Halo Anniversary or Halo 7: The Quest for More Money

[Vrex360]

But I think Halo Anniversary might actually take the cake in making it possible for the game to actually be entirely identical to the old one with only a graphics upgrade.

And online multiplayer, and four player co-op and a whole buttload of new maps added to it.
It's not much, but it is more then you are giving it credit for.

Imagine New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but with the exact same everything as the original Super Mario Bros.

Except, again, it wouldn't be. Halo 1 never had online co-op, or online multiplayer. Plus new maps on the multiplayer side of things, and additional bonus's for Halo: Reach.

Is it the greatest amount of new stuff we could possibly ask for? Probably not, but it's not as lacking as you say it is.

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Yeah, that was gross. I'm sorry.

 

[zileas7]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet, but the thing that bugs me is that the multiplayer is Reach-era, not the actual Halo 1 multiplayer. Other than that, I'm fine with this, as I feel the first Halo was far and away the best.

 

[Nouw]

But aren't all sequels basically a quest for more money? What's so wrong with this HD re-make compared to other ones?

 

[Vrex360]

Hence the 40$ price tag instead of the usual 60$ one. Seriously, I'm a bit surprised you're that against it when they aren't even charging full price. They COULD have, and it'd sell almost just as well.

That's also actually a good point.
It does say something that, in light of only a few additional tweaks to a game that already exists, they aren't actually charging the game full price.
Sounds quite reasonable actually.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Then don't buy it. I, personally, never played the first game, so I was thinking I might check it out. Not sure yet.

You do realize you could have just said "Look at me, I have an opinion" and made the exact same point, right?

 

[ZeroMachine]

And online multiplayer

I hate to break it to you but...

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet, but the thing that bugs me is that the multiplayer is Reach-era, not the actual Halo 1 multiplayer. Other than that, I'm fine with this, as I feel the first Halo was far and away the best.

... Oh, thank GOD, I don't have to. zeleas7, take it away.

 

[bkdlsf89990]

Check my earlier post. It isn't 100% the same. They've added hidden Terminals that explain more of the lore of the universe and link certain things together, AND it comes with what is effectively 2 and 1/3 map packs for Halo: Reach. Not to mention online co-op for 4, something that the original lacked.

Hence the 40$ price tag instead of the usual 60$ one. Seriously, I'm a bit surprised you're that against it when they aren't even charging full price. They COULD have, and it'd sell almost just as well.

As far as lore is concerned, I'm really not too happy to spend money to buy a few walls of text. For you this might be a plus, but I think for the vast majority of Halo fandom, it's of middling importance.

As for the actual game itself, it is the same. What if I just wanted another 7 maps, but I'm forced to buy a game I've owned for 10 years to get them? If they release the maps separately for less, that'll be a plus.

Original Halo co-op campaign is an additional feature, but again, all that is is an opportunity to play through a 10 year old game with a friend.

 

[Vrex360]

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Well, on the positive side I'll probably still get to play as an Elite.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Check my earlier post. It isn't 100% the same. They've added hidden Terminals that explain more of the lore of the universe and link certain things together, AND it comes with what is effectively 2 and 1/3 map packs for Halo: Reach. Not to mention online co-op for 4, something that the original lacked.

Hence the 40$ price tag instead of the usual 60$ one. Seriously, I'm a bit surprised you're that against it when they aren't even charging full price. They COULD have, and it'd sell almost just as well.

As far as lore is concerned, I'm really not too happy to spend money to buy a few walls of text. For you this might be a plus, but I think for the vast majority of Halo fandom, it's of middling importance.

As for the actual game itself, it is the same. What if I just wanted another 7 maps, but I'm forced to buy a game I've owned for 10 years to get them? If they release the maps separately for less, that'll be a plus.

Original Halo co-op campaign is an additional feature, but again, all that is is an opportunity to play through a 10 year old game with a friend.

First off, though it isn't exactly important, it isn't going to be "wall of text". Fully voiced videos. Cooler, though the basics are still the same- lore. So your point still stands (though the story's fanbase is bigger than you might give it credit for.)

And as for the map packs and prices?

Think of it this way.

How much did the Noble and Defiant map packs cost? 10$ a piece. For three maps each.

If we round it down to six maps, and they were to charge the same for these maps, it would be 20$.

By that logic, that means that you're really paying half for Halo: CEA, and half for Reach maps.

And for the record, I'm not trying to get your to buy the game. What you do is your own choice. Just trying to maybe help you see the side of those that are excited for it.

 

[bkdlsf89990]

And as for the map packs and prices?

Think of it this way.

How much did the Noble and Defiant map packs cost? 10$ a piece. For three maps each.

If we round it down to six maps, and they were to charge the same for these maps, it would be 20$.

By that logic, that means that you're really paying half for Halo: CEA, and half for Reach maps.

True. But what if I don't want Halo: CEA at all? Yet I'm forced to buy it to get at the maps.

And for the record, I'm not trying to get your to buy the game. What you do is your own choice. Just trying to maybe help you see the side of those that are excited for it.

Obviously. We're just talking here.

 

[The Bandit]

But I think Halo Anniversary might actually take the cake in making it possible for the game to actually be entirely identical to the old one with only a graphics upgrade.

And online multiplayer, and four player co-op and a whole buttload of new maps added to it.
It's not much, but it is more then you are giving it credit for.

Imagine New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but with the exact same everything as the original Super Mario Bros.

Except, again, it wouldn't be. Halo 1 never had online co-op, or online multiplayer. Plus new maps on the multiplayer side of things, and additional bonus's for Halo: Reach.

Is it the greatest amount of new stuff we could possibly ask for? Probably not, but it's not as lacking as you say it is.

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Yeah, that was gross. I'm sorry.

Why do people keep saying this...? It's two player co-op. Not four.

 

[Vrex360]

Why do people keep saying this...? It's two player co-op. Not four.

Oh, I guess I must have heard wrong then.
My mistake.

 

[ZeroMachine]

And as for the map packs and prices?

Think of it this way.

How much did the Noble and Defiant map packs cost? 10$ a piece. For three maps each.

If we round it down to six maps, and they were to charge the same for these maps, it would be 20$.

By that logic, that means that you're really paying half for Halo: CEA, and half for Reach maps.

True. But what if I don't want Halo: CEA at all? Yet I'm forced to buy it to get at the maps.

And for the record, I'm not trying to get your to buy the game. What you do is your own choice. Just trying to maybe help you see the side of those that are excited for it.

Obviously. We're just talking here.

I have a feeling they will release them separately. It'd make good business sense. They'd hit a whole other market. I also get the feeling they would make it only 20$. 7 maps for the price of 6! Ugh... if anything, I'd be pissed about how much they charge for maps

And yeah, just need to be sure. Sometimes people misread me as overly aggressive and pushy... even when I'm just talking normally. It's the internet. Weirdos, eh? XD

 

[Theron Julius]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet, but the thing that bugs me is that the multiplayer is Reach-era, not the actual Halo 1 multiplayer. Other than that, I'm fine with this, as I feel the first Halo was far and away the best.

I wonder if they will use Reach weapons or if they'll recreate the old weapons in the Reach engine. The latter would make the usage of the Reach engine fine in my books. I just want to snipe noobs with my doom pistol again.

 

[ZeroMachine]

But I think Halo Anniversary might actually take the cake in making it possible for the game to actually be entirely identical to the old one with only a graphics upgrade.

And online multiplayer, and four player co-op and a whole buttload of new maps added to it.
It's not much, but it is more then you are giving it credit for.

Imagine New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but with the exact same everything as the original Super Mario Bros.

Except, again, it wouldn't be. Halo 1 never had online co-op, or online multiplayer. Plus new maps on the multiplayer side of things, and additional bonus's for Halo: Reach.

Is it the greatest amount of new stuff we could possibly ask for? Probably not, but it's not as lacking as you say it is.

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Yeah, that was gross. I'm sorry.

Why do people keep saying this...? It's two player co-op. Not four.

Whaaat? Aw, balls, really? Lamesauce

Mind sourcing that, though? Not calling you out, just, you know... clinging on to hope that you heard wrong

 

[William Dickbringer]

-SNIP-

I see your points but I feel this really isn't milking nostalgia (well that much of of one) just because they actually doing stuff to it to make it different than the original if you wanna see true nostalgia milking look up the super mario all stars anniversary edition it was a game for the wii that ported the super mario all stars (the one without super mario word) to the wii no improvements and no added games and it costs $40 (and it's cheaper to buy the games off of the marketplace for less)
And there's also elder scrolls IV oblivion being given a 5th anniversary edition which only includes all the expansions and plus a few extras so really oblivion is more guilty in my opinion than than halo

 

[neonsword13-ops]

(Reads Title: AHHA, Spaceballs refrence. I love you.)

What you are saying is very true but people are going to buy it because it is popular. People don't care if it's different. As long as they get moar, they are happy. (Cough*GearsofWar*Cough)

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I don't mind that they are releasing the game with a graphical update, as others have said it costs 1/3 the price of any other AAA game, and comes with a solid online multiplayer, and a few new terminals for the expanded universe fans.
The crunch will come down to the indicidual. Is the experience you will get from this game worth the $40 to buy it. Some will say yes, some will say no, I say I don't have the luxury of choice because the turds aren't releasing it for the PC.

Personally I would have preferred them to either add all the content that was left out of the original (I believe the engineers were originally planned to be in game characters but dropped) and solve the corridor slog that the last few levels ended up being, but then changing that stuff would upset the hardcore nostalgia fans.

Failing that I would love to play a complete updated version of Halo 2, with the extra species (juggernauts) extra levels (The levels that were cut that would have gave a better flood introduction and better Gravemind introduction) and a better, proper ending. It is widely recognised as the worst in the franchise, but had so, so much potential.

 

[bkdlsf89990]

I have a feeling they will release them separately. It'd make good business sense. They'd hit a whole other market. I also get the feeling they would make it only 20$. 7 maps for the price of 6! Ugh... if anything, I'd be pissed about how much they charge for maps

If they released the maps and the game separately, then would make more sense and I'd have less of a problem. I'd still have problems with the game of course, but at least then I could get the maps without having to re-buy a game I already own.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I'm buying it, and so are my friends. That way we can finally play it without having to drive over to each others' houses. I think the original Halo is the best out of all of them by far. If they had changed it, I would have been annoyed. Switching out the AR for the new one that's shown up in the other Halo games? No. Duel weapon wielding? Stay away. Hunters that go down with one shot if you hit them right? Yes please.

As for why can't you just go back and play the original. I have a 360, a PS3, a Game Cube, PS2, and a XBox. My T.V. can only have three hooked up at a time, and that's the PS2, PS3, and 360. If I want to play a XBox game, I have to pull my T.V. away from the wall, untangle and then unplug the right cords, plug in the new cords, and then put everything back. By the time I've done all that, the urge to play an old game has usually passed. Is it a lazy excuse? Yes, but it's my reason.