Hacker Group: "This is the beginning of the end for Sony", promises more hacks soon

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gorillahertz

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CrystalShadow said:
loc978 said:
Dear hackers: I demand equal rights for Microsoft users. It's a slightly more deserving company anyway.

*goes back to playing games on his secure PC running ubuntu*
Lol. I watched two sets of videos about hacking the Wii & PS3 (and incedentally a lot of other consoles.)

They firstly pointed out that pretty much all console hacks except the PS2 were done for the purposes of running homebrew software and/or linux.
(The PS2 having been hacked explicitly for piracy.)

The only console NOT hacked was the PS3, which changed almost instantly the moment Linux support was removed.

They do point out that piracy is a side effect of these hacks, but that's a different issue.

The main thing they were discussing was what console security was actually like:

The Wii had moderate security, but some badly implemented security functions meant it was useless, and hackers can do anything they like with one, essentially. (Gamecube backwards compatibility was also an inherent security flaw because of the lack of security supported by the gamecube. And you can't retroactively add security without breaking gamecube support)

The PS3 looked on the surface like it would have the strongest security of any console... But, as it turns out, it's only strong in theory, because again, some fundamental security stuff wasn't actually implemented properly.
(And that doesn't even begin to cover PSN security, which relied on the idea that the PS3 couldn't be cracked.)

In both the case of the Wii & PS3, the eventual hacks that were developed allowed such low-level system access that there was no possible way of patching the vulnerability.


Then there's microsoft.
Which actually created strong security, AND implemented it properly. As a result, while the Xbox 360 has been hacked at least twice, and these hacks allowed a fairly large degree of access to the hardware, the security setup was still strong enough that Microsoft could quickly patch out the holes the hackers were using, rendering the hacks useless, and any hacker back where they started from once the patch was implemented.

In other words, Microsoft actually knows what it's doing and while there were a few flaws, they weren't at a low enough level to be a permanent hole. Meanwhile Nintendo & Sony both implemented security systems that look good on paper, but implemented them with fatal flaws in them that mean they're unfixable short of recalling all the hardware and software ever made for the respective consoles.

I'm sure the Xbox and xbox live get hacked every so often. But the difference is, Microsoft didn't botch their security, and can generally fix whatever exploits the hackers were using.

Yeah! Microsoft's great! They have SO MUCH EXPERIENCE with getting hacked that they know EXACTLY what to do! This is "old hat" for THEM. You just said that "Xbox and xbox live get hacked every so often", did you even THINK about that?

P.S. Capitallized words denote HEAVY sarcasm.
 

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I give up on the intelligence of humanity. No this won't run Sony into the ground... Yes the hackers are douchebags and I'm in line to having the suck my dick too.
*Epic sigh*
I would like to say to the future prison cellmates to the hackers, they'll make nice prison bitches.
 

codebulder

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These guys are on the fast track to becoming terrorists. Wont be long till these guys are throwing a flashbang through their door:
 

The Random One

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Ha ha, yeah right. The guys who did it aren't going to tweet about it or brag. They aren't activists, they are criminals. These are just a bunch of douchebags trying to cash in on others' fame.
 

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Seriously, the people who got Sony workers' information were actually trying to hurt Sony because of their poor customer service.
The attack that brought down Sony's entire network so they could buff security was probably a money grab since they realized how poorly Sony's security systems were.
Now LulzSec is just trying to be "cool" and see if they can bring down Sony entirely because they want to be awesome and brag to all their friends.

As stated before, groups like LulzSec are giving a bad name to hackers.
 

icame

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Gimme a crochet mallet and those guys addresses. icame has some work to do.
 

Tdc2182

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This is assuming that they fully understand the new system Sony restored...

I don't even think they're bluffing, I just think they are gonna lose.
 

Toar

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Hackers beware, there are plenty of nerds that you screwed over and they know how to put Lenux on thier PS2 just like you do. If you mess with gamers, the gamers might mess with you.
 

icame

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loc978 said:
Dear hackers: I demand equal rights for Microsoft users. It's a slightly more deserving company anyway.

*goes back to playing games on his secure PC running ubuntu*
How do you play games for windows/mac on ubuntu anyway? Just run them through wine?
 

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Tdc2182 said:
This is assuming that they fully understand the new system Sony restored...

I don't even think they're bluffing, I just think they are gonna lose.
I hope Sony traps them in some sort of hacker trap. Arresting those people will be the kindest thing imaginable.
 

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Someone does something bad -> they must be raped and brutally murdered.

Sure, what they're doing isn't right. But the way you want to handle this makes you so much worse than them.
 

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The Random One said:
Ha ha, yeah right. The guys who did it aren't going to tweet about it or brag. They aren't activists, they are criminals. These are just a bunch of douchebags trying to cash in on others' fame.
Apparently they would.

Kopikatsu said:
TLB took down PBS and put up the username and passwords of all PBS admins because of the Frontlines documentary about Wikileaks they did.

Apparently they've already hacked into Sony's Japan website for a grand total of seven or eight hacks by them (They claim). They've also planned an attack on the FBI set for today, but it was pushed back to Friday.

There is more to the list, so I'll just give you their twitter aaaand...http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec

Yup. Let them burn.

Edit: They also have over 1000 followers...but I have no idea how Twitter or followers work, so I don't know what that means. Go me.

Edit Edit: Apparently they're the ones who did the Sony Greece server thing...and have also stolen ATM data. Really, why is this possible?

Edit Edit Edit: One of their PBS whatevers. http://freze.it/5S
 

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Toar said:
Tdc2182 said:
This is assuming that they fully understand the new system Sony restored...

I don't even think they're bluffing, I just think they are gonna lose.
I hope Sony traps them in some sort of hacker trap. Arresting those people will be the kindest thing imaginable.
I'm with you. If those guys get put in jail it would be merciful on them. If they just get slapped with a fine, hell hath no fury like a bunch of people with an internet connection
 

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icame said:
loc978 said:
Dear hackers: I demand equal rights for Microsoft users. It's a slightly more deserving company anyway.

*goes back to playing games on his secure PC running ubuntu*
How do you play games for windows/mac on ubuntu anyway? Just run them through wine?
Sometimes Wine, sometimes running a VMWare windows emulator.

[sub]Okay, Okay, I also multi-boot with Windows XP, but don't tell anyone[/sub]
 

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No hacker please stop. I don't use my ps3 often but now that I got Killzone 3 I've been playing it a lot. So please stop you are only hurting the consumers now.
 

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loc978 said:
jakefongloo said:
loc978 said:
Dear hackers: I demand equal rights for Microsoft users. It's a slightly more deserving company anyway.

*goes back to playing games on his secure PC running ubuntu*
That comment is unhelpful it may even make sense but the only result that will happen is a flame war.
Stopping at the first period, this comment is a funny joke
Continuing to the second period just makes you look like a fanboy
OT: Keep it up dickwads, I hear that hackers ass's are like a delicacy in jail. Like some good viel. Soft from inactivity.

Damn just made myself hungry
Sorry about my fanboyism. It was intended as a joke, but my anti-console bias as well as my extreme anti-Microsoft bias does tend to seep through occasionally. In my defense, those biases are backed by a couple decades of technical knowledge and experience.
For some reason I seriously doubt the knowledge part. 10 years ago MS products were a bug and virus ridden mess. Windows 7 and IE9 have mitigated that a lot. Also hasn't Microsoft shown a certain level of understanding towards its community, what with the whole kinect hack thing. You sound less experienced and knowledgeable than bitter and fanboyish.
 

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loc978 said:
Dear hackers: I demand equal rights for Microsoft users. It's a slightly more deserving company anyway.

*goes back to playing games on his secure PC running ubuntu*
This.

Sick of all the Xbox Elitists that rose up during the PSN downtime...