Have you ever considered suicide?

[wulfy42]

Life can be harsh and if your unlucky you can end up in situations where you long for death but do not have the option. Situations like that can be hard to recover from and the idea of death as a goal can stick with you throughout your life.

People often say suicide is the easy way out, or a cowards way etc but that is not true. I is often a very difficult decision and much harder then just staying alive and waiting for death to come naturally. In addition many people do just that while mindlessly walking through life and using up resources because they have no motivation.

The truth is though that usually suicide is a selfish act even if you do not have anyone who will be upset/hurt if you die. If you have no reason for living, why not use your life to help others who do? Help mothers who are trying to raise children by themselves, help homeless who can't get their feet under them or just help others who have suffered but still want to live by being there and understanding their pain.

Of course it's not easy to avoid suicide if that is what you really want, but if you are making a difference in other peoples lives it's quite likely you will eventually start to find joy in your own.

Time is an illusion and everyones life eventually ends. The time between now and when we all die will be gone in a blink of an eye but in that blink we can all make a large difference in how much suffering there is in the world. You don't have to dedicate your life to helping others, but your life will have meaning and it will be worth living if you try and make everyone else's life a bit better as you can. By friendly, help others as you can and the rest will work itself out.

I am not actually against suicide in many instances. If your in constant pain or do not have the possibility to do more then suffer through life....I think suicide is the best option to be honest. Life without meaning is just waiting, and if you add suffering into the mix then it is just torture. Find meaning in your life, even if it is only through others and suicide will not seem like the only option anymore.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

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Yes, as simple as that. The OP wanted my opinion. I've been in bad places. Worked my way out. I've been depressed. I found ways to escape it. As simple as that. Whether that's your experience or not wasn't the point. My point is I've always found goals to keep me on the straight and narrow.

I know what I want now. I know how to get them. I know the means needed. I know the methods necessary. I know my capabilities and what needs to be improved in order to meet criterion.

Simple as that o.o

As I said, I don't get suicide or depression. It's alien to me, so obviously whatever I'm doing is right in avoiding it/them <.<

Not everyone's so lucky. As I've explained, I don't have those goals, and when I did I had neither the means, methods or capabilities. I didn't even have the goals themselves. Imagine that. Imagine feeling nothing that drives you forward, drifing around aimless through time. And during that time all you get is annoyed, disappointed, anger, sadness more loneliness, nothing good except the rare moment of hollow joy that fades as quickly as it came.

A busted bunker.

When you have goals, even when you can't find your way towards them for a moment, it's different. But imagine having neither, not a shred of them. That's what I'm talking about.

Also, you say depression is alien to you, yet you say you've been depressed. Doesn't really add up.

Well of course I've been depressed in my life ... I've seen friends and relatives die, I've seen pets pass on. You'd have to be a cold and heartless bastard not to feel depressed when the spark of life dissipates from an animal sibling's pitiful carnal vessel.

But it is fleeting ... as time heals all wounds. I readjusted.

Regardless, it's nobody else's fault when you have no goals or pursuits. You either live life or you merely spend it. I'd rather the former rather than the latter. So I have goals ... write them on a calendar and when I run out of space I use sticky notes.

When I had roomies, one of them use to put stickynotes on these goals when I didn't do them calling me the foulest things you'll ever read with sad faces and teary eyes drawings. Good motivator to find and pursue goals o.o

Good ol' fashioned abuse and character assassination is an exceptional tool for motivation and self help.

 

[rokkolpo]

Sometimes I lose the point.
I just need to find it again.

Never really considered going through with it.

 

[Solid Reece]

There are ways to kill your self will little to no pain. Never will do it though

 

[Cowabungaa]

Well of course I've been depressed in my life ... I've seen friends and relatives die, I've seen pets pass on. You'd have to be a cold and heartless bastard not to feel depressed when the spark of life dissipates from an animal sibling's pitiful carnal vessel.

But it is fleeting ... as time heals all wounds. I readjusted.

Regardless, it's nobody else's fault when you have no goals or pursuits. You either live life or you merely spend it. I'd rather the former rather than the latter. So I have goals ... write them on a calendar and when I run out of space I use sticky notes.

When I had roomies, one of them use to put stickynotes on these goals when I didn't do them calling me the foulest things you'll ever read with sad faces and teary eyes drawings. Good motivator to find and pursue goals o.o

Good ol' fashioned abuse and character assassination is an exceptional tool for motivation and self help.

Imagine just being literally unable to write anything down on those sticky notes, anything whatsoever. Just...nothing comes up, sheer emptiness. Get it now?

Also, that feeling when someone passes away is not depression. That's being really sad. Depression is that inside of you there is nothing but an infinitely deep black void filled with either pain or just absolutely nothing whatsoever.

And what do you mean with that last phrase of yours? Character assassination and abuse? Que?

 

[Byere]

I've considered how I'd do it if I did it, but I never seriously considered actually doing it.

seconded...

There have been times when I've thought hard about it, even had the means to do it in many different ways over time, but even during the most self-hating moments, the only thoughts that come to mind as I intended to go through with it was how painful it would be for my family and friends, even moreso now that I have more very close friends nowadays. I wouldn't be able to put them through that.
Sounds kinda self-buffing, doesn't it? Like I'm telling myself I'm more important that I really am... and in truth, I probably am doing just that. Nonetheless, I wouldn't do something like that to those I care for and who care for me and I really detest those who would do that to their loved ones (though I admit that I'm a bit of a sadist and like the idea of culling the human species just a bit.)

 

[Steefness]

Suicide is selfish. No matter how down you are, killing yourself only invites pain into the hearts of all who care for you, and taking yourself out of their life may (key word here) get rid of your pain, but it only pushes it off on to other people. I can relate to people who have felt suicidal, I feel suicidal quite often and have attempted it several times in my life. After some time I finally came to the conclusion that it is selfish, and use that thought every time I feel suicidal, and it works. Think about your friends, your relatives, your pets, anything in this world that would be affected by your exodus, and take comfort in what you do for others.

 

[PatientZero]

Ive considered it and tried it. I failed (obviously)and im now at the point were I dont really care if I live or die. What stops me when I start considering it as a valid option is that I love my family and wont put them through that.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Well of course I've been depressed in my life ... I've seen friends and relatives die, I've seen pets pass on. You'd have to be a cold and heartless bastard not to feel depressed when the spark of life dissipates from an animal sibling's pitiful carnal vessel.

But it is fleeting ... as time heals all wounds. I readjusted.

Regardless, it's nobody else's fault when you have no goals or pursuits. You either live life or you merely spend it. I'd rather the former rather than the latter. So I have goals ... write them on a calendar and when I run out of space I use sticky notes.

When I had roomies, one of them use to put stickynotes on these goals when I didn't do them calling me the foulest things you'll ever read with sad faces and teary eyes drawings. Good motivator to find and pursue goals o.o

Good ol' fashioned abuse and character assassination is an exceptional tool for motivation and self help.

Imagine just being literally unable to write anything down on those sticky notes, anything whatsoever. Just...nothing comes up, sheer emptiness. Get it now?

Also, that feeling when someone passes away is not depression. That's being really sad. Depression is that inside of you there is nothing but an infinitely deep black void filled with either pain or just absolutely nothing whatsoever.

And what do you mean with that last phrase of yours? Character assassination and abuse? Que?

Abuse ... if I didn't do the goals I wrote on the calendar my roomy used to write the most awful of insults and libel on the calendar and on sticknotes she put over the dates I had originally penned with goals or pursuits.

It was a game she used to play. Funny as all hell. Foulest mind you'll ever meet, guaranteed.

And no, I don't want to get it. I don't want to imagine it <.< No sympathies ... it's your job to make your life meaningful. Shouldn't look to others to give you purpose, and you can't expect sympathies from people. Either get better or don't. Life isn't meant to be easy.

No point in living if it were easy ... things would be far too boring.

Find something you're good at and do it. Hell, better yet find something you're crappy at and spend your life trying to better that personal failing. I saw kids who did nothing with their lives, then complain about it once they grow up ... and what do you expect from others?

As per your response before the last one one, it's not about being 'lucky'. If somebody works hard at making their lives better, then they deserve commiserations if they fail. If someboldy doesn't even try or failed and then gave up, then what sympathies can be given?

 

[Cowabungaa]

Abuse ... if I didn't do the goals I wrote on the calendar my roomy used to write the most awful of insults and libel on the calendar and on sticknotes she put over the dates I had originally penned with goals or pursuits.

It was a game she used to play. Funny as all hell. Foulest mind you'll ever meet, guaranteed.

And no, I don't want to get it. I don't want to imagine it <.< No sympathies ... it's your job to make your life meaningful. Shouldn't look to others to give you purpose, and you can't expect sympathies from people. Either get better or don't. Life isn't meant to be easy.

No point in living if it were easy ... things would be far too boring.

Find something you're good at and do it. Hell, better yet find something you're crappy at and spend your life trying to better that personal failing. I saw kids who did nothing with their lives, then complain about it once they grow up ... and what do you expect from others?

As per your response before the last one one, it's not about being 'lucky'. If somebody works hard at making their lives better, then they deserve commiserations if they fail. If someboldy doesn't even try or failed and then gave up, then what sympathies can be given?

If you don't want to understand it, don't judge me. That's an incredibly rude thing to do and makes no sense to boot.

You say I don't deserve sympathies, but what the hell do you know? Who says I haven't tried and tried and tried? Who says I haven't looked for purpose and meaning? Who says I haven't tried to reach goals and looked for new ones when I failed? Who says I even want to look at other people for purpose, where the hell did I say that?

Remember the bunker-analogy I used? One can only take so many punishment, so many failures and disappointments. The batteries simply run out at one point.

 

[Majora Major]

I think of suicide all the time. In fact, I'm considering it right mow. Knowing that I'm an absolute wimp who could never really go through the commitment and stupidity that is killing myself are the only things stopping me.

How to not think like this, I'm not sure. I think that kind of knowledge would have to come from someone who doesn't feel like a complete and utter let down on a day-to-day basis.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yes. A couple of times. I couldn't go through with it though, I couldn't do that to my Mom and those that actually care about me.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

No, and I find it deeply weird that so many people here seem to have entertained notions of offing themselves at one point or another - the idea of ever even contemplating suicide is literally incomprehensible to me; I can't understand why anyone would ever want to do that.

Actually that's not true, I can certainly understand why terminally ill patients in essentially non-stop agony might want to off themselves, but wanting to kill yourself over some emotional funk you're in? I can't even remotely begin to relate, I can't wrap my head around how anyone could ever arrive at a terminal solution for what ultimately tend to be trivial issues in their lives; if you tell me you've contemplated suicide in the past, I'm going to assume something is deeply wrong with your brain, because that's the only explanation that makes any sense to me.

Let the record show I'm equally baffled by depression, and tend to view the "outpouring of human misery" that accompanies it as whining and moping, and I perceive 'sensitive' attempts to reach out to people with depression to be "coddling" - my answer to all those threads that various depressed people create would just be "man the hell up" if I wasn't aware that it's frowned upon. I'm kind of an asshole that way; since I can't relate I invariably attribute those sorts of emotional vulnerabilities to underlying character flaws, and I therefore have little to no sympathy for people whose lives are only tragic in their own minds.

I am mentioning all of this right now in the (possibly vain) hope of dissuading some irate depression sufferer who has entertained suicidal notions in the past from taking me to task for something I am abundantly aware of - I'm an insensitive jackass. That I come across as anything else (either via online or face to face interactions) is the product of both a remarkable application of self-control and the bit where I'm not especially malicious - I would never tell a depressed person that I know who came sobbing to me about how their life was so horrible that I think they're being a whiny spoiled little drama queen, because what's the point? I have no particular desire to make them feel worse about themselves, regardless of how I might perceive their behavior and mental state; I'm just not really equipped to make them feel better.

 

[Hiikuro]

I'm seemingly incapable of conjuring even the thought. Even though, up to and including last year, I have at times been very depressed. At its worst my parents even called the doctor in fear that I would do it, which really took me by surprise.

No matter how down I get, some kind of mechanism kicks in to protect me. I'm so very thankful for it :'). It feels like my subconscious really really loves me.

 

[Disaster Button]

Yes, I used to contemplate it a lot a over the last few years. I tried it once too and ended up spending the night in hopsital after an overdose. After that I got better and haven't thought about doing it again since then and that was just under a year ago.

Note: I suffered from heavy social anxiety and depression at the time for a good 4 or 5 years.

 

[Toaster Hunter]

Yes, if only for a hypothetical. I would never actually do it though.

 

[Geekosaurus]

Not really. But I am curious about death.