IxionIndustries said:
It's either "Oh, guys are such assholes" or "Nice guys are fags/finish last/are creepy".
I hate double-standards..
AceAngel said:
Most girls under that so called 'category' simply date arseholes, period.
If you date a guy, his brother, his cousin, fall into a pattern of going to the same scenes and generally doing everything to fall for the same 'type' of guy, then ofcourse you're going to have a higher ratio of arseholes to differents guys to date under statistics.
I'm not saying these specific ladies are bad with math, but they sure go out of their way to seems so.
ShadowDude112 said:
I hate girls who say that they can't find nice guys but when they do, they throw them away.
These.
Feelings have their own logic that's been bred into us over thousands of years of evolution. Since civilization is an anomaly in terms of our evolutionary development, the way we react to certain types of people doesn't really make sense in the context of the way things "should" work in modern life.
To make an obtuse generalization myself, women (especially young women) find assholes attractive and exciting because they are usually self-confident (read: self-involved -- looks about the same in practice) and are fun to be around (read: get into trouble a lot and/or do a lot of stupid/reckless stuff).
Women (again, especially young women) disrespect nice guys because they're more likely to be caring, diplomatic, and eager to please (read: pussy-whipped) and boring (read: don't do stupid/reckless stuff).
Now imagine you're a woman living in caveman times, when life is tough, food, water, and shelter are scarce, and the dudes from the next tribe over want to drag you away by your hair and rape you. Who would you rather be hanging out with: the asshole, or the nice guy? Keep in mind, you're going to be extremely lucky to live into your late 20s.
Yeah.
Men, of course, experience the same thing too. Think about the last person you knew (male or female) who was nice to you all the time.
Maybe they did you a lot of favors without asking for anything in return, maybe they treated you to lunch/dinner a lot, maybe they were really careful not to say anything that might offend you. Maybe you appreciated their thoughtfulness, but (sooner or later) it probably got on your nerves as well.
People like that often seem fake, needy, or just not worth being around. They seem like leeches, like pesky salesmen. They may be offering their money or their time, but they're taking your emotional energy (by asking that you pay attention to them, whether you really like them or not) in return. It's impossible to respect such a person.
So the next time you hear a girl say "Oh, that guy I dated (and probably had sex with many times), he is such an asshole!" or "Ugh, I hate men, they're all a bunch of assholes!" or "I just want to meet a nice guy." she's probably just doesn't know what she wants, doesn't understand why she feels attracted to some types of men and not others, and is regurgitating societal norms regarding what types of men a woman should be interested in.
I've been told that Marlon Brando in
A Streetcar Named Desire and James Dean in
A Rebel Without a Cause were such powerful representations of "asshole men" (read: powerful men) that women would masturbate in the theater when they were onscreen. Don't know if that's true or not, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if it happened once or twice.