Having just played the Duke Nukem Demo- I can confidently cancel my pre-order.

[jpoon]

Downloading the demo now, my preorder or lack of preorder will hinge on how the demo plays. Man, I'm pretty bummed to hear how much shit the demo's getting already, I was hoping for a good game to come of this... =(

 

[Zeetchmen]

Borderlands was total garbage, sad I had such high expectations for Duke

 

[spartandude]

Nice, judging the entire game off the demo.

I'm really not sure where to begin in telling you you're wrong

 

[Milo Windby]

http://www.plughead.net/impressions-duke-nukem-demo#comment-2430

Demo confirmed to be an outdated build. So at the very least, graphical complaints and control issues most likely will not apply to the retail version.

I took a look (And hopefully others will as well)
and yeah, I won't be judging the main game on how the demo looks and feels.
If its not even close to what the main game will look like then I don't see any reason on giving up on it just yet.
(plus, there is such as thing as renting a video game ;3)

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

Nice, judging the entire game off the demo.

I'm really not sure where to begin in telling you you're wrong

Yeah can can we stop with the condecending retorts now? gettin quoted 6 times with the same response gets boring after a while.

Thanks.

 

[Arisato-kun]

Guess I made the right call pre-ordering Alice: Madness Returns instead.

I'll still give it a rental.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Nice, judging the entire game off the demo.

I'm really not sure where to begin in telling you you're wrong

Yeah can can we stop with the condecending retorts now? gettin quoted 6 times with the same response gets boring after a while.

Thanks.

Probably a better idea to just edit out your original post then?
Clearly lots of people find it stupid, and since this thread is still going, you know it's going to happen more often.

 

[The Lugz]

at the end of the day, it's a fan appeal game it's next to irrelevant how it plays it's the duke and all his silly dumb, impossible wacky crap that matters

if you 'really' have to have every possible weapon just download a trainer, mod dukes health or whatever. the world's your oyster, baby.

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

Nice, judging the entire game off the demo.

I'm really not sure where to begin in telling you you're wrong

Yeah can can we stop with the condecending retorts now? gettin quoted 6 times with the same response gets boring after a while.

Thanks.

Probably a better idea to just edit out your original post then?
Clearly lots of people find it stupid, and since this thread is still going, you know it's going to happen more often.

No, if people feel the need to be a dickhead for a post I made when I was half asleep let them, and I will not respond to spam.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I'm not surprised of what Duke Nukem ended up becoming. The gaming industry is basically run by publishers and publishers always attempt to appeal to the morons who will actually shell out the cash to buy their shit.

What Gearbox did is take the Duke Nukem franchise, colour it brown, apply most of the things that make shooters shit nowadays and release it hoping to cash in on nostalgia. Oh, by the way, apparently the PC version is a port. How about that? A PC centric franchise changed in order to appeal to the console market. I dislike what commercialism has done to gaming and I hate publishers for encouraging and nurturing it.

Let's face it, this game sucks but giving the state of the gaming industry today it will sell in the millions. At the risk of sounding like a hipster, I liked gaming way more before it became mainstream. At least back then, how much a game sold didn't depend on how big the marketing budget was.

 

[EzraPound]

The original Duke Nukem was awful so it's not surprising.

/fail

oh the excitement of pushing minecarts and emptying them before you can even start to a scripted sequence... constant balls to the wall action indeed.

What? You expect them to give away the best parts in a demo? Also, who said Duke Nukem was ever about "Constant balls to the wall action"? Who said constant balls to the wall action was ever a good way to design games? Duke Nukem 3D was actually one of the first FPSes to pioneer the idea of slowing down every once in a while for a puzzle or two. An idea that many people credit to Half-Life which I'm sure you've heard of and seen people suck its balls (of steel) over.

The demo is just showing that that mindset has not been lost in 14 years of delays, WoW, and (most likely) porn. And it does it through "F'ing Heavy" brand barrels and minecarts. And since you seem so "Disgusted" with DNF, I doubt you are in the First Access Club. So I highly doubt you've actually gotten to play the demo that you seem to despise already. God, your avatar is just so fitting.

Yes, it's because Doom, Hexen, Star Wars: Dark Forces or several other pre-Duke 3D FPS games ~never~ featured puzzles or backtracking elements to slow down the pace. Might want to play some more classics before you start making bold claims, boy.

My point was that DNF has marketed itself as a high action old school shooter, an antithesis of the Call of Duty wannabe, so to speak. And yet it employs several elements of that series~ Oh well.

And no, I haven't played the demo, but thanks to this thing called Youtube there were Let's Plays or simple playthrough footage within hours of it going live, saves me the bother of having to waste the filespace on downloading the thing when it goes public.

Puzzles in first-person shooters are as old as first-person shooters themselves, but I will say this: Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior both expanded considerably upon the typical coloured keycard fare that had largely characterized the genre up until that point (think of in Duke, the amount of ways in which you could interact with the environment), and in doing so paved the way for Half-Life--a series which Randy Pitchford has went out of his way to clarify is indebted to DN3D's legacy (remember the microwaves?).

I'm not surprised of what Duke Nukem ended up becoming. The gaming industry is basically run by publishers and publishers always attempt to appeal to the morons who will actually shell out the cash to buy their shit.

What Gearbox did is take the Duke Nukem franchise, colour it brown, apply most of the things that make shooters shit nowadays and release it hoping to cash in on nostalgia. Oh, by the way, apparently the PC version is a port. How about that? A PC centric franchise changed in order to appeal to the console market. I dislike what commercialism has done to gaming and I hate publishers for encouraging and nurturing it.

Let's face it, this game sucks but giving the state of the gaming industry today it will sell in the millions. At the risk of sounding like a hipster, I liked gaming way more before it became mainstream. At least back then, how much a game sold didn't depend on how big the marketing budget was.

Given that the NES sold more units than either the PS3 or Xbox 360 has yet, and that Super Mario Bros. 3 sold more copies than San Andreas for the PS2, I'd say gaming has probably been mainstream since before you started playing. Unless you started in, like, 1971.

Guess I made the right call pre-ordering Alice: Madness Returns instead.

I'll still give it a rental.

Maybe instead of judging DNF on the basis of someone else's opinion of an outdated tech demo you should consult metacritic once it's released and judge based on someone else--in this case, a professional reviewer's--opinion of the final game. Or, better yet, just rent it and make up your mind for yourself.

Just an idea.

 

[Hosker]

I can't believe people were actually looking forward to this. But I've never played the old ones.

 

[Furioso]

I hope all these haters did their research and found out that the demo is the over 8 months old PAX demo. Gearbox has already said the full game has tons of improvements that the demo doesnt have.

Also who the fudge actually bases a game off the demo. Demos are always trash with 50% of the features missing. After playing PC games for over 15 years I cant remember one demo that didn't make me almost not buy the game.

Then why would they release a demo that's 8 months old featuring stuff that they know is changed, a demo is supposed to get you hyped for the real thing, let you try it out and see if you'll like it, if what you are saying is true then the PR department at Gearbox is being run by a rock

 

[Yoh3333]

Ever since i heard about this reboot i knew it wouldn't be outstanding. Mediocre at best. None of the trailers left me interrested and some of them even showed some horrible controls. (poop throwing one in particular, it looked like it was clunky to me atleast)

 

[Mikodite]

"I just hope that 3D Realms understand that if this game doesn't turn out to be history's greatest contribution to human culture and a cure for at least one type of cancer then I and every reviewer on earth is going to saw its bollocks off." ~Yahtzee

Translation: due to the hype machine if this game wasn't the best game ever we are going to hate it.

 

[The Lugz]

I honestly don't care how bad or good it is. I'll be getting it no matter what. Not like I'm strapped for cash or anything so whatever.

Cool, then you can buy me a condo.
In the long run, I think everyone can agree it would be a better investment.

surely, buying me a condo would be superior to either of those options?

but in all seriousness..
if people keep bailing the second they think something might be less than perfect we'll end up with 1 good game, the rest of the industry wont see a penny and we'll just see endless clones of it
( the ever-quest clone situation comes to mind,
and we all know how many 'rifts' that opened 'shiver' )

basically it's a &&&k-around of the nth degree and that's what it's supposed to be
sure, it could have better mechanics, or controls
but for a game that's been rehashed, redesigned cancelled and rebuilt that many times, i'm amazed it's as good as it is
also,
ITS A DEMO!!!! they could easily patch out tiny flaws later!
admit it, weapon count, body impacts ect are tiny flaws that could be fixed in a day and possibly will be if people go on about it the way they are..
that's why company's make demo's, so you can see content and they can see what people want so they can make minor tweaks
just wait until release before you condemn a game as useless junk at least..

frankly any game where i can walk into a briefing room and draw whatever the hell i like on the board such as a giant foot mashing an alien made of falic symbols
and be hailed a genius as long as i get the job done, is a game i want to play
it gets my vote, i don't claim it's perfect but it's good enough for now!

"I just hope that 3D Realms understand that if this game doesn't turn out to be history's greatest contribution to human culture and a cure for at least one type of cancer then I and every reviewer on earth is going to saw its bollocks off." ~Yahtzee

Translation: due to the hype machine if this game wasn't the best game ever we are going to hate it.

but it is yahtzee's JOB to saw things... apart.. so it's to be expected of his posh little cottons and we love him for it, so we don't have to!

 

[ScoopMeister]

I'm actually vaguely pleased that it doesn't look so good for DNF. I'm not really old enough to have experienced the old Duke Nukem games, but by this point I am just pissed at all the hype a game over a decade in the making is getting.
I guess Duke fans are gonna have to just get over the fact that the franchise is dead.

 

[Fursnake]

So it's down to rental status now?

 

[Morgan Howe]

I'm actually vaguely pleased that it doesn't look so good for DNF. I'm not really old enough to have experienced the old Duke Nukem games, but by this point I am just pissed at all the hype a game over a decade in the making is getting.
I guess Duke fans are gonna have to just get over the fact that the franchise is dead.

for those of us who remember playing duke nukem 3d when we were 11, this is heart breaking, it was a great game for the time, but the things that made that game great are just not here.
for 1, being able to hold every gun at once.