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Johnnyallstar

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I don't have a picture on hand, but I have a Palma modified Winchester 70. It's got a snakewood stock, heavy stainless match barrel, floating action, adjustable cheekplate and shoulderplate, muzzlebrake, the works.

It was at Cabela's for $1000, on clearance from $5,000 used. I only had to get a shoulder pad customized for it.

"Palma" is a shooting competition for extreme long range shooting with the .308 caliber, using only iron sights, for those of you who don't know what it is.
 

jdun

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tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in any rifle IMO. I learn the hard way a long time ago that bi-pod weight/slow you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
 

Jark212

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My Brazilian M9 Knockoff, given to me by my Father it has never jammed once and the recoil is as genital as a summer breeze, I'd prefer it over a .45 any day of the week...
 

toastmaster2k8

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I have an M1A, Its not mine, its my brothers but he stores it at my house most of the time, So I fiddle with it a lot and he put a scope on it which makes it more Bad ass than it was before. bit heavier now though, but will make stopping the zombies a lot more easier especially with a 30 round clip of .308
 

toastmaster2k8

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jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in aby rifle IMO. I learn a long time ago and the hard way that bi-pod weight you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
Yah, Heavy AR15s do suck, my brother put a big scope on it and I had to shoot in a sitting position just to keep it up let alone hit the target.
 

AllLagNoFrag

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Favourite gun would be the Assault Rifles with fictional hearbeat sensors so that I can pwn noobs duhhhh.

Alright in all seriousness, about to enter the army that has recently started to utilise the new SAR-21 AR (bulp-up design). According to friends that are currently inside, it is lighter (thank god) than the previous AR used, the M16 so going to see how that goes.


As far as what I own... only airsoft guns because of country laws :p
 

Aur0ra145

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jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in any rifle IMO. I learn the hard way a long time ago that bi-pod weight/slow you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
You hit the nail on the head about the bipod, I didn't want to say anything because they do have their uses, but I just use a sling and bone structure instead.

Jdun, where do you go shoot? Are you a 3 gun guy? You're info seems to be right on
 

TheIr0nMike

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M1911. Unlike the Glock, it's actually a classy pistol and has power behind it's elegance.

I would also love to try out a Winchester Repeater and M14/M1A.
 

Jodah

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Favorite now : Remington 1100 12 Gauge shotgun. Loaded with 00 buckshot, nothing beats a good shotgun for home defense. Its actually my dad's gun but I use it the most and will most likely inherit it.

Dream gun : 50 cal sniper rifle. I've always liked long ranged shooting, which I suppose is somewhat odd when my favorite gun now is a shotgun.

Realistic Dream gun : 10 gauge shotgun. My dad and I are actually talking about picking one up. It has a bit more range then a 12 gauge, which is what we are after.
 

Aur0ra145

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Jodah said:
Favorite now : Remington 1100 12 Gauge shotgun. Loaded with 00 buckshot, nothing beats a good shotgun for home defense. Its actually my dad's gun but I use it the most and will most likely inherit it.

Dream gun : 50 cal sniper rifle. I've always liked long ranged shooting, which I suppose is somewhat odd when my favorite gun now is a shotgun.

Realistic Dream gun : 10 gauge shotgun. My dad and I are actually talking about picking one up. It has a bit more range then a 12 gauge, which is what we are after.
If you're looking for amazing shotgun range, look at the Marlin Goose Gun, they made a few models in 10 gauge, the only draw back is that the ammunition is ungodly expensive.
 

jdun

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Aur0ra145 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in any rifle IMO. I learn the hard way a long time ago that bi-pod weight/slow you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
You hit the nail on the head about the bipod, I didn't want to say anything because they do have their uses, but I just use a sling and bone structure instead.

Jdun, where do you go shoot? Are you a 3 gun guy? You're info seems to be right on
I don't complete anymore. I live in the Hampton Roads, Va area about 30-45 minutes away from blackwater. I am a member of my local gun club in the area. We have our own private range that opens 24/7. Every member has the key to the place. I also have friends that own farms that allow us to shoot there. On rare occasion I shoot 1000 yards at blackwater when they have NRA high power match. I however don?t allow my score to be entered because I am using the range time for a different purpose.

I mostly shoot AR15. Over 80% of my shooting involve AR15. I use a .22lr conversion kit (save a lot of ammo money) on my main AR15 to practice. Every range session I shoot about 600 to 1k of .22lr and couple of hundred of 5.56 (depending where and the time). At night we are limited to .22lr so we won?t wake up the neighbors at our indoor range. Only .22lr on Sunday church time.

.22lr ar15 conversion kit
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XCMMG22Conv&groupid=55

Unless we go to the farm, we mostly shoot at night. This allows us to have the entire indoor range to our self. We basically can do whatever we like as long as we follow the rules. We practice shooting on the move, timing drills, shooting behind barricades, low light shooting (very fun and very intense), drawing form holster, etc.

I spend most of my internet time on Arfcom forum(ar15.com).
 

tsb247

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jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in any rifle IMO. I learn the hard way a long time ago that bi-pod weight/slow you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
I appreciate the feedback, and I may move the scope. However, the eye relief of a scope cannot be changed (the distance at which the full sight picture is clearly visible - without parallax), as I am sure you know. I may be able to tweak it a little, but I have had some issues with it in the past. However, I will give your advice a go and see how well it works. I like this scope, and it was a good price, so I intend to keep it on this rifle until it breaks, or until I can find something better that I can afford. What I don't think you realize is that I built this rifle for under $1500. That's an achievement in and of itself!

As far as the weight is concerned, I don't find myself moving very much with this thing anyway. I had it in this configuration for prairie dog hunting. That's not the most exhausting creature to hunt; sitting atop a bluff firing off shot after shot for hours on end. When I put my iron sights on, I generally remove the bi-pod and scope anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

However, the bi-pod will stay when the scope is attached. I enjoy the rock-solid stability, and it comes in handy since I mainly shoot at very small targets at ranges of 250-300 yards or so. In all honesty, I could go either way, but I simply prefer the bi-pod, and I have found it has done me more good than harm to have it.

The foregrip is a remainder from when I still had my red dot (which I gave to a friend of mine who had more of a use for it at the time). It's just a pain to take off since the built in sling swivel on the front of the rifle is permanently attached to the gas block. I have to remove the rails to take it off, and it's kind of a pain, so I just leave it attached.

EDIT: I am not exactly new to shooting ARs either. I have been shooting them for a little over five years now, and I usually get together with my Marine and Army friends for some friendly competitions. I can usually hold my own with the likes of them. For me, it's about what works. I have had no formal training, but I have had (and still have) some excellent teachers to show me the ropes.

Oh, and I recognize a great many of those pics form AR15.com. I'm a member there, but it's been ages since I have visited the site. I have gotten lost in the photo threads for hours on end. Mike LaRue and several other always post the coolest pics!
 

tsb247

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jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
Waffle22 said:
Koeryn said:
I may end up getting a P90 just to have, even if I think it's a crap gun by a crap company. I'm an HK fan boy. =p
What makes the P90 a crap gun and why is FNH a crap company? The P90 is primarily used for counter terrorism/VIP protection by 31 countries world wide including Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, U.K, and the US. FNH is responsible for the Browning High Power, the first pistol to use the short recoil action on a link-less barrel, which nearly all modern handguns are based off of (including the USP). Today FNH manufactures 70% of the small arms used by the US military, from M4s to M2s, and also owns both WInchester and Browning. Recently the FNH SCAR-L out performed the HK 416 in the SOF Combat Assault Rifle trails and has already started replacing M4s in SOF. Unlike HK, FNH doesn't hate civilians. In addition to the PS90 and FS2000, they released the civilian friendly SCAR 16S. HK has no intention of releasing a civilian version of the XM8, G36, or MP7. HK is going to release the civilian version of the 416 (a gas piston AR-15 w/ an HK sticker on it) but they have designed it to be incompatible with standard AR-15 lowers.... so the only way to use it is to buy the entire $3500 rifle. I also forgot to mention the fact the FNP series of handguns are on par with USPs in every aspect, FOR HALF THE FUCKING PRICE.

You may love HK, but HK thinks you suck and hates you

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/
FN is a great company. They are a major producer of small arms to many militaries and law enforcement around the world.

The problem with the P90 (civilian model PS90) and FN 5-7 pistol is the caliber they use. The running joke is that it takes the entire magazine (P90 all 50 rounds. Keep in mind it is a joke and it does not take 50 rounds to kill a bad guy) to stop a bad guy. The 5.7x28mm is not a caliber to trust with your life.

The only active government organization that use P90 is the Secret Service.

DocGKR has a Ph.d in ballistic and he doesn't recommend 5.7x28mm to law enforcement and military.
http://www.google.com/search?q=DocGKR+5.7&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a

I don't like bullpup. Those firearms sacrifice a lot for one advantage (compactness). You do everything slower with bullpup. All special operators use conventional rifle design instead of bullpup even in countries that use bullpup as their standard.
I would argue against the idea the the 5.7x28mm is a poor round for stopping a threat. It's got a nice propensity to tumble upon hitting a soft target; creating a wound channel that is > or = to a 9mm. The only downside that I can see is the pure lack of kinetic energy. In that respect, it does have very little actual 'stopping' power.

Whatever the case, the round was conceived for one purpose and one purpose only - To penetrate body armor.
Go check out the link I posted.

DocGKR and his peer have argue against using the 5.7x28 for sometime. They have far more knowledge than anyone here on ballistic. They spend their entire adult life on the subject.

There is nothing special about the 5.7. Almost every standard rifle round penetrate soft body armor. AP pistol rounds will penetrate soft body armor.
I have seen many articles and videos claiming short-comings of the 5.7x28mm round. However, I will still firmly disagree.

1. The 5.7x28mm round exists for the sole purpose of defeating body armor. Period.
2. I am an aerospace engineering student. I am well-versed in ballistics and physics. With the 5.7x28mm it's not about kinetic energy imparted on the target, but rather the way the round moves once it impacts. A round need not hit like a sledge-hammer to put someone down for good.

First, the round tumbles upon entering a soft target. have you not seen any ballistic gelatin tests with the round? It creates a substantial wound channel.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/FN%20SS195%20lead-free%20FMJ.html
http://www.brassfetcher.com/SS195%20FMJ%20and%20SS197%20ballistic%20tip%20(bare%20and%20heavy%20clothing).html

Not to mention that a simple test with some wet phone books can show how devastating a 5.7x28mm round can be when compared with a 9mm (a common carry round). The 5.7 penetrates the soft phone books farther, and does more damage along the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERxZrzigoK4

You know what's funny? People said the same thing about the M16 and the 5.56 when they were introduced (it's too small and light of a round to be effective!). Now, there are a lot of people out there who aren't breathing anymore due to the M16 and the 5.56.
 

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I've got myself a 1892 model 30-30 Winchester repeater. ^^
My model was picked up from about $250 AUD from a great firearms shop in melbourne about a year ago.
It's simply a great, reliable hunting and all-round varmint rifle I reckon.
In the year that I've had it I've learnt how to get the most out of mine, as my winchester tends to aim off to the right just the slightest, so if I'm aiming at anything more than 100 metres away I'll have to aim about 5mm to the left of it to get a hit. I still love it tho and I swear it's like a car when it comes to personality. every one of them shoots just a little different. ;P
this is almost identical to mine
 

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tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
jdun said:
tsb247 said:
You need to either replace the optic or move it forward. As it stands the optic placement is not ideal. Your nose should be right behind the charging handle.

Proper way to mount a Telescopic scope.
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/AR2005.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/UB3-15.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zmp75s.jpg
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/conan56/bdarty022.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7940/dsc05032o.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/Deussne/Gun%20collection/ar545/IMG_2357.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9335/12826003.jpg

Proper way to mount a RDS:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4719482962_73bb05efd5_b.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae86/Mccraypics/BCM115.jpg
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/RANGE%20PICS/f694e965-1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/004-4.jpg?t=1276295200
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/TNVZ125439.jpg

Nose behind charging handle. Like these guys.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4056259324_c42e2ce1c5.jpg
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/magpull_class2.jpg
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/shops/crwuk/resources/image//ChrisCosta.jpg
http://www.ttellc.net/images/pws0s.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/jaf0206/DSC00061.jpg
I am aware that the scope is too far back. This particular scope has a very low eye-relief, and parallax becomes a bit of a problem if I shift it forward too much more than this.

I got this scope for $130 at a gun show. When I Googled the serial number on the scope, I got a hit to some company in Denmark (I can't remember them off the top of my head). This model would usually cost over $900 without shipping when I did the currency conversions. I really wish I could remember the manufacturer.

I have heard, "Nose against the charging handle," a million times, and with a short/medium range optic mounted, I follow that rule. However, this scope doesn't seem to allow for it.
Put it forward. Play with the placements of the rings to try to get better eye relief. At it is you will have many problems including operating the charging handle. It is a gear issue that needs to be resolve.

This is a short video how quick and effective a telescopic scope can be if place right.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1205&Itemid=39

Primary Arms make an affordable telescopic scope and red dot.
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=205&categoryId=156
http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=304

There are many new AR15 shooters that made the mistake of thinking bigger is better and end up with poor gears. From my personal experience I?ll pay a high premium to keep my gears as light and small as possible. I sometime trains for over six hours, all the way past midnight and trust me carrying a heavy AR15 suck.

Here is a good article on why you should keep your rifle as light as possible.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2010/06/10/its-only-a-few-ounces/

One last thing take the bi-pod off and move the vertical grip to the bi-pod location. You don't need bi-pod in any rifle IMO. I learn the hard way a long time ago that bi-pod weight/slow you down. Use a sling as a replacement for the bi-pod.

Train hard and train often!
I appreciate the feedback, and I may move the scope. However, the eye relief of a scope cannot be changed (the distance at which the full sight picture is clearly visible - without parallax), as I am sure you know. I may be able to tweak it a little, but I have had some issues with it in the past. However, I will give your advice a go and see how well it works. I like this scope, and it was a good price, so I intend to keep it on this rifle until it breaks, or until I can find something better that I can afford. What I don't think you realize is that I built this rifle for under $1500. That's an achievement in and of itself!

As far as the weight is concerned, I don't find myself moving very much with this thing anyway. I had it in this configuration for prairie dog hunting. That's not the most exhausting creature to hunt; sitting atop a bluff firing off shot after shot for hours on end. When I put my iron sights on, I generally remove the bi-pod and scope anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

However, the bi-pod will stay when the scope is attached. I enjoy the rock-solid stability, and it comes in handy since I mainly shoot at very small targets at ranges of 250-300 yards or so. In all honesty, I could go either way, but I simply prefer the bi-pod, and I have found it has done me more good than harm to have it.

The foregrip is a remainder from when I still had my red dot (which I gave to a friend of mine who had more of a use for it at the time). It's just a pain to take off since the built in sling swivel on the front of the rifle is permanently attached to the gas block. I have to remove the rails to take it off, and it's kind of a pain, so I just leave it attached.

EDIT: I am not exactly new to shooting ARs either. I have been shooting them for a little over five years now, and I usually get together with my Marine and Army friends for some friendly competitions. I can usually hold my own with the likes of them. For me, it's about what works. I have had no formal training, but I have had (and still have) some excellent teachers to show me the ropes.

Oh, and I recognize a great many of those pics form AR15.com. I'm a member there, but it's been ages since I have visited the site. I have gotten lost in the photo threads for hours on end. Mike LaRue and several other always post the coolest pics!
Yes most of those pictures are from AR15.com. Save me a lot of time and effort to upload my own or google it.

Official AR15.com Picture Thread part 21
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=467549

One of my 20" inch upper have a telescopic scope and red dot sight. The RDS is mounted at 35 degree on the handguard. I use a YHM angle mount to do it.

Dovetail Angle Mounts
http://www.yhm.net/store/rails.html

From my personal experience a good sling is more stable than a bi-pod.

Anyway keep those suggestions in the back of your mind if you reconsidered. Stay safe.
 

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apologies for not knowing how to display images, but here's a pic of my CZ-52

I basically added a more practical slide release catch and left everything else alone

http://i45.tinypic.com/14xkq5k.jpg
 

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I own a .22 cal revolver my grandpa used to own, and SKS, and a shotgun (I forgot the make and model).
My SKS has a bayonet on it, which is great. I kinda want to make it full-auto, but that is kinda illegal here in The States.

Dream gun is an M1 Garand. If only I could find one of those within my price range. Hard hitting, accurate, quick to reload, and semi-auto. I'd much rather take an M1 into a firefight than an M16, but taking an M1 to a firing range is my feasible dream in the firearm's world. That, firing a full-auto (rifle and/or shotgun), and firing a .50 cal rifle.
 

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ForgottenPr0digy said:
I want a firearm

but i have no clue on what to get??

But I do like certain guns

FN-P90
AUG
FAMAS
IMI Galil
AK-47
Kar 43
Kar 98
M1 Grand
Lee-Enfield
Get the firearm you like but if you want my opinion all gun collection should have these:

Auto Pistol
1. 1911
2. Glock (Any model, however model 17,19, 21, 22, 26, and 30 are prefer)
3. CZ-75B (the most cloned auto pistol in the world)
4. Browning Hi-Power
5. Beretta 92F (however they are not good for small hands).

Revolver
1. Any S&W
2. Any Ruger

Auto Rife
1. AR15
2. AK
3. FAL
4. M14
5. AR10/SR25

Bolt
1. Any Mauser Action.
2. Any Remington 700 Action.
3. Any Savage Rifle (Model 10 or 110 are prefer)

Shotgun
1. Remington 870
2. Mossberg 590