Has COD ruined the FPS experience forever?

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guyroxorz

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While i agree to an extent with what you say, is it not a tribute to the CoD series? It's dominated a genre so severly that other games don't compare. I'll admit the more recent games haven't been fantastic but the original modern warfare has not stopped being an incredible game to play and no other FPS has lived up to it in my eyes. CoD shouldn't be judged for dominating FPS, instead other developers should try harder to dethrone CoD and prove that it can be done better. Given how shit black ops and MW2 were it shouldn't be too hard to take the crown from CoD?
 

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No, I disagree, CoD hasn't ruined the FPS experience. Why you ask? Because CoD is to shooters as what World of Warcraft is to MMOs. They found a formula that works for them and they are sticking to it. Why reinvent the wheel if you created it in the first place? Blame other companies who are trying to be CoD, CoD isn't at fault, it's the laziness of other developers who are trying to grab a piece of the CoD pie and won't go their own way because they are afraid of failure.
I also really don't know why people complain that much about CoD making no progress, they've added decent new sections to the FPS experience with each game (excluding BOPs). I honestly don't know where gamers expect the game to go. Most shooters are grab gun, see enemy, shoot enemy, reload. Give credit to the genre for adding various elements to actually flesh out a rather simple formula.
 

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I think the series has, too - but not so much within the PC gamer realm. Crysis, although being an interesting gaming experience, really wasn't that ground-breaking to begin with . . . but, it did set itself apart from other titles. I've still yet to see PC gamers compare the first Crysis to any of the CoD series.

One thing I am getting tired of seeing, though, are all the PC n00bz clamboring to the modding communities pleading and begging for modders to impliment CoD "features," or adjust in-game weapons to be more like those in CoD or some other such nonsense . . . or pleading for RPG elements (much thanks there, Fallout) into a game that simply does not fit with such mechanics.


The only thing I'll give CoD is that it can have a rather fun MP experience. Last good one for this, though, IMHO, was Modern Warfare. But still - the PC gamer realm compares a game's MP enjoyment not to CoD . . . but to TF2 :p

. . . and there's yet to be a title that kicks TF2's ass for MP.
 

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TheNewDemoman said:
zehydra said:
of course not, because CoD isn't THAT good.

There is a flaw though. My brother and his friend ONLY play COD BO there must be something.

I think it's unfair that every game is being beaten down, by COD

There are two responses two an FPS

1. It is too much like COD: "Wow what a clone, this sucks"
2. Not enough like COD: "Wow this game is horrible COD did (something) so much better."

Duke Nukem is the only COD killer out there -_-
I hate to burst your bubble, but Duke Nukem is not a COD killer. The problem being that it's soo damn old, and been in production soo long that anyone below the age of 15 has never heard of the franchise before now, and therefore doesn't give a damn about it. This is the same demographic that plays COD every night before bed. The 2 demographics barely overlap, with most of the support for Duke Nukem coming from an older generation of gamer, so I dare say that Duke Nukem is no where near killing COD, since COD's fans won't really be buying it.
 

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heavyblues said:
Call of Duty did, and didn't. but not forever.
Halo 2 started the phenomenon of regenerating health. Call of duty 3, I think, Picked it up and has pretty much run with it ever since. it makes designing the game easier since you don't have to worry about making an area too hard for someone with little health, but at the same time it murders the realism CoD had previously.
Actually, CoD2 had health regen. And if I remember correctly Halo 2 came out later than CoD2?
 

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Rainchild7 said:
gigastar said:
I do agree with you, but nothing is going to stop CoD in our lifetime. Duke Nukem Forever is the only game that stands a chance, if only because its already legendary.

But yeah, the sooner CoD dies alongside all the real-life based shooters the sooner we get back to fun shooters like the early 90's.

Todays capatcha: cingen tremula, make of this what you will.
Lol,Duke Nukem topping COD? not possible and not in this lifetime. And I'm not hating on Duke cause I grew up on that game too but at the moment the COD series is like a billion dollar gorilla, GORILLION! Unless Duke Nukem brings something completely fresh and innovative to the FPS genre, it'll be a whiles before the COD Gorillion goes down.
It still is, dont worry.
At the risk of sounding like a nostalgia nerd, DNF is promising to hit us in the face with the old style of FPS gaming. That is;
-You.
-Versus an army of something. Be they a real army, alien invaders or demons from Mars.
-With completely whimsical guns. Freezethrower anyone?
-And Rated M for Manly. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RatedMForManly]
 

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Let's be perfectly honest here, COD is huge and by rights when someone does something similar to something that you've already experienced you tend to want to compare to see if it would be worth it or indeed if it will be worth getting into or simply taking it back to Gamestop for some store credit.

Also Extra Credits has already done this, I forget which episode atm but they already pointed out games that are indeed FPS games but cannot possibly be matched to COD (at least sanely) examples include Bioshock, or TF2.
 

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There are two things that really bug me about the CoD franchise (since 4 anyway).

1) Whenever a new CoD game get's released, the monetary drain on the gaming industry is enough to cause other titles to loose sales. CoD sells so many copies that any game released within a month of it is going to loose sales because most people will be saving up for CoD. Yes it's putting money into the industry, but it's putting money into the pockets of people who don't care about making a unique and original game because they've found out that pandering to the base will make them a ton of money. Activision doesn't need any more money, support a smaller studio or publishing company.

2) The fanbase. I don't know how many people have asked me if I play CoD when they find out that I'm a gamer, but every single one of them isn't worth bothering with. I've met dozens of people who play a total of two games, the most recent Madden release and CoD. These people aren't helping the industry, they're harming it by causing demand for the most derivative and unoriginal games on the market. I could go on and bring up the online CoD community, but I'm pretty sure anyone who's going to bother reading this has already experienced them first-hand and me saying anything about them would just be preaching to the choir...
 

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What do you expect? Koticks a parasite draining the lifeblood out of the industry
 

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I don't think any of the recent call of duty games have ruined FPS' but I just think they charged 60 bucks for the same old crap. glad I haven't bought any of them since MW1
 

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CoD is a Half life clone which is a Doom clone which is a Wolfenstein 3d clone.

Everything is a clone of a clone these days and the only way to differentiate between them is the subtle gameplay differences and story.

Also, I think FPS games have gone about as far as they're ever going to go concerning innovation. Especially if these lame Call of Duty games keep coming out. Each of them is the same damn thing as the last. CoD has become the Madden of FPS titles. I mean, sure, you get your Portal every now and again, but those are too far and few between to account for much, sadly.
 

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That's just a generational thing. And quite a bit too localized and generalized at that.

Before Call of Duty, everything looked like Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Unreal, Half-Life... But worse or better.

Call of Duty's are just currently dominant games on the FPS market and those comments and views seem like ones of a teenager who knows one band and hates a pop singer just because everyone else does.

So: No. You can perfectly well evaluate and form opinions of FPS's, without mentioning a game that has C, O, and D in the title.
 

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zehydra said:
For a long time people were complaining about the same thing with Counter Strike. That most shooters could be compared to Counter Strike. Those days have gone because we've gotten new games.

To say that CoD has ruined the fps genre forever is absurd.
actually on PC at least CS is still played much more than Cod
CS1.6+CSS>all Cods together, according to Steam
just thought to mention it
 

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heavyblues said:
B-B-B-BLOODY SCREEN! /SO REAL/!
Oh god i laughed so hard at that! My brother showed me it the other day and we actually ROFLed "I am yet another enemy"

OT though i HOPE that duke nukem brings back the fun, i was hoping bulletstorm would but it hasnt so far :/ i miss my FUN shooters!!!
 

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The Call of Duty bubble will burst, most likely with the next instalment, and CoD will be over and the fps crowd will flock to a brand-spanking-new distraction.
Nothing will change.
 

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We should always be suspicious of genre consolidation. It's bad for the future of games in a way that is bad for the all the industry apart from a few companies and gamers are left out when they can only find samey "consolidated" games that they don't want. This isn't a new thing. It has been happening for ages.

Obsidian made a big mistake by making Alpha Protocol so much like Mass Effect in my opinion. Who out there who liked Alpha Protocol wouldn't have been happier with a game with the same story but much different gameplay?
 

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Well with DNF and Bulletstorm coming up, we should see at least some change. In the meantime I'm playing through DooM 1 and 2, and playing TF2 on the side.
 

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No it hasn't, CoD is a good FPS.
The ruining is being done by any developer that makes a game that is a "clone" of CoD, because it just won't be as good.
 

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to me it has, I know I have become accustom to the controls and seeing as since i only had fps's made with the COD name behind them when ever i try to play another fps im usually annoyed due to change in controls. this isn't a problem with cod as much and has more to do with the over hyped nature of the games i probably would not of brought black ops without the knowledge that they had brought back zombies i have zero interest in the story and even less interest in the multi player which is probably why 80% of the time when i do play online i am the lowest level on the team and sometimes the game this however could have something to do with me being shit though. would require more testing :)
 

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I think that CoD has definitely put a strangle hold on MULTIPLAYER yes sure. But that has zero effect on SINGLE PLAYER campaigns. There are a ton of much better SP FPS out there than CoD. Plus we're still going to see some slightly different games like Bulletstorm.