shoot someone in the leg to get out of trouble. In addition to the point made above, it's also pretty freakin difficult.

There was a thread on here a while ago about a guy who was attacked by a gang and he pulled a pistol and emptied it into the chest of one of the assailants. Some people were saying that the guy could have just shot him in the leg. Like that's not difficult enough without "beaten round the head blur-o-vision". Without debating whether or not it was reasonable force, the thing to do in that situation is point at the largest thing you can still see and pull.

Same applies for headshots. Again, I know games make it look easy, but in real life heads have a nasty habit of being small and moving.

 

[Gaiseric]

The biggest mistake I've encountered with the people I know is that they buy guns they can't use or buying a gun 'cause they think it's cool.

My mom can't pull the slide back on a Glock but she bought one. She can't take the recoil or the weight of a .357 magnum so she bought a snub nose .357 magnum(not realizing the reduced weight and barrel length with increase the recoil and she won't ask anyone gun question except me if she asks any at all). Some friends want to buy a .44 magnum because they want a big gun, but they have little to no experience and don't realize that they are not cheap. Another wants to buy a 12 gauge so he can make it into a sawed off(bad fucking idea!). And my brother only wants a S&W .357 and rules out any other gun out. -___-

edited to add additional content about 5 times.

 

[theloneassassin]

Yeah, cocking back the hammer is not needed for modern pistols because when you pull back on it to chamber the round it automatically cocks the hammer, and usually the pistol is all ready to shoot as soon as you pull it out and pop the safety off.

This is a common misconception upon gun designs. If you have a sigle action only gun you do have to cock the hammer before see any modern 1911 that's built to the A-2 Spec. However in the situation of a double only you cannot physically lock the hammer by pulling it back. and theres the option of a double single design where you can choose to cock the hammer back which reduces pressure needed to fire the round.
the benefit of cocking a hammer back is to reduce the trigger pressure needed to fire the weapon, very commonly (especially in the case of revolvers) trigger pressure is quite heavy and therefore adds to the tendency for barrel walk. This was overcome significantly by the introduction of the semi-auto design in which, after the first shot, you no longer had a long trigger pull.

also on point for the original post here. there are hundreds of guns chambered in the .22 cal range and currently most military forces use the .223 which is a variant of the .22.

And yes I do own guns if you think my facts are off, look them up yourself.

Wait are you arguing with what I said? I am having trouble deducing your reply! Sorrry And I know things varies from gun to gun of course

 

[Athol]

^Pretty much every thing listed above^

That, and mis-identifying weapon types (An MP5 is NOT an assault rifle...ever!)


P.S. and suppressed revolvers...there is only one that I know of that could acctualy use use a suppresor and its horribly outdated.

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

 

[KingGolem]

One thing that's really starting to grate on me is how I've never seen an accurate depiction of a chaingun. It doesn't go "dakka-dakka-dakka" like those orks are always talking about, it sounds more like an exploding chainsaw. It's like just one loud, continuous, buzzing roar. Also, you don't spray and pray with it. Its rate of fire is so fast that you litterally cannot carry (that's why it's usually a mounted weapon, too) enough bullets to waste on spray and pray. If you just held down the trigger, you'd be out of ammo in about three seconds. When my grandpa was in the army, he said that some of their helicopters had chainguns on them, and when they loaded up the belts every fifth bullet was a tracer round. When they'd fire it, it would look like a solid line of fire. I imagine it would look pretty badass.

 

[derdeutschmachine]

Yeah, cocking back the hammer is not needed for modern pistols because when you pull back on it to chamber the round it automatically cocks the hammer, and usually the pistol is all ready to shoot as soon as you pull it out and pop the safety off.

This is a common misconception upon gun designs. If you have a sigle action only gun you do have to cock the hammer before see any modern 1911 that's built to the A-2 Spec. However in the situation of a double only you cannot physically lock the hammer by pulling it back. and theres the option of a double single design where you can choose to cock the hammer back which reduces pressure needed to fire the round.
the benefit of cocking a hammer back is to reduce the trigger pressure needed to fire the weapon, very commonly (especially in the case of revolvers) trigger pressure is quite heavy and therefore adds to the tendency for barrel walk. This was overcome significantly by the introduction of the semi-auto design in which, after the first shot, you no longer had a long trigger pull.

also on point for the original post here. there are hundreds of guns chambered in the .22 cal range and currently most military forces use the .223 which is a variant of the .22.

And yes I do own guns if you think my facts are off, look them up yourself.

Wait are you arguing with what I said? I am having trouble deducing your reply! Sorrry And I know things varies from gun to gun of course

Your claim was that cocking the hammer wasn't needed in modern guns, in the case of a single action pistol you are mistaken, that is all.

 

[theloneassassin]

One thing that's really starting to grate on me is how I've never seen an accurate depiction of a chaingun. It doesn't go "dakka-dakka-dakka" like those orks are always talking about, it sounds more like an exploding chainsaw. It's like just one loud, continuous, buzzing roar. Also, you don't spray and pray with it. Its rate of fire is so fast that you litterally cannot carry (that's why it's usually a mounted weapon, too) enough bullets to waste on spray and pray. If you just held down the trigger, you'd be out of ammo in about three seconds. When my grandpa was in the army, he said that some of their helicopters had chainguns on them, and when they loaded up the belts every fifth bullet was a tracer round. When they'd fire it, it would look like a solid line of fire. I imagine it would look pretty badass.

or when people think some guns are quiet and suppressors actually make them silent xD It may not seem guns are loud in movies and in games but they sure as hell are I also lol when people think soldiers wear ear protection while out on the field.