Have you noticed that in some of the best films of all time, women play small roles or are tomboys?

[me and my dog]

Her accent. The fact that she had a deep voice. She was not exactly a princess.

...Eh?

And that's enough to lump her in with Ripley and Clarice from Silence of the Lambs?

And in fact, why are they there anyway? Ripley I can sort of understand, although her act as a surrogate mother isn't exactly masculine. Clarice though? What does she do? Solve problems, act independently, fire a gun? Not exactly strictly male activities.

I'll be honest, I think you're clutching at straws here. What you're doing is saying there's a lack of obviously feminine and submissive women in films. I don't think you could call any of the above tomboys, just because they're pro-active.

HAVE YOU SEEN SILENCE OF THE LAMBS?. Clarice is a women in a mens world, of course she going to act tomboyish.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Every time you list a movie with a female character you always say that she was overshadowed or give an excuse as to why she doesn't count.
And heres some movies with Female leads:
Inglorious Basterds
Kill Bill
Resident Evil
The Matrix
Doomsday
The Mummy
Terminator

 

[me and my dog]

Umm, the movies you name basically have male protagonists and that reasoning is enough for you to include them in the list, because the protagonists overshadow the supporting characters.

You use the word "overshadowed" a lot, but that really doesn't mean the movies are sexist nor does it imply any kind of coincidence.

Pretty much this.

I'm sure, given time, that the participants of this thread could easily name an equal amount of films with females as protagonist and all men being either absent, inconsequential or feminine.

Also, explain to me how the main character of Misery was tomboyish? She used a gun? Can't think of much else.

Her accent. The fact that she had a deep voice. She was not exactly a princess.

I think you're being more damaging to women than any perceived lack of female characters.

Do even know what a tomboy is? Go on Wikipedia,type tomboy. A girl who engages in activities that are often physical in nature. In Annie Wilkes case, working with guns,working on a farm,MURDERING.

 

[me and my dog]

Every time you list a movie with a female character you always say that she was overshadowed or give an excuse as to why she doesn't count.
And heres some movies with Female leads:
Inglorious Basterds
Kill Bill
Resident Evil
The Matrix
Doomsday
The Mummy
Terminator

1. Inglorious basterds I agree with.
2. I already said that in the thread
3.I said great movies.
4.agreed
5. I SAID GREAT MOVIES
6. the first terminator I agree with,second one she turned into a tomboy.

Edit: The mummy: she had kind of a secondary role. But I still sort of agree with you.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Umm, the movies you name basically have male protagonists and that reasoning is enough for you to include them in the list, because the protagonists overshadow the supporting characters.

You use the word "overshadowed" a lot, but that really doesn't mean the movies are sexist nor does it imply any kind of coincidence.

this. those are all just coincidences, they were portayed that way because it made SENSE to have a male role and possible little to no female leads in those parts.


you wanna know a good movie i just saw? inception. the chick from juno played an amazing character in which she wasn't a small role nor was she a tomboy.

 

[Erana]

The English Patient, Atonement, Pride and Prejudice...
Perhaps you're looking in the wrong genre?

 

[me and my dog]

HAVE YOU SEEN SILENCE OF THE LAMBS?. Clarice is a women in a mens world, of course she going to act tomboyish.

YES I HAVE SEEN SILENCE OF THE LAMBS MANY TIMES WHAT'S YOUR POINT?

How exactly does she act tomboyish? Give reasons please. Does she dress in boys clothes? Adopt male mannerisms? No, she does not.

The only remotely masculine thing about her I can see is that she is in the FBI, and law enforcement is typically a male dominated area. The novel and film deal with this as a theme and a focus of conflict. However, that does not make her tomboyish, not in the slightest, unless you're using some other definition of the word tomboy.

In Annie Wilkes case, working with guns,working on a farm,MURDERING.

Okay, what what and what. Working on a farm? Since when can't women work on farms? Almost all small farms and or subsistence farms are family based, which means that every member of the family helps out, including the women!

And murdering? Last time I checked, over 20 percent of all murders in America were committed by females. Now, that's a minority, but it's hardly enough to put murdering as a specifically male dominated field.

Read my comments again. I never said that women could not work on a farm, I said that they would probably turn into tomboys if SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WORKING ON THE FARM. Also go on Wikipedia and type tomboy. Women that participate in activities of physical nature or activities mainly meant for men.Since you said that law enforcement is a male dominion then I guess that would make Clarice tomboyish. Also read my thread again. When I was talking about Clarice I did not say tomboy, I said tomboyish.

 

[me and my dog]

Umm, the movies you name basically have male protagonists and that reasoning is enough for you to include them in the list, because the protagonists overshadow the supporting characters.

You use the word "overshadowed" a lot, but that really doesn't mean the movies are sexist nor does it imply any kind of coincidence.

this. those are all just coincidences, they were portayed that way because it made SENSE to have a male role and possible little to no female leads in those parts.


you wanna know a good movie i just saw? inception. the chick from juno played an amazing character in which she wasn't a small role nor was she a tomboy.

Halloween had a leading female role. Kill Bill had a leading female role. Read my thread better next time.

 

[theSovietConnection]

The shawshank redemption- Also no women in sight.

You couldn't really fit a woman into Shawshank Redemption because Andy Dufresne was serving in a maximum security penitentiary, which aren't mixed gender institutions.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Sexist Snip

You do realize that just because you say that you aren't trying to be sexist doesn't make you immune to saying sexist things right?

Responding to your other posts:

Women have worked on farms since a long ass time ago.
Women who are a part of the police and other agencies don't sign away their femininity upon joining.
You don't need a Y chromosome to kill someone.
Women who actually do physical work for the sake of an income don't become tomboys.

 

[me and my dog]

SEXISM!

It kinda works like that.

Men do the work and women stay in the kitchen/bedroom.

You're not a genius for noticing this.

On a completely unrelated note since when did midriff revealing shirts became the visual shorthand for "action girl" . What's the connection?

Uh dude, I never said I was a genius. I just love movies.

 

[Shilkanni]

Some of my favourite movies with what I would consider 'significant' female roles:
American Beauty
Dogma
Memento
The Prestige
Kill Bill
The Silence of the Lambs
Crouching Tiger
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

 

[me and my dog]

The shawshank redemption- Also no women in sight.

You couldn't really fit a woman into Shawshank Redemption because Andy Dufresne was serving in a maximum security penitentiary, which aren't mixed gender institutions.

Yeah the problem was there were scenes taking place outside the prison

 

[suhlEap]

Also some the best war movies like saving private Ryan and the hurt locker won best picture and neither of those even featured women. Don't say that men play a bigger part in wars than women because we have ton of women defending our country along with men.

fair enough in the hurt locker, but there wouldn't have been any women in saving private ryan, because there was no women in the army during world war 2. plus that film tries to make america look amazing during the war whoch is bullshit. howevee that i a story for another time.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Umm, the movies you name basically have male protagonists and that reasoning is enough for you to include them in the list, because the protagonists overshadow the supporting characters.

You use the word "overshadowed" a lot, but that really doesn't mean the movies are sexist nor does it imply any kind of coincidence.

this. those are all just coincidences, they were portayed that way because it made SENSE to have a male role and possible little to no female leads in those parts.


you wanna know a good movie i just saw? inception. the chick from juno played an amazing character in which she wasn't a small role nor was she a tomboy.

Halloween had a leading female role. Kill Bill had a leading female role. Read my thread better next time.

alright? i dont know what you were trying to poke at there but i dont see what you are argueing about then?

 

[Chamale]

Most movies have male protagonists, or are romances.

As a male, this state of affairs seems to work for me. I don't know exactly how a film would be changed by a female protagonist, but it seems that most protagonist roles would work in either genre. However, this often becomes too emphasized - the fact that the protagonist is a woman becomes more notable than any of her actions.

For the historical movies, of course, it's justified. Before the 1960's, women just didn't have interesting roles in society. Nearly every woman was simply a housewife, and they weren't allowed to do exciting things and live their own lives.

 

[theSovietConnection]

The shawshank redemption- Also no women in sight.

You couldn't really fit a woman into Shawshank Redemption because Andy Dufresne was serving in a maximum security penitentiary, which aren't mixed gender institutions.

Yeah the problem was there were scenes taking place outside the prison

And how many of those were there? With the exception of Brooks getting out, Red getting out, Andy getting out, and the trial, there were very few that didn't involve a prison work crew.