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RabbidKuriboh

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my dad walked in on me playing playing mass effect and said

"you still play them games? I thought you'd have grown out of them by now..."

i answered"that's like saying you grow out of films, or books"

then he walked off grumbling to himself
 

RandallJohn

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Years ago, I was playing the SNES version of Star Fox. I'd just begun, so I was still on the first stage, and my screen looked something like this:



As I played, my mother walked into my room, took one look at the screen, and said, and I quote:

"Is that the devil?"

I believe that was the first time in my life I ever facepalmed.
 

Vault101

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"You can play games on the computer?"

My heart sunk deep.
well I guess that depends who said it

in my case...no not really mum wasnt too happy about the amount I spent on Dead space 2 but I keep telling her that was a one-off,

interestingly id say my grama is very accepting of games compared to my parents I dont think they really care anymore
 

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my lecturer at college in my computer game design class hasn't really ever played any games in his life and is pretty anti-games, he seems to think there are lots of studies unequivocally proving that games are addictive and cause mental illness and violence.

He is even trying to make us write out reports on all these supposed health issues, personally im going to write a report on the positive influences gaming can have on behaviour.

Oh no, you found me!
 

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To quote my friend: "Video games can't tell stories."

He also once asserted a belief that "real" video games were bought in stores and "independent" games were all downloads...I facepalmed angrily.
 

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All I can really remember is a anti-video game article that I read in my school's newspaper. I wrote a letter to them responding to the arguments but I have yet to see it published. I still fucking have the file, too. Those bastards.
 

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CkretAznMan said:
All I can really remember is a anti-video game article that I read in my school's newspaper. I wrote a letter to them responding to the arguments but I have yet to see it published. I still fucking have the file, too. Those bastards.
awwww, I wanna see it! D:
 

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Diligent said:
My mom has this fixation with the idea that video games are only for children. She has, on multiple occasions in the past, witnessed me playing something (one of the silent hill games, god of war, bioshock) and said with a disgusted tone, "Are kids supposed to be able to play this?" or "Isn't this supposed to be for kids?"
Tell your mom I'm a teacher (or will be shortly) and I'm actually using video games in the class to teach students.
 

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There was this one time my uncle said "anyone who plays games into their 30s are reject losers still living with their parents and have no sense of responsibility," or something along those lines.

Since I'm only ten years away from that age group I wanted to argue against that, but then I stopped myself since he also believes that Obama is "an un-American Muslim and a Communist" and that homosexuals are "filthy and disgusting". Needless to say, anything I would've said would either be ignored or rebutted in a way that leaves me not wanting to continue and makes him think that he won. It also didn't help that my gramma, who believes the exact same thing, was there and I don't exactly want to alienate myself from a good portion of my family... at least not when it was Christmas.
 

zombiejoe

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FoolKiller said:
Diligent said:
My mom has this fixation with the idea that video games are only for children. She has, on multiple occasions in the past, witnessed me playing something (one of the silent hill games, god of war, bioshock) and said with a disgusted tone, "Are kids supposed to be able to play this?" or "Isn't this supposed to be for kids?"
Tell your mom I'm a teacher (or will be shortly) and I'm actually using video games in the class to teach students.
omg I want to be in your freaking class

and how shall you do this? I mean it's possible, I just want to know how you plan to use it.
 

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zombiejoe said:
FoolKiller said:
Diligent said:
My mom has this fixation with the idea that video games are only for children. She has, on multiple occasions in the past, witnessed me playing something (one of the silent hill games, god of war, bioshock) and said with a disgusted tone, "Are kids supposed to be able to play this?" or "Isn't this supposed to be for kids?"
Tell your mom I'm a teacher (or will be shortly) and I'm actually using video games in the class to teach students.
omg I want to be in your freaking class

and how shall you do this? I mean it's possible, I just want to know how you plan to use it.
I'm going to teach high school math and physics and a lot of gaming has to do with movements, angles, forces and other physics related material. For example, I wanted to discuss the concepts of friction and brought in a racing game and had students play a bit and discuss who was more successful with cornering and why.

There is actually a lot of studies going on about how video games can be used as a tool for learning.
 

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I've told this story before, to good reactions. It's worth repeating here.

Just after the release of Left 4 Dead 2, I was hacking my way through the mall in Dead Center with a samurai sword. My dad came in and saw the impressive new gore effects, the blood splattering the camera, the entrails dangling from my sword. I don't really care about the bloody effects, other than using them to judge whether a zombie's been hurt enough to go down and stop attacking. My dad noticed the blood and gore right away, and engaged me in a debate about the morality of killing scores of zombies.

"They're attacking me, dad. Of course it's ethical to kill them."
"What about the ones you're shooting at a distance? They haven't seen you yet."
"I'm justified attacking them, since all zombies are hostile monsters."
"Couldn't a game teach you the same values about, for example, Muslims?"

I was so speechless we sat there in awkward silence for a while, listening to the roars of zombies and screams of survivors. My dad's not a racist guy, but he just used a very awkward phrasing of an already awkward idea.
 

zombiejoe

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Chamale said:
I've told this story before, to good reactions. It's worth repeating here.

Just after the release of Left 4 Dead 2, I was hacking my way through the mall in Dead Center with a samurai sword. My dad came in and saw the impressive new gore effects, the blood splattering the camera, the entrails dangling from my sword. I don't really care about the bloody effects, other than using them to judge whether a zombie's been hurt enough to go down and stop attacking. My dad noticed the blood and gore right away, and engaged me in a debate about the morality of killing scores of zombies.

"They're attacking me, dad. Of course it's ethical to kill them."
"What about the ones you're shooting at a distance? They haven't seen you yet."
"I'm justified attacking them, since all zombies are hostile monsters."
"Couldn't a game teach you the same values about, for example, Muslims?"

I was so speechless we sat there in awkward silence for a while, listening to the roars of zombies and screams of survivors. My dad's not a racist guy, but he just used a very awkward phrasing of an already awkward idea.
wow...my kind of dad.

lol just kidding, but that's an interesting story
 

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zombiejoe said:
CkretAznMan said:
All I can really remember is a anti-video game article that I read in my school's newspaper. I wrote a letter to them responding to the arguments but I have yet to see it published. I still fucking have the file, too. Those bastards.
awwww, I wanna see it! D:
Be careful what you wish for...

"Funnily enough, I never really had the drive to write a letter to the editor; I guess I never cared that much about a group of teenager?s opinions. Anyway, it has been brought to my attention that someone in the school has expressed a want to limit free speech in the form of video games. It?s gathered an unprecedented but not entirely unexpected amount of negative opinions about the subject in general. I thought rather than dispensing such bile all the time, it would be nice to sample some for a change and perhaps take the opportunity to respond to the slightly more valid arguments. So without further ado: Go Team Bigot!

'When walking through the halls, you are likely to hear or any other wartime game being talked about? This was brought out on a school night? This is just one example of how war-based video games are taking over?' I?m personally jealous of your hearing prowess since I can?t even listen to all the discussions that happen around me in lunchtime unless I take part in the exchange of witty banters, and even then I still wouldn?t. Though, I do understand your concerns about students staying up after midnight to indulge in their hobbies, we should remember that such activity happened in the first place because of parental consent. The game in question is M-rated; retailers won?t sell a Mature rated game to minors under seventeen. Odds are, the students were probably people that have already gotten used to being conscious at midnight; we aren?t two-years-old. And it should be noted that staying up after midnight is what a lot college students do. So imagine it as warm-ups. Also, isn?t there a class that specifically teaches about the war that the noted game is centered on? Oh, yes: Vietnam.

'Video game violence? can lead into the real world? I could never stare at a screen for hours.' I recommend that you do not watch Titanic, The Godfather, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings, and Avatar in their movie forms since doing so requires staring at a screen for multiple hours. As for the video game violence leading to the real world claim, a recent study done by a university in Texas has found a correlation between violent video games and civic engagement. Yes, civic engagement; meaning voting and volunteering in your community. I think that?s good. And I personally think any media violence can lead into the real world if we?re not careful: Reagan Assassination Attempt (Taxi Driver), John Lennon Assassination (The Catcher in the Rye), and the Crusades (Bible). Guess which ones are taught in our school. Honestly speaking, if someone is not able to tell reality and ?unreality? apart, then they shouldn?t indulge in any media at all; violence is not mutually exclusive to video games.

'I witnessed three little boys? ?shooting? each other. What has happened to playing soccer? or less violent games?' The most popular video game series of all time is the Mario series; it?s not really violent. Additionally, Nintendo is thriving in their casual game support and is more successful than the über-masculine Sony and Microsoft consoles. And let me tell you a little secret here: There are these really popular genres of television shows called cop/detective and doctor shows, and I remember a war movie winning the Best Picture Academy Award which was called The Hurt Locker. We also must remember that some countries in the world, which won?t be named, have murdered their own soccer players for losing a game. Yeah, sports are definitely not violent. Another thing, from a news broadcast I have seen a year or so earlier, we are not as violent of people as we were during the early 20th century; violence has lowered since the advent of video games. Does anyone realize how to get rid of this ?shooting? game? Well, I think we should just get rid of armies, police, and the Second Amendment since they all support guns, which is the core element in ?shooting?.

'Children at a young age? should? handle problems verbally, not violently.' I agree. Yes, because saying things like ****** and ***** isn?t bad at all. Let?s move on. For the rest of the paragraph, I will say that even without video games, teenagers would still be misunderstood bastards that can?t consider other people?s opinions and angst about whatever stupidity exists in their lives. I call it the Caligula approach to life.

'I?m not trying to whine and complain?' Yes, you are. Earlier, the article actually said, 'I cannot deny I have? the popular game COD (Call of Duty) ? I did enjoy it ? which frightens me even more.' From what I can infer, this sentence means that enjoying violent video games is somehow wrong and immoral. And from the lack of anything else being criticized here, I suppose that you don?t think any other media can ever be as immoral. I don?t mind that you say that violent video games are bad, but at least stick to your ground or else you?ll seem like one of those people that will concede to any logical opposing argument. Or you can be called what everyone else wants to say: Hypocritical. If I said, 'All black people should die, but I?m not a racist,' would people say that I?m not a racist or a hypocrite?

'The whole issue here isn?t the amount of time on video games?' What did I just say about being a hypocrite?! '?but the type o?bladiblah.' Look, playing video games, reading books, watching movies, drawing pictures, etc. is perfectly fine. Do you really need to have some random teenagers or anyone with an authority, me included, say that whatever you do is bad just because they don?t understand what a new medium is like? Why don?t you roll over so they could stamp on the other side of your face? It is worth noting that whenever a new art form is taking a rise, controversy?s going to come along with it. If someone doesn?t understand it, then it?s plain and simple that they just don?t understand it. Remember those times when reading books, watching moving pictu?Oh, Christ! Why am I reminded those times when Elvis Presley and Monty Python were said to be corrupting our children's values? I understand, new things are scary things that can go Ackrewobbledingo when you least expect it. But the thing is video games have been around for around fifty years! At this point, we should consider video games as a newish art form. Yeah, sure, it took about a few hundred years for everyone to consider reading as 'not devil-worship', but we?ve learned by now, right?

?Ugh, I think the only way for video games to not constantly go into controversy is to have a new medium of art to take the heat instead. It?s probably going to be holographic 3-D pop idols or 3-D cereal; I?m looking at you, Hatsune Miku! On the other hand, once the video game community is off the hotpot, everyone can finally join hands, sing Kumbaya, and talk about how pulling through the dark times of controversy is just the rites of passage into being taken seriously as a form of art. This is why I want everyone over the age of fifty, by that time, to constantly try to cause controversy with whatever the new medium would be. Why should they get a break when everything else didn?t?

You know what, since everyone is so bent on the idea that violence in video games can lead to real world violence, I?ll say this. Eureka! I just found the correlation between video games and the rise in life expectancy. You see, when playing video games, you are less likely to run outside into the highway and get run over by a car or accidentally slice your hand with a kitchen knife. And you can?t fire real guns while playing video games. Oh my Buddha! That?s why people who live over a hundred years exist. It?s so brilliant and it makes perfectly logical sense! What are we to do with ourselves?! Oh, right. Let?s burn video games and see if real world violence continues. And now, I think I?m a bit too far off topic.

All in all, the article is just plain old messy. I couldn?t really see what the point of the entire writing was and the title had nothing to do with the message itself, since I thought the article was going to be about limiting free speech when I read the words in big font. This disorderly conduct made my own response disorganized... I don?t really know what else to say to that? Wait, wait, wait: Where?s the thesis?"

As you can tell, this is heavily Crowshawian-inspired. Well, mostly because the complainer sounded like a Nintendo fanboy but only for anti-videogames.
 

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CkretAznMan said:
zombiejoe said:
CkretAznMan said:
[All I can really remember is a anti-video game article that I read in my school's newspaper. I wrote a letter to them responding to the arguments but I have yet to see it published. I still fucking have the file, too. Those bastards.
awwww, I wanna see it! D:
Be careful what you wish for...

"Funnily enough, I never really had the drive to write a letter to the editor; I guess I never cared that much about a group of teenager?s opinions. Anyway, it has been brought to my attention that someone in the school has expressed a want to limit free speech in the form of video games. It?s gathered an unprecedented but not entirely unexpected amount of negative opinions about the subject in general. I thought rather than dispensing such bile all the time, it would be nice to sample some for a change and perhaps take the opportunity to respond to the slightly more valid arguments. So without further ado: Go Team Bigot!

'When walking through the halls, you are likely to hear or any other wartime game being talked about? This was brought out on a school night? This is just one example of how war-based video games are taking over?' I?m personally jealous of your hearing prowess since I can?t even listen to all the discussions that happen around me in lunchtime unless I take part in the exchange of witty banters, and even then I still wouldn?t. Though, I do understand your concerns about students staying up after midnight to indulge in their hobbies, we should remember that such activity happened in the first place because of parental consent. The game in question is M-rated; retailers won?t sell a Mature rated game to minors under seventeen. Odds are, the students were probably people that have already gotten used to being conscious at midnight; we aren?t two-years-old. And it should be noted that staying up after midnight is what a lot college students do. So imagine it as warm-ups. Also, isn?t there a class that specifically teaches about the war that the noted game is centered on? Oh, yes: Vietnam.

'Video game violence? can lead into the real world? I could never stare at a screen for hours.' I recommend that you do not watch Titanic, The Godfather, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings, and Avatar in their movie forms since doing so requires staring at a screen for multiple hours. As for the video game violence leading to the real world claim, a recent study done by a university in Texas has found a correlation between violent video games and civic engagement. Yes, civic engagement; meaning voting and volunteering in your community. I think that?s good. And I personally think any media violence can lead into the real world if we?re not careful: Reagan Assassination Attempt (Taxi Driver), John Lennon Assassination (The Catcher in the Rye), and the Crusades (Bible). Guess which ones are taught in our school. Honestly speaking, if someone is not able to tell reality and ?unreality? apart, then they shouldn?t indulge in any media at all; violence is not mutually exclusive to video games.

'I witnessed three little boys? ?shooting? each other. What has happened to playing soccer? or less violent games?' The most popular video game series of all time is the Mario series; it?s not really violent. Additionally, Nintendo is thriving in their casual game support and is more successful than the über-masculine Sony and Microsoft consoles. And let me tell you a little secret here: There are these really popular genres of television shows called cop/detective and doctor shows, and I remember a war movie winning the Best Picture Academy Award which was called The Hurt Locker. We also must remember that some countries in the world, which won?t be named, have murdered their own soccer players for losing a game. Yeah, sports are definitely not violent. Another thing, from a news broadcast I have seen a year or so earlier, we are not as violent of people as we were during the early 20th century; violence has lowered since the advent of video games. Does anyone realize how to get rid of this ?shooting? game? Well, I think we should just get rid of armies, police, and the Second Amendment since they all support guns, which is the core element in ?shooting?.

'Children at a young age? should? handle problems verbally, not violently.' I agree. Yes, because saying things like ****** and ***** isn?t bad at all. Let?s move on. For the rest of the paragraph, I will say that even without video games, teenagers would still be misunderstood bastards that can?t consider other people?s opinions and angst about whatever stupidity exists in their lives. I call it the Caligula approach to life.

'I?m not trying to whine and complain?' Yes, you are. Earlier, the article actually said, 'I cannot deny I have? the popular game COD (Call of Duty) ? I did enjoy it ? which frightens me even more.' From what I can infer, this sentence means that enjoying violent video games is somehow wrong and immoral. And from the lack of anything else being criticized here, I suppose that you don?t think any other media can ever be as immoral. I don?t mind that you say that violent video games are bad, but at least stick to your ground or else you?ll seem like one of those people that will concede to any logical opposing argument. Or you can be called what everyone else wants to say: Hypocritical. If I said, 'All black people should die, but I?m not a racist,' would people say that I?m not a racist or a hypocrite?

'The whole issue here isn?t the amount of time on video games?' What did I just say about being a hypocrite?! '?but the type o?bladiblah.' Look, playing video games, reading books, watching movies, drawing pictures, etc. is perfectly fine. Do you really need to have some random teenagers or anyone with an authority, me included, say that whatever you do is bad just because they don?t understand what a new medium is like? Why don?t you roll over so they could stamp on the other side of your face? It is worth noting that whenever a new art form is taking a rise, controversy?s going to come along with it. If someone doesn?t understand it, then it?s plain and simple that they just don?t understand it. Remember those times when reading books, watching moving pictu?Oh, Christ! Why am I reminded those times when Elvis Presley and Monty Python were said to be corrupting our children's values? I understand, new things are scary things that can go Ackrewobbledingo when you least expect it. But the thing is video games have been around for around fifty years! At this point, we should consider video games as a newish art form. Yeah, sure, it took about a few hundred years for everyone to consider reading as 'not devil-worship', but we?ve learned by now, right?

?Ugh, I think the only way for video games to not constantly go into controversy is to have a new medium of art to take the heat instead. It?s probably going to be holographic 3-D pop idols or 3-D cereal; I?m looking at you, Hatsune Miku! On the other hand, once the video game community is off the hotpot, everyone can finally join hands, sing Kumbaya, and talk about how pulling through the dark times of controversy is just the rites of passage into being taken seriously as a form of art. This is why I want everyone over the age of fifty, by that time, to constantly try to cause controversy with whatever the new medium would be. Why should they get a break when everything else didn?t?

You know what, since everyone is so bent on the idea that violence in video games can lead to real world violence, I?ll say this. Eureka! I just found the correlation between video games and the rise in life expectancy. You see, when playing video games, you are less likely to run outside into the highway and get run over by a car or accidentally slice your hand with a kitchen knife. And you can?t fire real guns while playing video games. Oh my Buddha! That?s why people who live over a hundred years exist. It?s so brilliant and it makes perfectly logical sense! What are we to do with ourselves?! Oh, right. Let?s burn video games and see if real world violence continues. And now, I think I?m a bit too far off topic.

All in all, the article is just plain old messy. I couldn?t really see what the point of the entire writing was and the title had nothing to do with the message itself, since I thought the article was going to be about limiting free speech when I read the words in big font. This disorderly conduct made my own response disorganized... I don?t really know what else to say to that? Wait, wait, wait: Where?s the thesis?"

As you can tell, this is heavily Crowshawian-inspired. Well, mostly because the complainer sounded like a Nintendo fanboy but only for anti-videogames.
* Slow clapping starts * Nice speech/letter, Do you by chance have the original article? I'd love to read it, What? Ignorance is the best form of entertainment after all.
 

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The most recent was my sister; I don't recall the original topic, but something was brought up that made her proclaim how useless video games were. "They don't teach you anything, they don't help people, they're pointless" - was along the lines of what she said.

I couldn't help myself, but after laughing in astonishment at her consistent naivety (she knows absolutely nothing about the gaming industry... she is an.. overly presumptuous sort) I pointed out the plethora of puzzle and logic games which aid in brain development, memory, mathematics etc.
She then retorded with "Yeah okay, but video games have done more harm than good." After which I pointed out the fact it's a medium that has something for everyone; it's more involving and engaging than film (which happens to be her career path of choice), it provides an escape from stress, etc. etc.

I didn't have time to come up with much more before she walked off with the typical response of whatever, and I highly doubt she paid attention to anything I pointed out, but her continued narrow-mindedness makes me both laugh and shudder.
 

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i went to a catholic school and the teachers there hated video games
 

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My father waves a pretty big "VIDEO GAMES ARE A WASTE OF TIME!!!" flag, all while his three children and his brother play WoW together. It's only a matter of time...("One of us! One of us!")
 

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Kyan Shea said:
My father waves a pretty big "VIDEO GAMES ARE A WASTE OF TIME!!!" flag, all while his three children and his brother play WoW together. It's only a matter of time...("One of us! One of us!")
I noticed that this is your first post :)

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