Yeah, it was just your typical BDSM thing with a 4 year old girl.Sarah Frazier said:
Totally happens all the time and doesn't even draw any second looks. You're so old fashioned, seriously, everybody these days is doing it!
.... Sigh.
Guy Ties Up 4-Year-Old So He Can Play Videogames
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Totally happens all the time and doesn't even draw any second looks. You're so old fashioned, seriously, everybody these days is doing it!
.... Sigh.
Well, of course, you just quit a match; I was thinking more of raids and the like. I just gave up on MMOs with raids and long quests, because it's just not do-able. I agree wholeheartedly with you, though, there are priorities, and to any sane person's mind, a child's life (especially your own's) will trump any game, any day, any time, no question.Beautiful End said:
I would much rather the headline "Mother returned from gym to find daughter tied up, and does nothing". We are no longer painted as the evil ones. Also I have a daughter and when I am playing games I don't care what part I am at if she needs me the game gets paused or I miss the cut scene. Its simple when you choose to have a child you choose to put them first. Pardon my rant.
Well, sadly stuff like that - and much much worse - happens all the time all over the world. That the father's (for lack of a better word, let's call it) video game addiction seems to be at least part of the problem is the reason this particular story ended up on the Escapist.Shawn Roberts said:
Also, while certain "mainstream" media tend to twist each and every story into a thing about how unhealthy being a gamer is, I sometimes can see where that comes from. Video games sometimes have an addictive quality. It's quite easy to get a feeling of accomplishment with minimal effort, long-lasting distraction... who of us can honestly say that he hasn't ever used a video game to avoid dealing with stuff, at least for an evening or so?
The point here is that the guy obviously had issues that led to him neglecting and abusing that girl and play videogames in the next room. It's true that it could've been alcohol abuse or any number of other things, but in this case, it was playing video games.
There really are people who can't handle the things that make gaming such a great hobby for you and me.
Somehow I think this will have more of a negative impact on the BDSM community than the gaming one...well, maybe 50-50. Also kind of disturbed about the 4-year-old being tied up before and, the mother not bothering to untie her...are we talking about Darla Crane here?
I'm not even "old", but I know that when I was a kid this wouldn't be labeled "child abuse" and send a person to jail.
Really? It's seems like everything is "jail-time warranting child abuse" today. In one side of the Escapist, people say that murderers and rapist pedophiles shouldn't get the death penalty, but you can remove someone's genitalia because of this incident.
I think that a few years ago this would involve a psychiatric evaluation, the mother and the child would be living separate from the father for a while until there is any conclusive evidence.
Anyone who replies to me saying that I endorse what he did - imagine just I kicked you in the teeth for saying such a thing.
Really? It's seems like everything is "jail-time warranting child abuse" today. In one side of the Escapist, people say that murderers and rapist pedophiles shouldn't get the death penalty, but you can remove someone's genitalia because of this incident.
I think that a few years ago this would involve a psychiatric evaluation, the mother and the child would be living separate from the father for a while until there is any conclusive evidence.
Anyone who replies to me saying that I endorse what he did - imagine just I kicked you in the teeth for saying such a thing.
I can't even think of a reaction image suitable for that post. Wow.LilithSlave said:
Do you not understand how to report on suspected crimes and suspected criminals, Grey? Here's a tip: innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law. It doesn't matter what someone tells you they said, what the cops think, how many times they've been arrested or even what they themselves have supposedly stated. Until their trial is complete, they are assumed to be as innocent as you or I. Period. You use phrases and words to imply their guilt based on what? What you've heard they said? That they've been arrested? Because that's always the truth and police are judges now?Grey Carter said:Guy Ties Up 4-Year-Old So He Can Play Video Games
One man's dumb decision to tie up a four-year-old girl so he could play games was bound to end in tears.
According to a court affidavit, one Heath Howe, a 27-year-old gentleman from Sarasota was arrested after he tied up a four-year-old girl with rope and left her in the kitchen while he retired to the living room to play games. Howe's relation to the girl is currently unknown.
The girl told police she didn't think she was being punished because Howe didn't say anything to her while he tied her up. She also claimed it wasn't the first time she'd been tied up, though she couldn't provide any details about any other incidents.
It gets better. The girl's mother returned home from the gym, accompanied by a friend called Tiffany, and not only did she not freak out when she found her daughter tied up, but she didn't even bother to free her. It was Tiffany who eventually let the girl loose. According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, the girl had noticeable ligature marks on her arms. Howe has been charged with child abuse and is currently being held in jail.
Source: Sarasota Patch [http://sarasota.patch.com/articles/sheriff-s-office-man-tied-up-child-so-he-could-play-video-games]
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Every single report you attempt is filled with trial by media conjecture and a painful readiness to swallow the words of others as fact.
I've said similar things before, and typically get a ton of flak for it. Of course then again with me it's an actual belief coming from a lot of incidents like this, as well as a personal belief in population reduction (ie limiting who can have kids would not only prevent this kind of thing but lead to less kids, and eventually less people, which I personally believe would help improve society. All of which is highly debatable but I won't go into it here).LilithSlave said:
That said, barring any kind of radical situation like that, I think the law needs to be much harsher as a deterrant, especially in holding parents responsible. In this case I'm kind of scandalized by the mother's conduct, and she doesn't appear to be in jail, when she should probably be there right alongside Howe. If that story is accurate the lack of reaction is even more disturbing than the guy tying the kid up to play video games.
People asking why video games are being mentioned:
1) Because video games are directly involved in the story. The guy allegedly tied up the kid so he could game. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you, but it's pretty relevant in this case.
2) As others have already said, this is a gaming site. Stories have to be in some way, even tangentially, related to games and gaming to appear here.
Seriously though, you can't complain or cry "anti-gaming conspiracy" every time games are mentioned in a bad light. I'm pretty sure it would have been mentioned if he had allegedly tied the girl up in order to watch tv or something. The emphasis isn't on the gaming, but rather on the (relatively) frivolous activity (tv, films, sport, shopping etc would all be considered just as bad in this sort of case by a reasonable human being) and the disproportionate nature of the alleged actions. Yes, there's a negative stereotype which we're trying to get others to see past. No, that does not mean we can cover up (though I'm loathe to use the word, censor) examples of said stereotype actually showing up.
1) Because video games are directly involved in the story. The guy allegedly tied up the kid so he could game. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you, but it's pretty relevant in this case.
2) As others have already said, this is a gaming site. Stories have to be in some way, even tangentially, related to games and gaming to appear here.
Seriously though, you can't complain or cry "anti-gaming conspiracy" every time games are mentioned in a bad light. I'm pretty sure it would have been mentioned if he had allegedly tied the girl up in order to watch tv or something. The emphasis isn't on the gaming, but rather on the (relatively) frivolous activity (tv, films, sport, shopping etc would all be considered just as bad in this sort of case by a reasonable human being) and the disproportionate nature of the alleged actions. Yes, there's a negative stereotype which we're trying to get others to see past. No, that does not mean we can cover up (though I'm loathe to use the word, censor) examples of said stereotype actually showing up.
Also this. Nothing's been proven in court yet, none of us has any way of knowing if any of this actually happened, only that someone has alleged that it did. For all we know this could be some sick person making shit up (not saying it's likely, but it does happen). People get acquitted of crimes, including child abuse, every day and sadly the media coverage often leads to them being treated just as badly as if they were guilty.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Domino effect, I like it.
Although, the original post didn't seem very sarcastic, and your post might have been better with just one of those troll faces. I don't just jump on people for no reason, I actually thought you had taken the post seriously is all.... it's been a long week.
Although, the original post didn't seem very sarcastic, and your post might have been better with just one of those troll faces. I don't just jump on people for no reason, I actually thought you had taken the post seriously is all.... it's been a long week.
Ha! Good one!Grey Day for Elcia said:
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Oh, you were serious?
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Okay, so let's get this out there so I can wrap my head around it. You are criticizing the author of a webcomic for irresponsible journalism in what is clearly not a news report, yes? I think I can help.
I could go on, but it would get repetitive.