Have you ever used Cocaine?

[flarty]

Yes done cocaine on more than one occasion and enjoyed it.
Prohibition does not work, it didnt work with alcohol and it doesnt work with any other drug, it just drives it underground and in to the control of criminals.
If we were to legalize all drugs it does not mean everyone would automatically start shooting heroin and smoking meth.
If you look to portugal and how possesion isnt crime for roughly 10 years now, theres less stigma attached to drug use and addiction so more people are willing to get treatment.

 

[RJ 17]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

 

[Combustion Kevin]

didn't ya hear? coke's for rich people.
myself, I'm usually up for a spacecake piece, but nothing heavier than that.

I do think government regulation's the key, though, outright forbidding it only serves cartels and other criminals, placing the production under inspection and distribution in specialised stores, just like a liqour store, would solve many problems.
not all, I think there may be things I'm not thinking of, or problems that aren't apperent yet, but I think it's a step forward.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Nope! I smoked weed quite a bit when I was a bit younger, and one time there was a bit of crack in that weed, but that was an accident and not intentional. So that was really the extent of my illegal drug use. Most hard drugs are a little too damaging and potentially chemically addictive for me. Additionally I developed depersonalization when using psychedelics, which is why I've stopped smoking weed. Not feeling like you're in control of your body is pretty fucked up...

 

[Unsilenced]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

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Um...

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

 

[AndyRock]

the only drug I can think about being reasonable to legalise is weed, but only because it's ill-effects are less than alcohols, and so many people do it anyway, they're just giving money to weed farmers. Cocaine is another matter entirely, it has the potential to do massive harm in a short space of time, and the majority of people I know have their heads screwed on right, and so don't use it, so legalising it has a much larger potential for harm. The fact that drug cartels are making money from cocaine makes this a sort of dilemma, but I firmly believe that it should never be legalised.

 

[flarty]

Oh man!

I open a random thread and I find it full of hard drug endorsements. I'm not gonna say the usual "I don't wanna live on this planet anymore" but the level of acceptance simply surprises me. Perhaps it's a cultural thing like east vs vest.

Do you wanna know what I think?

DRUGS MAKE YOU WEAK!

If you want to live in a fantasy fairy tale world where you have no control over your body or thought process...well, be my guest. You're not hurting anybody...or are you?

Every time you buy illegal drugs you support a system that plagues this world. You support a system that kills tens of thousands of people each year.
From South American self-styled freedom fighters who fund themselves with drug money down to smartly dressed husslers who engage in human trafficking and use drugs to keep their slaves in check, do you really want to stand next to these people and be a part of the system?

In college I studied Sociology and I had some courses in Deviant Tendencies (most of which were drug related) so that makes me a bit more vulnerable to this subject. Once you talk to a few people who work inside the drug-prevention/enforcement system, once you hear a few of the horror stories...it's enough.

Also...you think you're safe because you're healthy?
When I had an appendicitis operation some years back I found out that I'm allergic to a certain compound in the anesthetic. I had a glottic spasm and almost died, luckily I was on the operating table. Do you know where else you can find that compound? In you average, day-to-day, eat'em-like-candy ecstasy.
This kind of thing could happen to anybody. You're not dealing with real chemists here either so the risks are even higher.

There's no such thing as recreational drug use.

While you can argue that a glass of red wine 2 times per week is good for the circulatory system, drugs have no good side.
Think about this: a hard antibiotics treatment can end up giving you an ulcer. And this is a prescribed, tested drug. Just imagine what street drugs can do to you .

Doing drugs when you're not suffering from some kind of medical condition has ONLY cons. Therefore it is illogical to use drugs. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems really simple to me.

To OP: no, cocaine should not be made legal. Drugs in general should only be used when presciped by a doctor for a serious medical problem.

It's not my intention to preach. You're free to do whatever you want.
I can only hope for one thing: that this message reaches someone who's on the fence about drugs and convinces him/her not to do it.
That is all.

no offense, but you sound like someone who has no experience with drugs or researched anything about the matter either.

 

[RJ 17]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

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Um...

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

You said yourself, "cocaine is refined from a plant". That means it's man-made. There's no cocaine plant out there you can go out, find, and do some lines from. It has to be prepared, therefore it is a drug.

The plants/fungi/etc out there that fuck you up, if taken by themselves, aren't drugs...they're plants/fungi/etc that can fuck you up.

And I never said "natural = good", I said "Weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements". Specifically: weed. I don't believe I ever made mention of any other plants/fungi/etc, nor did I ever make the connection that we should go out and start eating/licking/sniffing everything we find in nature.

In short, all I said was that weed wasn't truly a drug, and I stand by that.

 

[Limecake]

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

most drugs are refined from some sort of plant or fungus. Heroin, Cocaine, LSD are just concentrated versions (or in the case of LSD diluted version) of the plant/fungus. Chewing the leaves from the coca plant is not even close to snorting cocaine.

OT: I've never done Coke, it's never interested me and frankly I think putting anything up my nose is pretty nasty (let alone coke or heroin).

but I think all drugs should be legal, including the dangerous ones like heroin. It would actually reduce crime and allow us to better monitor drug use and it would greatly increase our ability to study the drugs and it's effects.

but baby steps, I'll settle for legal pot even if I don't smoke it anymore.

 

[The Funslinger]

I did a line once, didn't really feel anything.

Little bit more energy I suppose...but I wasn't impressed overall. Maybe I just didn't do enough

Well, there's only one way to find out!

OT: Yeah, pot has become almost universally accepted and the only people I've met still demonizing it passionately are the sort who like to feel superior, and are usually quite stuffy stick-up-their-arse sorts anyhow.

The edgy new thing for all the drug kiddies round here these days is MCAT, which I'm pretty sure is distilled from some kind of cleaning fluid. Skivvy as fuck. Beyond that, the sources people probably get them from are worrying. All this and more is why I wouldn't try it ever.

If I want to eat baby laxatives I'll visit the chemist.

 

[RustlessPotato]

Snip 2: The Snippening .

Let me first repost what I already said to another guy.

"It's true now. That's why i was imagining a world where the government would have total control of the hard drugs supply and you would only be allowed to use it in appointed buildings where at all times they would be watched when high and always have acces to rehab. If we would get that, there wouldn't really be so much a need for a black market where you would get those drugs illegally and the drugs would be of better quality altogether. Though you always have some stuff no one should ever use, like that "krokodil" drug in Russia.

I know it's not a reality and i'm not advocating drugs. But I find the attitude of some governments on them a bit dated. When their "war on drugs" is failing, they should look for an alternative (looking at you, U.S of A). Why not legalise it and tax it ? Especially weed ? Especially if you can get it by saying you hurt your back ? I mean even Colombia is to enact the legalization of drugs.

There are probably some factors i'm not aware of though, because i'm from Belgium, so feel free to educate me. "

I know my view is built on a Utopian world and what i was describing is highly unrealistic, But i'm still against making everything illegal. When your system fails, you have to change it. People are going to be able to get it anyways, so you have to be able to control it some ways, why not let the goverment, instead of buying it from the cartels (I never implied they'd do that), manufacture their own drugs. No need to buy it from the cartels. I wouldn't mind drugs being legal under full and total control of the government.

I mean, alcohol was illegal at one point.

I know the repercutions of drugs, I study Biomedical Sciences.

Also, my captcha is Patch of Grass xD.

 

[flarty]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

...

Um...

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

You said yourself, "cocaine is refined from a plant". That means it's man-made. There's no cocaine plant out there you can go out, find, and do some lines from. It has to be prepared, therefore it is a drug.

The plants/fungi/etc out there that fuck you up, if taken by themselves, aren't drugs...they're plants/fungi/etc that can fuck you up.

And I never said "natural = good", I said "Weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements". Specifically: weed. I don't believe I ever made mention of any other plants/fungi/etc, nor did I ever make the connection that we should go out and start eating/licking/sniffing everything we find in nature.

In short, all I said was that weed wasn't truly a drug, and I stand by that.

You do realize theres very few natural strains of weed left in the drug trade?

 

[Obsideo]

I've done it... 4 times, if I remember correctly.

The first three, I felt a slight buzz but it wasn't as crazy as I was expecting. The fourth time, it was mixed with something else and it made my girlfriend and I go crazy and we had sex for 5 straight hours.


Keep in mind that these are all months apart and I haven't used it since then, which was around 6 months ago. I like it.

 

[RJ 17]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

...

Um...

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

You said yourself, "cocaine is refined from a plant". That means it's man-made. There's no cocaine plant out there you can go out, find, and do some lines from. It has to be prepared, therefore it is a drug.

The plants/fungi/etc out there that fuck you up, if taken by themselves, aren't drugs...they're plants/fungi/etc that can fuck you up.

And I never said "natural = good", I said "Weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements". Specifically: weed. I don't believe I ever made mention of any other plants/fungi/etc, nor did I ever make the connection that we should go out and start eating/licking/sniffing everything we find in nature.

In short, all I said was that weed wasn't truly a drug, and I stand by that.

You do realize theres very few natural strains of weed left in the drug trade?

Indeed, but it is not necessary to do anything to the plant. You grow it, you clip it, you smoke/vaporize/whatever it. Can you do stuff to it? Sure, but it's fine as-is.

 

[flarty]

This thread is likely going to be locked down...they don't like talking about drugs on this forum.

But the topic hasn't been locked yet so I'll say this:

Drugs are man-made substances, weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements".

...

Um...

Ok, disregarding the whole idiocy of the "natural means it's good" thing (Lolopium), cocaine actually is refined from a plant as well.

There are plants/fungi/etc out there that can fuck you up. They're still drugs. They're psychoactive, therefore they are drugs.

You said yourself, "cocaine is refined from a plant". That means it's man-made. There's no cocaine plant out there you can go out, find, and do some lines from. It has to be prepared, therefore it is a drug.

The plants/fungi/etc out there that fuck you up, if taken by themselves, aren't drugs...they're plants/fungi/etc that can fuck you up.

And I never said "natural = good", I said "Weed grows naturally. As such, weed is not a drug and there shouldn't be anything that keeps people from enjoying their "herbal supplements". Specifically: weed. I don't believe I ever made mention of any other plants/fungi/etc, nor did I ever make the connection that we should go out and start eating/licking/sniffing everything we find in nature.

In short, all I said was that weed wasn't truly a drug, and I stand by that.

You do realize theres very few natural strains of weed left in the drug trade?

Indeed, but it is not necessary to do anything to the plant. You grow it, you clip it, you smoke/vaporize/whatever it. Can you do stuff to it? Sure, but it's fine as-is.

they cross pollinate strains to create stronger weed. weed has increased in strength stupendously since the days of the hippies in the 60's hence why they believe it can cause psychosis in certain individuals, which while still up for debate i definetly believe it to be true after smoking a fair bit of it myself.

Not even to mention gangs sprinkling glass onto the buds to increase wieght.

 

[cookingwithrage]

Legalize and regulate all of them From heroin to weed. The most intoxicating drug on the planet is already legal, as is the deadliest (alcohol and cigarettes respectively).

"why can't anyone do what they want to themselves?"

If say we only legalized drugs now (not opening up state sponsored grow ops etc.), we would basically supporting an enormous criminal infrastructure, pretty much making us part responsible for bloodshed going on in South America right now.
..Although we did lose the war on drugs before we started...

I still think we should legalize everything, just be smarter about it.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Haven't used it. There was an oportunity at this a party but I didn't really feel like it.

Don't really think it should be legal, it's way too deadly. I mean is it even possible for a coke user to survive for more than a couple of years at most? There's also the issue of decreased productivity, and considering that the population of my country is aging we have enough problems as it is. So it's just not a very good idea.

Although you have to wonder how much banning drugs actually affects whether or not people will use them.

 

[Dags90]

You do realize theres very few natural strains of weed left in the drug trade?

Please define "natural strain", because I believe by the definition you're using would put almost all crops into the "unnatural" category. Selective breeding has occurred for every domesticated plant, it's integral to the process of plant domestication. I'm not yet aware of anything like transgenic weed.