Halo 4 needs to give some info already.

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And do a PC port half a year after release.

Why not just play it on the console? Does it really matter? What matters is the game itself and not what platform it is on.

It should be good and skill based, while not making the game impossible to play unless you play for years to be able to kill anyone.

It matters when the only control input is inherently not very good for accurate aiming.

Oh get off that PC elitist talking point.

Ever since Halo FPS controls for consoles have been perfectly viable and was one of the biggest reasons why the series took off in the first place. Preference of a mouse and keyboard is one thing but neither is fundamentally better.

RTS's are fundamentally better for PC because of the control's demands, FPS's haven't been for a long time now. Precision with a controller creates a skill gap just like precision with a mouse does.

If aiming is inherently bad on consoles then moving is inherently bad on a keyboard.

Yes both points are right and it would be a bit foolish to suggest movement on a keyboard is decent. I don't see why I can say an analog is better for moving than ESDF/WASD but I can't say a mouse is better for aiming? From a technological standpoint my mouse is better than any analog stick for aiming.

No one complains if I were to say an Arcade pad is better for Fighters so why should this be any different? I mean really why should it?

Both systems have flaws and yes a keyboard is inherently bad for movement just as analog is for aiming in comparison. This is shown by how aim assist has mostly fallen by the way side in PC gaming on FPS titles but is still alive and well on consoles.

That last sentence you made is a perfectly logical statement.

No I am not saying that aiming or FPS games are not viable on consoles. What I am saying is that preference aside when it comes to actually aiming a virtual gun in a game an anyway decent mouse let alone a gaming mouse outperforms the analog stick.

The sooner kinks are worked out of systems like this and they become mainstream and have adequate extra input option we will all be better for it. If we can get that and the ability to completely remap controls on consoles and drop stuff like Pick up weapon and Defuse bomb on the same key we will all have a superior experience.

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I would like to say for a lot of people myself included if I had a choice I would pick PC not for power but for KB + M. There a couple of options for that on certain consoles but are hard to acquire.

Now you can argue they are equal all you want and subjective as a preference that would be a fair point (technologically aiming wise is a bit different given options on certain mice). After being a console gamer for 12ish then having been playing on the PC as well for the last 6 I will say that I find it very hard to go back to a gamepad for FPS games. At least when it comes to aiming.

That and some people such as myself do not want to pay for XBL membership when we don't even have proper dedicated server support which is a deal breaker for me for online play for something like a FPS.

This isn't a really mine is better than yours rather I prefer mine to yours. I know this has already been resolved so I am just throwing in my 2 cents on a preference for a PC version of Halo.

So because something like "no dedicated servers" (ignoring gears 3 here) is a deal breaker? Xbox live costs 1/3 the price of most MMO games per year (I get the one year card once a year, I see the ones with shorter time redundant) and allows access not just to one, but tones of online modes for games and tons of other benefits that I won't list because I don't want to sound like a Microsoft salesman. Don't you think that is kinda silly?

I personally hope we get to see some gameplay. I mean they totally by now must have some working levels.

Yes, yes it is. It is the most irritating thing in the world of multiplayer FPS gaming and thankfully Gears 3 is not the only example just the only one on the xbox that I know off.

No I do not think it is kind of silly when their competitors offer a superior service for a lower price that is not silly at all. I also do not care that MMOs require subs as that is a different thing altogether and something for which I refuse to pay.

 

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Just be glad Halo isn't being made by Valve my friend. The people who have been waiting for Half Life 2 ep 3 haven't had any new data in years.