Halo Killer Sentenced to Life

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The Bandit

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scnj said:
I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I find it odd that you find it odd. You love your kids no matter what.
 

PaulaG

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I don't see how he could've been addicted to Halo....wasn't he banned from playing? While I agree that addictions come in all shapes and sizes, I can't understand how this went from him wanting to play a game to being addicted in a few hours of gameplay....he obviously had more problems going for him, and will hopefully be getting the help he so clearly needs.
 

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CUnk said:
Aries_Split said:
Did the kid drink orange juice?

Yes.

And he killed his parents?

Yes.

HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!

Grow up.


Come on people.
I hope they don't put you on the team when it comes time to debate this in public. Your analogy is completely irrelevant and does nothing to shed light on the situation. It's not like they randomly targeted video games simply because he happened to play them. The murder was directly related to a disagreement over a video game and this kid's refusal to accept his parents' authority.

If he was getting hammered on screwdrivers every day and they took away his orange juice because they knew he'd never drink vodka straight and then he killed them to get his orange juice back don't you think people would be scrutinizing teenage alcohol consumption and the affects it has on proper judgement?
I hope they don't put you on the team where they...fuck I'm too tired to be witty.

Video Games could be interchanged with anything in this scenario and it wouldn't get half the media attention. His murders came from a deep seated mental issue, the video games where just the catalyst in this situation.

Sorry if I came off on the offense. Not my intention. I need to learn to state myself better.
 

animahaynes

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if i got sentenced to prison for the rest of my life i'd commit suicide, it's not like there is anything to look forward too. What if he never got to experience Love or sex??? i hope this guy realizes his life is over and god or satan is NOT waiting for him. This is also a good reason to not believe in dumb things, cause your just gonna go crazy anyways.
 

Gruthar

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Zeekar said:
I'm about to simultaneously argue against everyone here.

First of all, man is born helpless upon the world and it is only through the ingenious evolution of weapons that we have survived as a species. Your (anyone's) argument that guns should be banned or further limited is ridiculous and speculative. If you did alittle research, you'd see that your initial reaction is incorrect; restrictions on guns cause more deaths than they prevent. Why? Bad guys know how to get guns whether you want them to or not, and guess what all those deadly cartels love to sell on black markets? Drugs and guns. Guess what would instantly shut down said deadly cartels? Legalizing all guns and drugs.

Lack of education is the culprit here, not the weapon. Whether you want to accept it or not, the boy could have found dozens of ways to kill his parents if he was crazy enough (and he was). Poison, easy-to-Google homemade explosives; It could have been anything. However, the stupid father/mother left the gun safe unlocked, so it was that. There is no argument against this fact.

The word you were looking for (whoever you are) is neurotransmitter.

Yes, addiction can happen, and you can get addicted to video games. Yes, the boy's motivation to kill was probably the addiction, although not necessarily so. We don't know exactly what was going on here. For all we know, the parents were abusive and the video games were the kid's only escape.

Regardless, like it's been said before, the kid was crazy, video games or no. To say that they boy didn't know his parents would be dead when he shot them is just...retarded. There is no other word for it. If this kid was 6 years old, yeah, okay. But look at him. He's at least 16. Teens and preteens know what death is and what happens when you get shot with a gun. Hell, they've seen it a million times over on the TV and in games. Guess what, when you shoot an alien in Halo, does it come back to life? NO. Argument rejected right there.

I also find the hypocrisy here alittle entertaining. If this was an adult, you'd all be screaming for blood and vengeance. Because the kid is young, you all (almost) believe he's fixable. Guess what? There is no evidence that teenagers are more prone to rehab than adults. If you want fairness and compassion, you must want it for EVERYONE, or you're just a lousy hypocrite.

TL;DR: Guns - not the culprit
Games - not the culprit
Crazy/Stupid - Always the culprit
Well stated, I agree on all points except the last. It's unknown how this particular community would react to an adult murderer -- safe to say however, that an adult would not have to hide video games from his strict parents, thus the same scenario with an adult is extremely unlikely. I do believe teens are better suited to rehab -- particularly young teens -- but I have nothing to offer except anecdotal evidence without writing a damn thesis on the subject.

If you want a better example of hypocrisy in this thread, it's the people blaming the murder on guns but defending video games. Aren't the two conclusions arrived at by the same faulty logic? If it wasn't for violent video games, the kid would not have killed? Similarly, if it wasn't for guns, the kid would not have killed?

Just so everyone is clear, I espouse freedom of expression and responsible gun ownership. I do not blame anything but mental illness and stupidity on the deaths in this case.
 

Kawaii_Nai

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Aries_Split said:
Did the kid drink orange juice?

Yes.

And he killed his parents?

Yes.

HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!

Grow up.


Come on people.
LMAO!! Exactly.
 

PurpleRain

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Malygris said:
Petric shot them [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88151] with a 9 mm handgun his father kept in an unlocked lock box, killing his mother and severely wounding his father, and then tried to pin the murder on his father.
And yet, if there were tougher gun laws...

Just sayen' is all.
 

theonlywildman

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Surprised that Jack Thompson hasn't already started bitching and whining about this.

Video games arnt the problem. The parents needed to explain why they didnt want him playing the game and the dad should have locked the box and put the ammo someplace else.

Stricter gun control wont do anything. It was a 9mm, it was probobly only meant for self-protection. Gun control wont stop people from shooting other people, its not like some guy is going to appear and stop shootings. And even when guns are outlawed people will still find ways to kill.
 

PurpleRain

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theonlywildman said:
Stricter gun control wont do anything. It was a 9mm, it was probobly only meant for self-protection. Gun control wont stop people from shooting other people, its not like some guy is going to appear and stop shootings. And even when guns are outlawed people will still find ways to kill.
I think you missed the point. Relaxed gun control makes it easier for people to kill out of agression. If there was no gun there, the kid probably would have bitched and complained and maybe hit and kicked a bit, not go on a shooting spree that led to this.

I hear it all the time from America: Road rage, one drive shoots the other one dead.
Without guns you're left with means that make it harder to kill so easily. You can pull a knife but the swinging or stabbing is a lot harder then aiming and pulling a small trigger.
 

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Ok, there are some things to point out according to this story. (I might be talking out of my ass, but here's my 2 cents)

This kid was obviously ADDICTED to a video game. I mean, I loved Mortal Kombat, but when I was young and my parents took it away, I'd just be pissed, not kill them.

The kid's mental state also has a play in the whole situation. The kid may have already had some kind of mental imbalance for that to push him over the edge and for him to get addicted..

I don't know, this story is strange.


The video itself had nothing to do with the kid killing people. You don't kill people in Halo, you kill aliens.
 

PurpleRain

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ultreos2 said:
So keep trying to enforce gun bans. Go right ahead. Just so you know in advance I do feel sorry for you if someone ever comes to you with the intent to kill you after you successfully have banned guns, and you die slowly.
Haha! Awesome.

Point is, people who are going to kill you slower would kill regardless. It's the people who shouldn't be killers: aka stressed kids, angry office workers, road rage victims, etc, that turn into the killers by having this means of simply pointing and clicking. So simple.

As for the point you made, I have yet to find anyone I know or friends of friends of friends that have ever been in a situation like this. You live in a very pessamistic and jaded world. People don't need to kill one another for no reason. This kid pointed out that fact in this thread.

Sticking up for the almighty bullet seems so unreasonable to me.
 

MarcusMang

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scnj said:
I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
If it were my kid, I'd like to see him quartered.
 

PurpleRain

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ultreos2 said:
Imagine now a world were everyone had a gun. Every man woman and child. Sure, people would be too scared to pull a gun on someone else for fear of getting shot back, but it'd be a world based on fear.

I don't see the point of guns into todays world. It just goes above me. I will never need one and never use one. I have a chance to fight against an attacker armed with a knife, or run away from one. A knife is a different tool all together as well. Why not ban cars for using them in an agressive manner?

I don't see an upside to having a gun. So I can maim someone who wishes to maim me? I would be worse then them. It's a horrible cycle.

I'm mearly only trying to argue against those 'accidental' deaths here so lets not run off topic. And why not fight for harsh restrictions on guns? All those deaths (a small number they may be) are still an unneeded murder. Those people had family, friends, goals for the future, lovers. Seems callous to say it's okay to keep guns to protect yourself even when those people just died for everyone elses paranoia and selfishness.
 

Dooly95

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This is nuts. One hand, you're discussing this in a video game orientated forum; of course you're going to get people on the hand of defending the game. There are people who have grown up with guns and can't imagine a thing like this happening to them, so there'll be people defending the weapons.

Whoever that said "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" sounds about right. People aren't born with the thought process of "I want this - I didn't get it - I go on murderous rampage". They're taught this via media - whether this be games, movies or TV shows.

Inattentive parents; or perhaps parents that didn't care too much for the young adult.