To be fair to the rating system, with something as subjective as rating a game, it's nigh impossible to distinguish between a 9.5 and a 9.6 or whatever. There's like 5 "states" of appreciation/rating for things: 1) It's terrible, 2) It's bad but there's worse, 3) Meh, 'salright, 4) It's good, but there's better, and 5) It's great. Everything fits somewhere in those 5 states, and the structure of the human mind makes codifying them any more specifically more or less an exercise in futility. You can do it, but for the most part you're just making up numbers.Legendairy314 said:
Halo Reach Perfect 10! WTF?
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/win.Snarky Username said:You can't simultaneously call a game perfect and say it has a bad story. THAT IS NOT LOGICAL!
What do expect? Go to IGN and look for Halo ads. Add the number of ads to the amount of hype, and you can figure out the score it's going to get.
Actually, if you look at IGN UK's review chart 10/10 is not "Perfect" it's "Masterful." Most review sources that use a numeric rating scale don't consider a 5/5, 10/10, etc. "perfect" as there would pretty much never be anything that received such a score.ALuckyChance said:
Actually, I've found that most IGN reviews are pretty solid. They're definitely biased for games with as much hype/popularity as a Halo title, so I'm not going to argue that, but for the lesser known stuff they're usually spot on.donkey9125 said:
I stand corrected then. I still believe my argument still works, however, as the story clearly isn't 'masterful.'StriderShinryu said:
Really? I mean really? No sarcasm?Skullkid4187 said:
Meh, it's IGN.
Of course they're gonna get down and suck the all mighty cock of Halo.
It's IGN. That's what they do.
They reward whoever pays them the most to give a good review.
You cannot give a 10 to anything that has flaws. Or is IGN an impersonation of division by zero? Respect -1/0 then.
As for people who defend perfect scores... 0 is shit, 10 is where it can't go higher. It doesn't make sense to skew the scale, when it's clear what a 0 is, and that 10 should be a game produced by the laws of physics themselves. Manipulating the scale like this is just being a wishful human (*cough* and a stupid one at that *cough*) at best.
As for people who defend perfect scores... 0 is shit, 10 is where it can't go higher. It doesn't make sense to skew the scale, when it's clear what a 0 is, and that 10 should be a game produced by the laws of physics themselves. Manipulating the scale like this is just being a wishful human (*cough* and a stupid one at that *cough*) at best.
What would super mario bros. 3 get? I would probably give it a 10, it is one of the games that I would consider playing on an island if I could only play one single game for another 80 years. Does it have a good story? Not really. Go rescue the princess? That's pretty much it. That, and that she's in another castle.
Now, I'm not a halo fanboy saying this, I actually hate halo. I cant stand playing with my friends for more than maybe an hour or so. But I can understand a score like this.
Now, I'm not a halo fanboy saying this, I actually hate halo. I cant stand playing with my friends for more than maybe an hour or so. But I can understand a score like this.
I'm surprised Ign gave a perfect score to a microsoft game. they always give em to nintendo gamesJulianking93 said:
Um, I thought IGN gave it a 9.5.
And are you saying that if something has Halo in the title, it can't have a good story? Have you even read any of the books or comics or seen any of the anime or short films? Halo has an incredibly deep story with literally 500 years of human history as well as thousands of years of alien history to play around in.
EDIT: Btw, I see that IGN UK gave it a 10/10. IGN UK is absolute dogshit. You can't trust them about anything.
Disregard for the complete package my shiny rainbow colored ass. Halo: Reach is one of the most complete games on the market. It has something for everyone except a video-game-alergic-movie-critic and an RPG-fanatic. It has a 10 hour campaign filled with fast-paced refined gameplay and intelligent detailed enemies, it has Firefight (which is basically Gears of War's Horde mode, but with the Covenant, difficulty multipliers, better AI, matchmaking support, and an insane amount of customizability), multiplayer (some of the best multiplayer, if not the best, on any console, as well as an amazing level of customizability), Forge (in which you can quite literally play anything from board games to building rube goldberg machines to platforming to building castles in the sky), and even some simple but polished space combat.Evil_Weevil said:
And are you saying that if something has Halo in the title, it can't have a good story? Have you even read any of the books or comics or seen any of the anime or short films? Halo has an incredibly deep story with literally 500 years of human history as well as thousands of years of alien history to play around in.
EDIT: Btw, I see that IGN UK gave it a 10/10. IGN UK is absolute dogshit. You can't trust them about anything.
OK, one thing that is really bothering me here is that you guys are whining about how it was given a ten and it didn't deserve it and you are saying 8 or 9 but you haven't played the game. I am not saying that the 10/10 was justified but don't try to arbitrarily assign a number to a game you haven't played yet.
My biggest problem with this thread really is that you guys are just nitpicking. Some people play games for the gameplay, some people play games for the story, i even have some friends who played Oblivion and Fallout 3 to make their character look as cool as possible, I don't understand it but if one of them gave New Vegas a 10/10 because they might be able to like customize everything or something, they might mention in their review that the shooting is imprecise but give it a 10/10 regardless then you (playing the roll of the generic internet trolls in this scenario) will go in and call fouls about how that is not a good way to play games but really, who are you to judge other people's ways of playing games. If they think the gameplay is fun enough to justify an imperfect story then let it be, don't storm the castle with angri faeces.
And also, what do you plan to gain from this, do you want IGN UK to be like, "Oh, crap you're right, 8.2/10" That isn't going to happen. You guys are just trying to feed your own internet dicks by pointing out meaningless flaws
My biggest problem with this thread really is that you guys are just nitpicking. Some people play games for the gameplay, some people play games for the story, i even have some friends who played Oblivion and Fallout 3 to make their character look as cool as possible, I don't understand it but if one of them gave New Vegas a 10/10 because they might be able to like customize everything or something, they might mention in their review that the shooting is imprecise but give it a 10/10 regardless then you (playing the roll of the generic internet trolls in this scenario) will go in and call fouls about how that is not a good way to play games but really, who are you to judge other people's ways of playing games. If they think the gameplay is fun enough to justify an imperfect story then let it be, don't storm the castle with angri faeces.
And also, what do you plan to gain from this, do you want IGN UK to be like, "Oh, crap you're right, 8.2/10" That isn't going to happen. You guys are just trying to feed your own internet dicks by pointing out meaningless flaws
Do they? I've only ever seen them steer towards saying everything on the 360 is the greatest thing ever.Skullkid4187 said:
That's what pisses me off most about them is their bullshit bias towards the xbox.
If you see any review of a multiplatform game, they will always make a point to say the 360 version is the best and hardly ever give sufficiant reason for doing so.
Ok, this thread kinda got side tracked. Do I believe that H:R should get a 10/10? no, but then no game ought to get 10/10 otherwise thats it, game over (hurhur).
What got to me more was the sheer disregard for a huge element of the medium as somehow of less worth than the soundtrack or the graphics. Both of these things have improved over the years and so has immersion undoubtedly, so why hasn't writing been given the scrutiny and serious appreciation it deserves? These three things ought to be the cornerstones of the medium, but instead we swallow the dross written on the back of a napkin in crayon and accept it as somehow what we deserve.
Will Halo sell squillions? yes, its Halo, it banks on its name and familiarity and what is without doubt a solid basis of gameplay and visual flair. I just wish we could move beyond this "Blockbuster" mentality of compromise in the service of profit.
What got to me more was the sheer disregard for a huge element of the medium as somehow of less worth than the soundtrack or the graphics. Both of these things have improved over the years and so has immersion undoubtedly, so why hasn't writing been given the scrutiny and serious appreciation it deserves? These three things ought to be the cornerstones of the medium, but instead we swallow the dross written on the back of a napkin in crayon and accept it as somehow what we deserve.
Will Halo sell squillions? yes, its Halo, it banks on its name and familiarity and what is without doubt a solid basis of gameplay and visual flair. I just wish we could move beyond this "Blockbuster" mentality of compromise in the service of profit.
Very true. I often completely ignore the scores nowadays because it's more along the line's of this: 1) 7.0, 2) 7.5, 3) 8.0, 4) 9.0, 5) 9.9, And those are all out of 10.Agayek said: