This doesn't matter in the slightest. A logical, well founded argument is a logical, well founded argument. Whether it's a Nobel prize winner or a mentally handicapped white supremacist means nothing. Arguments stand on their own as arguments.Treeinthewoods said:The Internet is a false place, I can't verify anybody here in any reliable way and I can't determine their motivations when dispensing opinions.Sir Thomas Sean Connery said:That just simply isn't true. Accreditation and influence has nothing to do with the validity of arguments. That's the true beauty of the internet.Treeinthewoods said:No, allowing strangers with no clear accredidation to influence you is weak minded.
You seem to be disregarding the idea of pure augmentation, or logic. Yes you don't know who any of these people are, so in turn you are no longer arguing with them your are simply interacting with the words on the page. If they use facts yes you should start to doubt and verify, but for the most part they don't use facts the just argue. If words on a page can sway you, with out any knowledge of who made, but simply with their own power than that is not a reason to distrust them, its one to trust them all the more.Treeinthewoods said:The Internet is a false place, I can't verify anybody here in any reliable way and I can't determine their motivations when dispensing opinions. The people who do have that kind of influence over me are rare and special, proven verifiably to be worth listening to. Even then my willingness to adjust a view is determined by the subject they are advising me on as much as by who they are. For example, I am more likely to follow my dad's financial advice then my grandmothers but when it comes to the raising of my daughter I am more likely to listen to my grandmother (assuming the two offer conflicting advice).
Again, it doesn't matter. Personal belief in an argument has no impact on the validity of the argument.[/quote]Sir Thomas Sean Connery said:This doesn't matter in the slightest. A logical, well founded argument is a logical, well founded argument. Whether it's a Nobel prize winner or a mentally handicapped white supremacist means nothing. Arguments stand on their own as arguments.Treeinthewoods said:The Internet is a false place, I can't verify anybody here in any reliable way and I can't determine their motivations when dispensing opinions.Sir Thomas Sean Connery said:That just simply isn't true. Accreditation and influence has nothing to do with the validity of arguments. That's the true beauty of the internet.Treeinthewoods said:No, allowing strangers with no clear accredidation to influence you is weak minded.
If you're referring to factual arguments, knowing the status of the individual giving the argument can actually hurt interaction. People will often accept information from reputable sources without any factual evidence whatsoever.
Evidence is its own argument and ignoring arguments based on evidence just because you don't know who is providing the evidence is just putting your hands over your ears to escape from facts.
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Basically if some Internet stranger says something that I don't agree with it just washes by me because I can't even be sure it's what they really believe.
No. I accept facts, only solid verifiable facts. And as I stated every subjective opinion is countered by someone with the opposite view. Since I know for a fact I am smart, successful and happy why would I care that someone feels differently about a subjective matter? I hold an anonymous persons opinion with zero regard, the greatest determiner of my opinions is myself, followed closely by the people closest to me who have earned the right to exercise influence over me.zerragonoss said:You seem to be disregarding the idea of pure augmentation, or logic. Yes you don't know who any of these people are, so in turn you are no longer arguing with them your are simply interacting with the words on the page. If they use facts yes you should start to doubt and verify, but for the most part they don't use facts the just argue. If words on a page can sway you, with out any knowledge of who made, but simply with their own power than that is not a reason to distrust them, its one to trust them all the more.Treeinthewoods said:The Internet is a false place, I can't verify anybody here in any reliable way and I can't determine their motivations when dispensing opinions. The people who do have that kind of influence over me are rare and special, proven verifiably to be worth listening to. Even then my willingness to adjust a view is determined by the subject they are advising me on as much as by who they are. For example, I am more likely to follow my dad's financial advice then my grandmothers but when it comes to the raising of my daughter I am more likely to listen to my grandmother (assuming the two offer conflicting advice).