Gun nuts (Common mistakes)

[Worgen]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

 

[theloneassassin]

Yeah, cocking back the hammer is not needed for modern pistols because when you pull back on it to chamber the round it automatically cocks the hammer, and usually the pistol is all ready to shoot as soon as you pull it out and pop the safety off.

This is a common misconception upon gun designs. If you have a sigle action only gun you do have to cock the hammer before see any modern 1911 that's built to the A-2 Spec. However in the situation of a double only you cannot physically lock the hammer by pulling it back. and theres the option of a double single design where you can choose to cock the hammer back which reduces pressure needed to fire the round.
the benefit of cocking a hammer back is to reduce the trigger pressure needed to fire the weapon, very commonly (especially in the case of revolvers) trigger pressure is quite heavy and therefore adds to the tendency for barrel walk. This was overcome significantly by the introduction of the semi-auto design in which, after the first shot, you no longer had a long trigger pull.

also on point for the original post here. there are hundreds of guns chambered in the .22 cal range and currently most military forces use the .223 which is a variant of the .22.

And yes I do own guns if you think my facts are off, look them up yourself.

Wait are you arguing with what I said? I am having trouble deducing your reply! Sorrry And I know things varies from gun to gun of course

Your claim was that cocking the hammer wasn't needed in modern guns, in the case of a single action pistol you are mistaken, that is all.

I know I'm not saying that are all, I'm saying usually what they use in movies are

 

[theloneassassin]

^Pretty much every thing listed above^

That, and mis-identifying weapon types (An MP5 is NOT an assault rifle...ever!)


P.S. and suppressed revolvers...there is only one that I know of that could acctualy use use a suppressor and its horribly outdated.

The only true silent gun was the suppressed revolver and I forget what the rifle was but they had very long suppressors and I think they were built in the gun but I'm not sure about that.

 

[KingGolem]

or when people think some guns are quiet and suppressors actually make them silent xD It may not seem guns are loud in movies and in games but they sure as hell are I also lol when people think soldiers wear ear protection while out on the field.

Oh yeah, that silencer thing's a *****. I don't think you can make a silent gun, since they work by exploding and all. That other thing should be self evident: I think soldiers need to be able to hear out on the field.

 

[keve4433]

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I dunno there is just something about that pronunciation of it that just irritates me. Makes me think of cowboys...and really? I almost bought one a few days ago but I couldn't find a reliable source of ammo. My first was a Remington Wingmaster. I'm looking at a side by side right now.

 

[Dr_Horrible]

There are 2 things that really bother me when people/Hollywood/etc. talk about guns:

One is when people say 'automatic' when they mean 'semi-automatic'

The other is when Hollywood assumes that professional killers or anyone else who knows a thing about gun safety never uses proper trigger discipline (please, please, PLEASE keep your finger off the trigger when you are not ready to use it!)

The latter one was actually lampshaded quite hilariously in 'Pulp Fiction' "I just shot martin in the face!"

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

 

[Saelune]

I hate the idea that playing Call of Duty alot makes you an expert. I would say after playing alot of CoD, Rainbow Six, and the like, I know a fair bit about guns...for someone who knows nothing about them, but I would never pretend I know what Im talking about with guns.

 

[theloneassassin]

There are 2 things that really bother me when people/Hollywood/etc. talk about guns:

One is when people say 'automatic' when they mean 'semi-automatic'

The other is when Hollywood assumes that professional killers or anyone else who knows a thing about gun safety never uses proper trigger discipline (please, please, PLEASE keep your finger off the trigger when you are not ready to use it!)

The latter one was actually lampshaded quite hilariously in 'Pulp Fiction' "I just shot martin in the face!"

xD yeah, this does not apply to snipers who have to wait and see to take the shot though, and usually depending on the trigger they need to apply some force to it until they are given the clear to take the shot.

 

[theloneassassin]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

Also how you never see people use much breathing techniques or aiming with one eye closed. Sometimes they don't even use a proper firing stance which baffles me.

 

[Jodah]

Pretty much the way guns are used in movies.
1) I find it hard to find a movie where they ACTUALLY reload (You fired like 30 shots from your pistol, I only know pistols that have 20 round clips)
2) When they shot cars with a pistol and or rifle, and it explodes in a huge fireball! (Don't get me started on fireballs)

I actually go into movies sometimes looking to see how accurate they are in that regard. Interestingly I found The Expendables to be fairly realistic in that they were reloading as necessary and the explosions weren't TOO over the top.

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

Also how you never see people use much breathing techniques or aiming with one eye closed. Sometimes they don't even use a proper firing stance which baffles me.

In a state of dire emergency most people don't remember unless they have trained for that type of situation. I doubt I would even be able to, but I would give it my best shot.

 

[theloneassassin]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

Also how you never see people use much breathing techniques or aiming with one eye closed. Sometimes they don't even use a proper firing stance which baffles me.

In a state of dire emergency most people don't remember unless they have trained for that type of situation. I doubt I would even be able to, but I would give it my best shot.

I know that if your just pulling out your weapon quickly but I see some movies where the cops have been holding their pistol for a long time yet have not even adopted a correct stance.

 

[Gaiseric]

There are 2 things that really bother me when people/Hollywood/etc. talk about guns:

One is when people say 'automatic' when they mean 'semi-automatic'

The other is when Hollywood assumes that professional killers or anyone else who knows a thing about gun safety never uses proper trigger discipline (please, please, PLEASE keep your finger off the trigger when you are not ready to use it!)

The latter one was actually lampshaded quite hilariously in 'Pulp Fiction' "I just shot martin in the face!"

Trigger discipline! Of course, I can't believe I forgot that one!

It freaks me out when I go to the range and see how many people don't use trigger discipline. Not to mention I've almost been shot because some jackass decided it would be a good idea to turn around andpoint a loaded gun at me w/ his finger on the trigger b/c he got a head shot.

 

[theloneassassin]

There are 2 things that really bother me when people/Hollywood/etc. talk about guns:

One is when people say 'automatic' when they mean 'semi-automatic'

The other is when Hollywood assumes that professional killers or anyone else who knows a thing about gun safety never uses proper trigger discipline (please, please, PLEASE keep your finger off the trigger when you are not ready to use it!)

The latter one was actually lampshaded quite hilariously in 'Pulp Fiction' "I just shot martin in the face!"

Trigger discipline! Of course, I can't believe I forgot that one!

It freaks me out when I go to the range and see how many people don't use trigger discipline. Not to mention I've almost been shot because some jackass decided it would be a good idea to turn around andpoint a loaded gun at me w/ his finger on the trigger b/c he got a head shot.

yeah, or how they don't carry a gun correctly loaded or not, pointing at the ground is usually the safest way to go but I have seem some people point straight ahead when someone is infront of them.

 

[IAmWright777]

Also, silencers. They are not that quite. They still sound like a freaking gun.

Actually, they can be that quiet. A silencer made well enough on it's own can be, well silent. Also, there's subsonic rounds that can be combined with suppressors that make them silent. Of course, there is still the sound of the action clicking if that's what you meant?

 

[monstersquad]

^Pretty much every thing listed above^




P.S. and suppressed revolvers...there is only one that I know of that could acctualy use use a suppresor and its horribly outdated.

I always assumed that a silenced revolver was a subtextual reference, like, it meant that the bearer was particularly badassed and/or well-connected or equipped.

 

[Kwaren]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

Also how you never see people use much breathing techniques or aiming with one eye closed. Sometimes they don't even use a proper firing stance which baffles me.

In a state of dire emergency most people don't remember unless they have trained for that type of situation. I doubt I would even be able to, but I would give it my best shot.

I know that if your just pulling out your weapon quickly but I see some movies where the cops have been holding their pistol for a long time yet have not even adopted a correct stance.

Yea... There is no excuse for that sort of thing. They should be trained to take a stance no matter what.

 

[theloneassassin]

I dont really get guns anymore, personally I dont feel safer with a gun around since I mean if you really need it there are so many steps to take before you can use it, you need to un-holster it then you need to chamber a round and flick the safety off and aim then fire, wit ha knife all you need to do is grab it and flick out the blade and if your 20 feet apart then chances are that knife will get to you before the gun is ready to use

also for home defense a gun seems like a false sense of security. I mean if you keep it in an easy to reach location then if someone breaks into your house they have your gun, if you keep it locked up then you need to get to it before someone who breaks into your house gets to you, not to mention that they probably already have a gun anyway since its not like its hard to get them

The only steps I have to take to use my Glock when I carry it is pull it out and shoot... Yes, that's right, I carry it chambered.

unless you also carry it without the safety off someone can close that distance really fast and you would be lucky to get one good shot off with it before the knife was at you and if you carry it chambered with no safety then thats just stupid

The Glock 17 has no safety. It will only fire with a proper trigger squeeze. They are damn safe.

I still wouldnt trust it, are you sure there is no chance of you or anyone else accidently grabbing it and firing off a round?

I carry it in my waist band and never grab the trigger area when pulling it. I am fairly sure I'm fine.

well if you want to be really sure you could handle a knife you should see how quickly you can pull and be ready for someone who is coming running at you full tilt

That is why I don't totally rely on the gun. In that situation I would attempt to get out of the way before trying to draw.

Also how you never see people use much breathing techniques or aiming with one eye closed. Sometimes they don't even use a proper firing stance which baffles me.

In a state of dire emergency most people don't remember unless they have trained for that type of situation. I doubt I would even be able to, but I would give it my best shot.

I know that if your just pulling out your weapon quickly but I see some movies where the cops have been holding their pistol for a long time yet have not even adopted a correct stance.

Yea... There is no excuse for that sort of thing. They should be trained to take a stance no matter what.

Or in movies when cops open fire on someone who does not have a weapon or in a game when that happens. I always LOL so hard at that

 

[Dr_Horrible]

There are 2 things that really bother me when people/Hollywood/etc. talk about guns:

One is when people say 'automatic' when they mean 'semi-automatic'

The other is when Hollywood assumes that professional killers or anyone else who knows a thing about gun safety never uses proper trigger discipline (please, please, PLEASE keep your finger off the trigger when you are not ready to use it!)

The latter one was actually lampshaded quite hilariously in 'Pulp Fiction' "I just shot martin in the face!"

xD yeah, this does not apply to snipers who have to wait and see to take the shot though, and usually depending on the trigger they need to apply some force to it until they are given the clear to take the shot.

You are absolutely correct on that point, it just kind of pisses me off when it seems like nobody knows what they are doing *mumbles angrily at hollywood*

Trigger discipline! Of course, I can't believe I forgot that one!

It freaks me out when I go to the range and see how many people don't use trigger discipline. Not to mention I've almost been shot because some jackass decided it would be a good idea to turn around andpoint a loaded gun at me w/ his finger on the trigger b/c he got a head shot.

Oh god, I hate it when people act like jackasses at a range. It surprises me how these people managed to pass the gun registration and everything, yet still seem to be ignorant about gun safety!

Off-topic: How does the captcha expect me to use spanish accented letters?!