I find it odd that you find it odd. You love your kids no matter what.scnj said:I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I find it odd that you find it odd. You love your kids no matter what.scnj said:I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I hope they don't put you on the team where they...fuck I'm too tired to be witty.CUnk said:I hope they don't put you on the team when it comes time to debate this in public. Your analogy is completely irrelevant and does nothing to shed light on the situation. It's not like they randomly targeted video games simply because he happened to play them. The murder was directly related to a disagreement over a video game and this kid's refusal to accept his parents' authority.Aries_Split said:Did the kid drink orange juice?
Yes.
And he killed his parents?
Yes.
HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!
Grow up.
Come on people.
If he was getting hammered on screwdrivers every day and they took away his orange juice because they knew he'd never drink vodka straight and then he killed them to get his orange juice back don't you think people would be scrutinizing teenage alcohol consumption and the affects it has on proper judgement?
Well stated, I agree on all points except the last. It's unknown how this particular community would react to an adult murderer -- safe to say however, that an adult would not have to hide video games from his strict parents, thus the same scenario with an adult is extremely unlikely. I do believe teens are better suited to rehab -- particularly young teens -- but I have nothing to offer except anecdotal evidence without writing a damn thesis on the subject.Zeekar said:I'm about to simultaneously argue against everyone here.
First of all, man is born helpless upon the world and it is only through the ingenious evolution of weapons that we have survived as a species. Your (anyone's) argument that guns should be banned or further limited is ridiculous and speculative. If you did alittle research, you'd see that your initial reaction is incorrect; restrictions on guns cause more deaths than they prevent. Why? Bad guys know how to get guns whether you want them to or not, and guess what all those deadly cartels love to sell on black markets? Drugs and guns. Guess what would instantly shut down said deadly cartels? Legalizing all guns and drugs.
Lack of education is the culprit here, not the weapon. Whether you want to accept it or not, the boy could have found dozens of ways to kill his parents if he was crazy enough (and he was). Poison, easy-to-Google homemade explosives; It could have been anything. However, the stupid father/mother left the gun safe unlocked, so it was that. There is no argument against this fact.
The word you were looking for (whoever you are) is neurotransmitter.
Yes, addiction can happen, and you can get addicted to video games. Yes, the boy's motivation to kill was probably the addiction, although not necessarily so. We don't know exactly what was going on here. For all we know, the parents were abusive and the video games were the kid's only escape.
Regardless, like it's been said before, the kid was crazy, video games or no. To say that they boy didn't know his parents would be dead when he shot them is just...retarded. There is no other word for it. If this kid was 6 years old, yeah, okay. But look at him. He's at least 16. Teens and preteens know what death is and what happens when you get shot with a gun. Hell, they've seen it a million times over on the TV and in games. Guess what, when you shoot an alien in Halo, does it come back to life? NO. Argument rejected right there.
I also find the hypocrisy here alittle entertaining. If this was an adult, you'd all be screaming for blood and vengeance. Because the kid is young, you all (almost) believe he's fixable. Guess what? There is no evidence that teenagers are more prone to rehab than adults. If you want fairness and compassion, you must want it for EVERYONE, or you're just a lousy hypocrite.
TL;DR: Guns - not the culprit
Games - not the culprit
Crazy/Stupid - Always the culprit
LMAO!! Exactly.Aries_Split said:Did the kid drink orange juice?
Yes.
And he killed his parents?
Yes.
HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!
Grow up.
Come on people.
And yet, if there were tougher gun laws...Malygris said:Petric shot them [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88151] with a 9 mm handgun his father kept in an unlocked lock box, killing his mother and severely wounding his father, and then tried to pin the murder on his father.
I think you missed the point. Relaxed gun control makes it easier for people to kill out of agression. If there was no gun there, the kid probably would have bitched and complained and maybe hit and kicked a bit, not go on a shooting spree that led to this.theonlywildman said:Stricter gun control wont do anything. It was a 9mm, it was probobly only meant for self-protection. Gun control wont stop people from shooting other people, its not like some guy is going to appear and stop shootings. And even when guns are outlawed people will still find ways to kill.
Haha! Awesome.ultreos2 said:So keep trying to enforce gun bans. Go right ahead. Just so you know in advance I do feel sorry for you if someone ever comes to you with the intent to kill you after you successfully have banned guns, and you die slowly.
If it were my kid, I'd like to see him quartered.scnj said:I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Imagine now a world were everyone had a gun. Every man woman and child. Sure, people would be too scared to pull a gun on someone else for fear of getting shot back, but it'd be a world based on fear.ultreos2 said:Snip