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r3lix

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PedroSteckecilo said:
r3lix said:
Spitfire175 said:
You people are mixing history and pre-history. If the thread says "history", then it is history. That means it has to be somewhere in recorded history. So "the beginning of life" and the big bang are vot valid.

My guess is the birth of cities. It's the beginning of writing, advanced agriculture and civilisation as well, actually. So it is the birth of humanity: language, societies amd culture are what separate us from animals.
yes, I do believe history does mean a recorded event. But what these escapist have been saying shows ones values, Its great to read ones views of life. But your absolutely correct.
The study of History, in an Academic Sense, refers to the study of Written Texts. The study of Physical Objects is Archeology, the study of human and non human remains is Anthropology, the study of the beginning of the world is either Geology or Religion, the study of the beginning of life is either Biology or Religion.
Brilliant interpretation! Thankyou
 
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The battle of Manzikert. (1071) After the Byzantines lost that battle to the arabs, they called on western Europe to help, which turned into the Crusades. The crusaders then settled themselves in the middle east taking arab texts and had them translated to boost Western Europe's scientific research. (They also led to the Byzantine's downfall and the start of the Ottomans) That was then used for the Rennasaince ( I probably didn't spell that right.) and the fateful travels to the New World by Spain. Pretty much Manzikert set the stage of events for the past 900 years.
 

xXZer0

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When someone made the first liquor. And when they figured out that drinking water and eating off of things made of lead was bad might be bad is sort of important
 

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That depends on where you are in the world and if you're asking over all of time through all world civilizations or if you're speaking as in, "What's relevant to your country."


In the prehistoric period--agriculture. The concept of a city. The concept of building structures--especially from the Egyptians and the Romans who were architecting the hell out things.

When Rome took over England, they set them up to be organized and, eventually, England took Rome's place as the largest empire on the planet.

In the slightly more modern era--Europeans finding North, Central and South America and, later on, Australia and New Zealand--changed the world forever.
 

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Spitfire175 said:
Did you know all the ideas in the declaration of independace were presented by Adam Smith and Anders Chydenius nearly 100 years earlier? And that the French constitution after the revolution was far more anvanced? Laws and freedom are not an American invention: The Romans gave the base for all modern western legal systems, which were then shaped by the cultural evolution of Europe, and what we call ideas of freedom were shaped by philosophers in age of enlightment, 18th century Europe. And they got their ideas from ancient Greece.
I didn't know the first(although I do love Adam Smith) and I'm not suggesting that the Americans invented freedom or the idea that every man has a right to it - I'm merely saying that the declaration set much in motion which later on lead to something great and that it was a mile-stone. :)
 

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KiiWii said:
They say that because the internet so resembles the cerebral cortex of the human brain, what with its billions of computers making trillions of connections (like billions of neurones making trillions of synapses), the internet will eventually evolve to the point where it will become self aware.

in other words: 2029, sky net goes global
Holy crap. Way to give me something else to worry about. XD
 

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historybuff said:
That depends on where you are in the world and if you're asking over all of time through all world civilizations or if you're speaking as in, "What's relevant to your country."


In the prehistoric period--agriculture. The concept of a city. The concept of building structures--especially from the Egyptians and the Romans who were architecting the hell out things.

When Rome took over England, they set them up to be organized and, eventually, England took Rome's place as the largest empire on the planet.

In the slightly more modern era--Europeans finding North, Central and South America and, later on, Australia and New Zealand--changed the world forever.
Egyptian cities were really mostly copies of old Sumerian and Mesopotamian cities. As well as their pyramids. Not to diminish their skill and importance, but the Egyptians were not the first.

In contradiction to popular belief, the people Romans, and now we, call barbarians of antiquity, were often very well developed nations. We like to think of them as hairy brutes and war painted lunatics, which, actually, couldn't be further from the truth. In the british isles, many nations existed well before the Romans arrived: The Anglos, the Britons, the Mercians, the Welsh, the Gaels and the Picts. Romans built a new London on top of the city that had stood there for hundreds of years. Sure, we can say the Romans were more civilized, but that's not the whole truth.

If we are to say Romans are the reason Britain triumphed over the rest in the late 18th century, we are saying the Romans left their cultural heritage to britain alone. If we are to assume it was roman tradition that took Britain to the top, why didn't the Italians or the French or any one of the areas more intensly affected by the Roman empire emerge on the top?

It wasn't Roman tradition that took britain to the top. Britain didn't take Rome's palce, there were many between them: the Byzantium, the Huns, the Franks, the Rusj(vikings settled in Novgorod and ruled the largest realm in Europe in the 1100s, that's also were the word "russia" comes from.), the Ottomans, the Spanish, the Portugese, the Dutch, the French, the Russians(under Peter the Great), then the French again and THEN finally after 1400 years, the British were the mightiest in the world. Their success was due to their own ingenuity and new innovations that had very little to do with the Romans. Even the Success of Italian city states wasn't due to the Roman legacy: its influence is vastly exaggerated. The European world domination was their own making: Rome was a romanticised utopia that inspired many, but in reality the means of conquering and ruling were of the later times.

Roman culture that affected Britain was collectivistic and the religion they brought was the old Greek- copied panthenon. When Europe rose to world power, the philosophical ideas powering the men in power were those of individualism, hegemony and humanism. Post roman ideas developed by christian Europeans. Christianity was a powerful tool in contolling societies and men altogether. It wasn't the Romans who brought christianity to the parts of europe that later controlled the world. The Romans, who originally imitated the Greek, built indeed the foundation for the western world, but to give them credit for Adam Smith's writings or the steam engine (the romans didn't invent much) is too far fetched.

I could go on about how the Romans just stole everything from the "barbarians they conquered, like for example metalworking from the germanic tribes, glass from carthage, dyes and fabrics from the middle east, etc, but it would be pointless. Rome was a mighty nation that lived off the fruits of other's labour, not the utopia renecance and neoclassical artists turned it into.
 

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Well, due to the definition of history (written/oral history, all the time after humans could communicate with each other, not before, sorry to invalidate your entries, people who wrote "big bang" or something akin), human history is not important at all, with perspective. I'd say the most important was the exact moment history was created, when sentient life first spoke about a memory (something that happened before, thus history) which would eventually lead humans to become the dominant species on the planet, despite not being the most numerous or the largest.

Sorry if that is unclear, which it is. What I'm trying to say is, history is only after humans communicated, and that point is the most important.
 

A Weary Exile

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rossatdi said:
Agriculture.

Lead directly to the creation of urban specialists and thus culture...
What are you stupid? Post-it notes are the greatest invention ever.

Kidding of course.
 

Jurassic Rob

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The invention of the printing press. The best invention ever created, thus the most important part of history from a world wide stand point!