Has anyone else noticed the trend with TV and movies lately
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No. Just... no. TV sucks in my opinion. The only thing that's still awesome on TV is South Park. Movies on the other hand, only seem like they are getting better or worse, because more movies get made on average today than they did 10 years ago. In fact they are just as good/bad, but there's more of them so you have to sift through more bullshit to get to the good stuff. I guess you could say the same thing for TV, but it really sucks ass aside from South Park.
Lol no worries. And for the record I agree with your assessment of anti-mainstream types. My dad is one of those people who only like something if no one else does. You have no idea how annoying it is to watch a show like Chuck or 24 with someone like that complaining every 2 minutes. The way I see it, things are generally popular or "mainstream" because they are good/entertaining. It's not always the case, but more often than not. There's a reason why 24 is more popular than the Vietnamese film that showed an abused peasant girl playing with a grasshopper in a cage for 90 minutes straight.Sturmdolch said:
It's all opinion, I think Lost and 24 are total trash and you think there great.
You like the dark knight, I can't stand batman (or I as I call him the worst super hero ever, he's just a rich guy.)
I think comedy has gone right down the shitter little Britain, the league of gentleman, peep show, the office. Even comedy films scary movie (etc), blades of glory, anchorman, American pie etc etc
I think the maturity for TV and film is dropping like a stone, if I wanted to watch this kind of crap I would still be watching cartoon network and nickelodeon.
I swear the next big thing is going to be titled "drunk people
location)", just some film crew going to a certain town to record a bunch of drunk people do drunken stuff, "HA, he can't walk straight ..." then 'cos it will be so big there will be a movie, imaginitivly called "drunk people: the film" ... an hour and half of "lolz, he can't walk straight and he just pissed himself".
You like the dark knight, I can't stand batman (or I as I call him the worst super hero ever, he's just a rich guy.)
I think comedy has gone right down the shitter little Britain, the league of gentleman, peep show, the office. Even comedy films scary movie (etc), blades of glory, anchorman, American pie etc etc
I think the maturity for TV and film is dropping like a stone, if I wanted to watch this kind of crap I would still be watching cartoon network and nickelodeon.
I swear the next big thing is going to be titled "drunk people
location)", just some film crew going to a certain town to record a bunch of drunk people do drunken stuff, "HA, he can't walk straight ..." then 'cos it will be so big there will be a movie, imaginitivly called "drunk people: the film" ... an hour and half of "lolz, he can't walk straight and he just pissed himself".
Ever since that writers strike, a lot of stuff being produced from that point and on was REALLY REALLY bad.
I think it's only starting to pick back up NOW. I saw two episodes of The Simpsons and I really liked them both! Do you know how many seasons have gone by that were completely ignorable?
Movies have begun to suffer considerably because of what people are going to see. Movies based on games, games, sequels and massive reboots. Why are we getting new Spider-man actors? Toby McGuire was doing just fine. I can barely even think about which new movies are original. I've been torrenting movies from 1970~1990 when I was too young to watch certain movies and they're friggin' amazing!!
Someone go watch "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas. Looks low budget, it has that 80's look/feel (the scene where he's destroying a quick-e-mart because a Coke costs 85 cents "over charging" with today's prices is hilarious.)
The big problem with movies is that they're all being designed with trilogies in mind. TV series require you to watch 12 episodes. Next year, you get 12 more.
The biggest problem with movies; Actors who can't act. (Megan Fox syndrome.) People who look good on camera getting roles in movies.
I think it's only starting to pick back up NOW. I saw two episodes of The Simpsons and I really liked them both! Do you know how many seasons have gone by that were completely ignorable?
Movies have begun to suffer considerably because of what people are going to see. Movies based on games, games, sequels and massive reboots. Why are we getting new Spider-man actors? Toby McGuire was doing just fine. I can barely even think about which new movies are original. I've been torrenting movies from 1970~1990 when I was too young to watch certain movies and they're friggin' amazing!!
Someone go watch "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas. Looks low budget, it has that 80's look/feel (the scene where he's destroying a quick-e-mart because a Coke costs 85 cents "over charging" with today's prices is hilarious.)
The big problem with movies is that they're all being designed with trilogies in mind. TV series require you to watch 12 episodes. Next year, you get 12 more.
The biggest problem with movies; Actors who can't act. (Megan Fox syndrome.) People who look good on camera getting roles in movies.
I am afraid I am going to have to opt for the idiot option. Well perhaps idiot is a bit strong, but it is the term you chose. I feel both TV and film/cinema are going through a lull. While Dexter is addictive it is also quite shallow. Its now on season five and I wonder how much longer the premise can be padded out. In my opinion the seventies were the golden age of TV sitcom and the 80's of high quality drama (with a rather strong English bias).radioactive lemur said:
There have been recent classics of TV and Film; The Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men and in the world of film Brick, Marie Antoinette and The Departed but on hte whole nothing to compare to TV from the 50' to the 90's or film from the 30's to the 90's.
I think the problem here, is that people aren't able to see EVERY movie that's made in a year, so they only localize onto the "big name" productions. Maybe I'm just an Indie guy at heart, but a lot of the under-the-RADAR movies are excellent, especially within the last 10 years.
As for TV, if it's not a talent show (Star Search all over again), a show using celebs that aren't celebs (Palin), or a rehash of a reality show for yet another season, it rarely gets noticed. Just take a moment to look at how many original shows are started up on NBC, ABC, and CBS... that get cut. TV panders to the attention span, so writing has to suffer in turn.
As for TV, if it's not a talent show (Star Search all over again), a show using celebs that aren't celebs (Palin), or a rehash of a reality show for yet another season, it rarely gets noticed. Just take a moment to look at how many original shows are started up on NBC, ABC, and CBS... that get cut. TV panders to the attention span, so writing has to suffer in turn.
I guess I phrased that wrong... It's hard to describe, but all of those characters are very bland...dathwampeer said:
And I've only seen 24 once, but I thought it was retarded... It might be the direction though, I just assumed it was the acting.
I don't know if movies have been getting worse, but Cable TV (or whatever you call it) has done a lot to improve the quality of television. HBO, Showtime, etc. They've really helped set a higher benchmark, that other networks have followed.
Television has become increasingly cinematic, and less constrained by the bounds of advertisers and censorship, although there are exceptions to that, of course. There are still plenty of bad shows out there, but, on the whole, it's allowed people to tell more complex and interesting stories, while Hollywood, by contrast, is still frequently constrained by what executives think is 'marketable' or can turn a profit in the box office, not to mention the obsession with remaking shit.
Just my perspective.
Television has become increasingly cinematic, and less constrained by the bounds of advertisers and censorship, although there are exceptions to that, of course. There are still plenty of bad shows out there, but, on the whole, it's allowed people to tell more complex and interesting stories, while Hollywood, by contrast, is still frequently constrained by what executives think is 'marketable' or can turn a profit in the box office, not to mention the obsession with remaking shit.
Just my perspective.
Identity (2003)Exosus said:
Pieces of April (2003)
Osama (2003)
Kokoda (2006)
Lars and the Real Girl (2007)
The Kite Runner (2007)
Stop-Loss (2008)
A Single Man (2009)
Aaron... Albeit a Sex Hero (2009)
By all means, watch and then mail me hate mail if you don't care for them. That entire list are all movies that were overshadowed by bigger productions/releases, were small releases to start with, or just weren't noticed.
Like I said, I didn't watch them all.dathwampeer said:
From these you mentioned I only watched Dexter, and it has elements I have seen before, nothing bad about that as they are good elements, but it makes the show for me more creepy then interesting.
If you like them then that is awesome, I wish I found something that would peek my interest.
Leaving out Hannibal Rising (where Hannibal was the protagonist) you still have one huge issue: Taking a central character and switching him to the role of protagonist doesn't make something original. Dexter is essentially what you would have if you made Hannibal younger, less interesting, and more Neanderthalic then changed his moral compass from "people that diminish the world should die" to "people who commit crimes should die" (and made him quit eating people).dathwampeer said:
Oh, and being a sociopath doesn't mean you have post-conventional morality and still feel bad when you lock up the black cop guy and he gets bombed. Just while we're on the subject.
Weeds is basically Breaking Bad but with a sexy housewife as the lead and marijuana as the drug of choice. You should probably check it out - if you like Breaking Bad you'll almost certainly like Weeds.
Every movie which includes a well-dressed Lothario spy with a passion for cars who faces villains which would look overwrought in a comic book is a rip off of James Bond. Which is to say, things can only be similar to a point before one becomes a ripoff of the other. The only thing they lost between X-Files and Fringe was the creativity.