Have you ever loved a series/francise so much that you DIDN'T want to see it continue?

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Kinitawowi

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Bayonetta. I'd just come to terms with the fact that the franchise had gone before it was announced that it's being revived on a system I have precisely zero other interest in.

Skins' cast cycling model means that it gets this every two years from a lot of people; for me, the first cast were good, the second cast were epic, and the third cast can go and die in a fire.
 

Harrowdown

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Oh god yes. Every time I see someone calling for a second season of Firefly, I just want to punch that person. It's far too late for it now.
 

NBSRDan

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That's how I react to 90% of series I like. Sequels and other extentions have a such a history of failure that the automatic reaction isn't "yay there's more!" but instead "please don't fuck it up."
 

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Neverhoodian said:
I didn't want Halo 4, much less an entire new trilogy. The fight was finished in Halo 3. All the loose ends had been tied. There was closure. I didn't mind ODST and Reach (I enjoyed them more than Halo 3, actually) since they were an offshoot and a prequel respectively. There was no need to continue the story past Halo 3 though, yet Microsoft did anyway, probably uttering these words:

I just can't bring myself to play Halo 4 because of this. I'm sure it's solid multiplayer experience, but I play Halo for the single player campaign and the story (Yeah I know, I'm a freak of nature).
Don't. Play. 4. I'm easily one of the biggest Halo fans ever, having all the games and Halo Legends and loving every bit of it (Yes, I loved Wars, ODST, and Reach, and I've already acknowledged some of their flaws). Halo 4 is literally killing my childhood and converting me into more of a CoD player, something that I would have laughed would never happen a year ago.

The Multiplayer doesn't feel Halo. At all. The story takes the established canon of the Bungie Halo and beats it over the head. To give a prime example of this: Human-Forerunner War.

And YES, I know that technically they "explain" all of this in all of the Waypoint terminals and all of the books they released since Bungie departed. NO, they did not explain anything. They retconned everything so they could make their new franchise, much like how RoosterTeeth retconned Church in Season 6 onward by explaining he was an AI rather than a ghost.

But the problem with all of that is that Red vs. Blue Season 1-5, while having a story, didn't necessarily "have" a story. And that the retcons that were done to it didn't invalidate or change any key points in the first five seasons. Most importantly, the retcons didn't make the season not make sense. How do the Forerunners lose to the Flood if they have the Force and incineration weapons? Why the fuck would they try to preserve a species they were at brutal war with, leading to their ultimate demise (and don't tell me it was for the perfect indexing of galactic life or some crap like that; it makes no sense that you'd try to save the enemy that basically doomed your entire race).

Not to mention that there's a lot of problems with the story, not counting the whole Forerunner crap. Why is Del Oro the bad guy for following UNSC protocol, for starters? Master Chief's actions are in a direct violation of UNSC protocol AND threaten the most important UNSC ship and her crew, and he's the GOOD GUY. The story is a mess.

And yeah, the Multiplayer... just sucks. It's not Halo. At all. I'm just gonna leave it at that.



As you can guess, I wish Halo died at, at the very least, Reach. Mass Effect also comes to mind. tbh, I'm a tad bit concerned about Finding Dory, given how Cars 2 wasn't exactly great compared to Cars 1, but I'll probably see it all the same.
 

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Not really. I mean, I think MOST shows with more than 3 seasons eventually go down the toilet, but obviously someone's still watching.

I'm not a big fan of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII, but I don't honestly mind it that much either. As long as I pretend that everything outside the original FF7 is non-canon, the games are actually kinda fun. Butcher the plot, why don't you? See how much I care!

I guess if I really had to pick one, then MLP:FiM. I've been less and less impressed with each new season. At this point I think it's become too self-aware, killing most of the charm season 1 held for me. The animation and voicework is still fantastic, but I'm just not feeling it.
 

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Alien, in all forms.

The third movie was flawed, but it rounded the franchise out, while in terms of games, only the first Aliens vs Predator has really stood out as good, the rest are at best mediocre.

The Simpsons needed to end at Season 10. No surprise that that was when Groening left. There have been funny episodes since then, but the charm of the show was it's witty, but gentle humour. I feel it's too blunt now.

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I don't want Fallout to continue in Bethesda's hands.

And even with a competent studio...where is there to go from New Vegas? They've gone so far ahead from the initial complete devastation and lawlessness in FO1 by taking such huge leaps in time from game to game. There's proper societies and governments now. NV was just BARELY post-apocalyptic. If it continues now, I think it'll really just be a sci-fi series. And it could still be good, but the whole "wasteland" thing will be pretty much gone.

I think New Vegas, with its ending that basically has you deciding what direction civilization in the wasteland will take from here on out, is a fitting end to the series. 3 entries is a good amount for any franchise anyway.
The thing is that the series keeps trying to hold onto the post-apocalyptic setting long after it should have died out.

The annoying thing for me is that there's far too many series that focus on such a setting, but there are almost none who look beyond that point in history and try to see how civilization would develop after. It would be like setting a game series in Post-War Europe and keeping much of the land and cities devastated and full of rubble into the the 21st Century.

Fallout needs to show evolution and begin to reveal the odd, unique societies have survived and developed and how they interact.

The sad thing is that the original FO 3&4 would have gone in this direction and also stuck to the original flow of the series which was expanding the story further and further away from South California. Instead we had both forced into NV which put the franchise back on track, but cut so much and made the game feel so rushed.
 

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NBSRDan said:
That's how I react to 90% of series I like. Sequels and other extentions have a such a history of failure that the automatic reaction isn't "yay there's more!" but instead "please don't fuck it up."
That's how I feel about just about everything I've ever enjoyed, fiction wise. Whenever something new is announced my reaction isn't "oh boy I can't wait." It's "Oh shit! I hope this doesn't fuck everything up." And you know what? That is pretty damn sad. ¬__¬
 

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I used to love Fairly Oddparents, but it's gone on way too long. They should've ended it with the Channel Chasers movie (which was also, coincidentally, the most perfect ending the series could possibly hope for), and before they jumped like three sharks.
 

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House.
I love that show, and I'm really glad it ended when it did.

Okay, that's a lie. By the time season 6 ended I was like "Alright, this show has 2 years left."
And I was right.
Unfortunately they FINALLY got the team dynamic right in season 8 so they ended with the best season television ever, and it was sort of a Kick in the balls.


I'm feeling that way with Breaking Bad (I've only seen up to the end of season 4) and I'm like "It's over! There's only one thing I can think of that they could bring up again and they're not going to be able to stretch a whole season out of it!"

So I'm tense about Season 5 of Breaking Bad.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
I didn't want Halo 4, much less an entire new trilogy. The fight was finished in Halo 3. All the loose ends had been tied. There was closure. I didn't mind ODST and Reach (I enjoyed them more than Halo 3, actually) since they were an offshoot and a prequel respectively. There was no need to continue the story past Halo 3 though, yet Microsoft did anyway, probably uttering these words:

I just can't bring myself to play Halo 4 because of this. I'm sure it's solid multiplayer experience, but I play Halo for the single player campaign and the story (Yeah I know, I'm a freak of nature).
For what it's worth, You've actually got it wrong there.

The multyplayer (And gameplay in general) isn't very good
But Halo 4 has the best story the series has ever seen. (Until they talk to the Librarian, then it just gets stupid)

343 actually knows how to write, it might surprise you.
 

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Toy Story, hands down. It has the absolute perfect ending and any movies afterwards would undermine that. I still LOVE the Toy Story shorts, though. God, I never want them to stop making that.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Yeah maybe Bond. Maybe. I just don't like how they've screwed all the cool gadgets over and even made references that cool gadgets are not "2012" enough :(

Katawa Shoujo? I think a second one would just be automatically worse because there'd be no Hanako. I mean it's Hanako ladies and gentlemen. She's like the best thing to happen in gaming history.

Anyway, as far as I know the dev team for that game was a load of randomers that collaborated over the idea of a VN with disabled girls. How they managed to make it classy and incredibly well written is beyond me.
Hanako or not, as long as they didn't make it Yamaku-centered then it could be good. It would be a repeat of the story, even if it had new characters. For 4leaf to develop a good VN would be for them to reinvent everything. That being said, one of their concepts for KS2 was Hisao being paralyzed from the waist down aside from his original heart condition, and seeing the story be presented differently as such would be, in my opinion, pretty cool. In any case, anything 4LS makes can't be too bad; they give their characters humanity and depth...thats what makes it so well-written.
 

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valium said:
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Probably Final Fantasy. At the rate it's going, I really want it to stop. It's a bad bad slow death.
Way past that, it has been exponentially downhill since 6. Few exception with minor bumps, 9 and 12.
For me, up to 9 it was excellent. Everything from 10 and later was catastrophic.
 

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House, the last 2 seasons started to annoy me since they were getting to much into his emotions and relationships. I am glad they ended it when they did the support characters were becoming more interesting.
 

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Honestly, No. If they can continue making a great series then I'm all for it. Unfortunately that's not how it works and every series goes down the slimy hole of banality or pure utter shit eventually. I'll say it like this, I rather they didn't continue a series when the original writers/developers or whatever aren't involved.
 

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Stargate Sg-1, seasons 9 and 10.

Don't get me wrong, Ben Browder and Claudia Black are great actors, but the synergy was just...off...between the members. That and the Ori just weren't interesting as villains. Although to be fair, there were two episodes in that ark that were absolutely hilarious.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Katawa Shoujo? I think a second one would just be automatically worse because there'd be no Hanako. I mean it's Hanako ladies and gentlemen. She's like the best thing to happen in gaming history.
I prefer Lily.

OT: Not really. I can't really think of any series that I'm a fan of that I would like to end, at least at this moment.
 

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I agree with the sentiments, though not necessarily the reasoning, of the people saying Fallout with Bethesda still in control.

I'd much rather someone like CD Projekt Red or Obsidian (in a perfect world where they have money and time) to continue the franchise. Bethesda doesn't have anywhere near the creative spark, competence of design or writing depth to continue a Black Isle franchise, especially when they do so much to divorce it from the established mythology. Otherwise I'd just let Fallout: New Vegas and its expansions be the finale of the series.
 

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Back when Sonic Adventure came out, I was really into Sonic. Much like today's Final Fantasy Classics Elitists, I didn't like where things were going & prayed it would just stop. Today I see the Sonic franchise as a zombie carcass with missing limbs & empty eye sockets, obstinately dragging itself across the lawn. I'd say Spoony felt that way about Ultima.

Hmm, what else?... I didn't like ANY of the Ghostbusters cartoons beyond Real Ghostbusters.