Helicopters in Battlefield 3; or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love the eject button'

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setting_son

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I've been playing BF3 since the European release and not once have I had a satisfactory experience in a helicopter.

I love driving about in tanks and IFVs; exchanging shots with enemy armour, trying not to be outflanked by pesky infantry, limping back to cover for repairs after getting damaged to within a few percent of dead - it's tremendous fun.

Similarly, the infantry roles are all pretty well balanced in my opinion although I do miss Blops' take on kit customisation. I mean, there *are* a lot of options for customising loadout but I preferred Blops' implementation.

However - on to the subject of my post:

Helicopters. I know in real life they're a complicated beast to control but this is a video game, I'm playing to relax not so that I can trigger post traumatic stress disorder when I pick up Battlefield 4 in a few years.

Upon taking off it all goes smoothly enough as long as I'm flying in straight lines but any more complicated flight plans see me lurching wildy around the map - If I'm lucky I don't hit terrain but there's never an opportunity to try and shoot anyone because I'm trying not to mate my helicopter with a tree.

Some times it seems to be a lag issue - the chopper is flying straight and level and then teleports into a wall before exploding - but a lot of the time it's like the thing doesn't take any notice of my controller inputs.

So I figured that maybe piloting isn't for me but I can still ride as a gunner or passenger, right? Wrong. Has anyone else noticed a phenomenon of players sprinting to respawned aircraft, climbing in as pilots, filling up on crew and passengers and then flying off the edge of the carrier before descending slowly and maddeningly into the ocean?

I get that pretty much every time I try to fly with people. That and the guy/girl who has a transport chopper full of passengers eager to capture a flag but they can't because he won't land. Then again, based on my own attempts at flying, I can't blame them for keeping distance from sea level.

And at the end of this, I can't remember what question I had for my fellow escapists.

I suppose it's:

1) Do you crash every time you set foot in those things? Do you want to form a support group?
2) Does anyone in the UK or somewhere else that wont lag terribly want to be my friend and fly me everywhere so I don't need to embarrass myself further?
3) Are DICE gunning for the Hollywood Movie audience by depicting every single helicopter that takes off as an object almost scientifically designed to crash?
4) What vehicle or class are you useless with?
 

Areani

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I kinda like how the choppers are difficult to pilot. It makes it so you actually have to be skilled in order to be useful in one. I have experienced little to no server lag while playing. You gotta find the right servers. There are loads of servers running in Sweden so I got no trouble finding a good one.

I think it's safe to say that any helicopter that takes off is bound to crash sooner or later regardless of how skilled the pilot is though. It's not like it's gonna fly back to base all 'Mission Accomplished'.
 

setting_son

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Yeah, I suppose an element of difficulty in the piloting is good - but I thought the difficulty was about right in BF:BC2, where I was an abysmal pilot, I at least could fly around, transport people, shoot things... albeit slowly and as a very obvious target.

That said, I dont miss being spawn camped by people who did that 'circle the spawn point, always facing inwards and changing height rapidly' trick. Could never hit them with a guided missile, and never lived long enough to wear them down with gunfire.
 

KissofKetchup

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I HATE the new helicopter controls. Why they changed the already confusing for beginner helicopter controls from the previous iterations of Battlefield is unfathomable to me. Why they couldn't just use one analog stick to control the heli similar to how a real one is flown is just plain retarded.

That said however it didn't really take me that long to learn how to fly reliably well and am pretty used to the hair brained control scheme.

I love the game otherwise
 

setting_son

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usmarine4160 said:
I love the new chopper controls. When I lock on with my AA missiles I sometimes don't even have to fire, I let the pilot freak out and crash
I wish I got to the point of being freaked out. Too busy wondering why I'm upside down.
 

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Not wishing to brag at all but im actually a very good chopper pilot. The reasons for this are simple

1. Practice, like absolutly everything else in life the more you practice at somthing the better you get at it. Want to practice in BF3? Hit the co-op missions and play Fire from sky repeatedly untill you get it down to an art form.

2. Experiance, being a BF2, BF2142 and BFBC2 veteran i know how these things are and yes they can be stupidly difficult to fly and the designers didnt make it easy. That being said however ive also played ALOT of ARMA2 and the controls for that are almost the same, and belive me ARMA is a lot less forgiving than BF3. More often than not you'll be flying under 30meters the whole time and ducking and dodging between hilltops, trees, power lines, enemy fighters, AAA, SAM's all the while following orders from your squad leader or ground controller.

3. Knowlage of your role, if you dont fly very well STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE CHOPPER! Somthing that really winds me up is muppets camping the spawn for the jet or chopper, climbing into it then instantly rolling the thing over on its back wasting the chopper and a ticket (or two) for everyone else. There are a million other things yo could be doing other than messing about with aircraft. Get your butt in gear and help out on the front line, medic's and resupply are ALWAYS needed and they give points gallore for that all important ranking up.
 

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For some reason I'm utterly useless with the jet. Which is very weird, since I'm playing with a joystick, play a ton of flight games and I can actually pilot small planes irl. For some reason I just suck with the jet so much. I got one jet kill and managed to knock out one tank so far. I think I've crashed 30 jets now.
 

setting_son

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Duffeknol said:
For some reason I'm utterly useless with the jet. Which is very weird, since I'm playing with a joystick, play a ton of flight games and I can actually pilot small planes irl. For some reason I just suck with the jet so much. I got one jet kill and managed to knock out one tank so far. I think I've crashed 30 jets now.
Jet's not quite so bad for me. Strafing is a bit of a nightmare though - jet flies so quickly I never get time to PID a target and fire more than a very short burst before I've bypassed it.
 

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I'm not the best pilot but I've always seen them as quite easy to fly. I love taking it in low and hearing my passengers scream as the blades barely fit through the streets' buildings or trees. Maybe turn it sideways for a few seconds and make a sharp change of course.

I can't strafe a target to save my life though. Literally most of the time. So I usually stick to transport or as a mobile platform for one of my friends' deadly gunner skills. He can't fly and I can't aim so it works perfectly this way.
 

chadachada123

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If you're playing on a console, then read this:

Switch the control sticks in the options for helicopter controls to Southpaw

This will mean that you do your steering with the left stick and turn with the right stick, like in normal goddamn video games. Flying just get 50% easier.

I'm pretty freaking good with tanks and AA tanks, and can fly a helicopter without crashing, but I'm pretty useless as far as combat goes with helicopters and jets, and useless for transport with choppers because I can't stay steady. Classwise, I don't touch ranger but generally play as engineer and support. Fun stuff.
 

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Brotip: Legacy is your friend.

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I like it because now you can no longer go in circles endlessly raping the ground with no real way to hurt you like in BC2. Try that here, it'll get you flaming wreckage. :p
 

setting_son

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chadachada123 said:
If you're playing on a console, then read this:

Switch the control sticks in the options for helicopter controls to Southpaw

This will mean that you do your steering with the left stick and turn with the right stick, like in normal goddamn video games. Flying just get 50% easier.

I'm pretty freaking good with tanks and AA tanks, and can fly a helicopter without crashing, but I'm pretty useless as far as combat goes with helicopters and jets, and useless for transport with choppers because I can't stay steady. Classwise, I don't touch ranger but generally play as engineer and support. Fun stuff.
Cheers for the tip, I'll try that now and see if I get anywhere with it.

I like the AA tank too, especially now that I have the AA missile unlocked. The AMTRAC is useless though, sure it can take a beating but its main weapon is pants.
 

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setting_son said:
1) Do you crash every time you set foot in those things? Do you want to form a support group?
Yes. I cannot stand the control of the helicopter or even the plane. I don't see how some people CAN actually use them. If I ever grab a flying vehicle, I just fly it, kamakazee-style into my friend, which annoy him greatly. :D

setting_son said:
2) Does anyone in the UK or somewhere else that wont lag terribly want to be my friend and fly me everywhere so I don't need to embarrass myself further?
I'm in Australia and, if you know us and our internet, generally we can't help with lag.

setting_son said:
3) Are DICE gunning for the Hollywood Movie audience by depicting every single helicopter that takes off as an object almost scientifically designed to crash?
Most likely. Either that, or they forgot to test the flying controls. Interestingly enough, not one mission in the campain lets you fly a helicopter or plane. Maybe they knew the controls were terrible, but were too lazy or busy (AKA lazy) to fix it.

setting_son said:
4) What vehicle or class are you useless with?
Class: Recon. Can't snipe at all.
Vehicles: Just the flying ones, mate. Just the flying ones.
 

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If anyone can tell me if the controls are the same on PC for helicopters in BF1942 mods, BF: vietnam, and BF2 helicopters, then I'm sure I can rock the helicopters in BF3 again, too. :D
I've always been a bloody good heli-pilot in those games...

I'm noticing a lot of hate for new controls though. Does this just apply to the console version of BF3? Or are the controls drastically changed in the PC version too?

(Not trying to de-rail, just curious if the controls are different for the PC version, then I'll leave your thread to go its own way. ^_^ )
 

Smithburg

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I actually don't find them hard to control, i switched it to legacy mode, and the handling is much easier, it changes the tilt to the other stick which you can adjust more easily and then the other flight controls are on the other stick. I can usually get into a good position to give the gunner room, and then can strafe any planes that come at me. You just gotta practice some, like in the coop mission.
 

Elsarild

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1. Thanks for makeing me laught becuase I could associate with all of your post but this section: "So I figured that maybe piloting isn't for me but I can still ride as a gunner or passenger, right? Wrong. Has anyone else noticed a phenomenon of players sprinting to respawned aircraft, climbing in as pilots, filling up on crew and passengers and then flying off the edge of the carrier before descending slowly and maddeningly into the ocean?"

I can't say that I have, I like to be the gunner, and I do a pretty good job at it if I say so myself.

1) No I got a pretty good hang of the jets by now, both AA and AG I do okay.

2) Hah, I'm from Denmark on a 40/40 fiber, i guess I shoulnd't lag that much, and I am co-founder af a community that has both a rush and conquest larger server running in holland.

3) No i don't think so, I've been a gunner in a helicopter racking up 10+ kills with the right pilot and my friend is awesome in a jet takinging out people one by one.

4) I suck at driving tank, I'm way too focused on taking out enemies AND shielding myself that I do a useless job, just gimmi a stinger and I'll bring everything to the ground