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Because they voted for their leaders. (By they I mean land owning 35 year old males of course)lwm3398 said:
Karl Marx
sladin
alexander the great
xerxes(SP please) the persian king
Leonedas(SP again) who led the spartans against xerxes at thermoplyde
Hanibal barca
trajan, the emporer who led Rome to it's greatest extent
Ulyssess s grant (i'm british but i still know about him and he interests me)
Napolean Bonaparte
the list goes on and on...
sladin
alexander the great
xerxes(SP please) the persian king
Leonedas(SP again) who led the spartans against xerxes at thermoplyde
Hanibal barca
trajan, the emporer who led Rome to it's greatest extent
Ulyssess s grant (i'm british but i still know about him and he interests me)
Napolean Bonaparte
the list goes on and on...
Fun fact: He started out as H-something Ulysses Grant, which spelled H.U.G. He hated it, so he changed it to Ulysses H-whatever Grant. At his school, West Point, where he was given his military and academic training, a secretary made a mistake and name him Ulysses Simpson Grant. He didn't correct her, so he remained U.S. Grant for his life. His friends told him the U.S. meant Uncle Sam, so that's how he got his presidential nickname.thepj said:
Knowledge is power!
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Gosh, there are so many....
Themistocles- The one man who deserves the most credit for the Greek deafeat of the Persians during the 480-479BC war. He was the one, who against traditional thinking, convinced the Athenians that they needed a fleet to defeat the Persian invasion. At huge personal risk to himself he got it done. Thus the Greeks defeated the Persians at Salamis, thus Xerxes pulls back to Aisa with the bulk of his army, and thus the rest of the Persias are defeated at Plataea and Mycale. Themistocles, at a strech, can be see as the saviour of Democracy. What makes hime even more intresting, is that he was a bit of a bollox. He was very open to bribes and all sorts of underhanded tatics. Not 10 years after Salamis he was ostracised by the Athenians!
H.G. Wells- Was so far ahead of his time! His books are amazing, if quite dated. However, some of the ideas he had, in the 1800's mind, are just amazing. I urge you to read some of his books.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel- A JU87 Stuka piolt. The man is a legend! From 1941-1945 he flew 2,530 combat missions and destroyed c.2,000 targets; inc. 1 Battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 cruisers, 9 air-air aircraft kills, 70 landing craft, 4 armored trains, 800 vehicles, 519 of which were tanks, 180 artillery guns and several bridges. He was shot down/forced to land 32 times. He was wounded 5 times, the worst one saw his leg been amputated, yet he still flew and still got kills. By the end of the war Stalin himself had put a 100,000 ruble reward on his head. He was the second highest decroated German of the war, Goring was first. He survived the war and gave himself up the the US forces. Died 1982 aged 66. Legend!
This short extract tell you the kinda man he was.
"On one occasion, after trying a landing to rescue two downed novice Stuka crewmen and then not being able to take off again due to the muddy conditions, he and his three companions, while being chased for 6 km by Soviet soldiers, made their way down a steep cliff by sliding down trees, then swam 600 meters across the icy Dniester river, during which his rear gunner, Knight's cross holder Henschel, succumbed to the cold water and drowned. Several miles further towards the German lines the three survivors were then captured by Soviets, but the irrepressible Rudel again made a run for it, and despite being barefoot and in soaking clothes, getting shot in his shoulder, and then being hunted down by dog packs and several hundred pursuers, jogged his way back to his own side over semi-frozen earth during the following days.[6] He became infamous among the Soviet Red Falcon pilots who could often be heard receiving orders to "get that Nazi swine in the Stuka with the two bars who always shoots up our tanks", the bars being a reference to the two Bordkanone on the Ju87G."
Themistocles- The one man who deserves the most credit for the Greek deafeat of the Persians during the 480-479BC war. He was the one, who against traditional thinking, convinced the Athenians that they needed a fleet to defeat the Persian invasion. At huge personal risk to himself he got it done. Thus the Greeks defeated the Persians at Salamis, thus Xerxes pulls back to Aisa with the bulk of his army, and thus the rest of the Persias are defeated at Plataea and Mycale. Themistocles, at a strech, can be see as the saviour of Democracy. What makes hime even more intresting, is that he was a bit of a bollox. He was very open to bribes and all sorts of underhanded tatics. Not 10 years after Salamis he was ostracised by the Athenians!
H.G. Wells- Was so far ahead of his time! His books are amazing, if quite dated. However, some of the ideas he had, in the 1800's mind, are just amazing. I urge you to read some of his books.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel- A JU87 Stuka piolt. The man is a legend! From 1941-1945 he flew 2,530 combat missions and destroyed c.2,000 targets; inc. 1 Battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 cruisers, 9 air-air aircraft kills, 70 landing craft, 4 armored trains, 800 vehicles, 519 of which were tanks, 180 artillery guns and several bridges. He was shot down/forced to land 32 times. He was wounded 5 times, the worst one saw his leg been amputated, yet he still flew and still got kills. By the end of the war Stalin himself had put a 100,000 ruble reward on his head. He was the second highest decroated German of the war, Goring was first. He survived the war and gave himself up the the US forces. Died 1982 aged 66. Legend!
This short extract tell you the kinda man he was.
"On one occasion, after trying a landing to rescue two downed novice Stuka crewmen and then not being able to take off again due to the muddy conditions, he and his three companions, while being chased for 6 km by Soviet soldiers, made their way down a steep cliff by sliding down trees, then swam 600 meters across the icy Dniester river, during which his rear gunner, Knight's cross holder Henschel, succumbed to the cold water and drowned. Several miles further towards the German lines the three survivors were then captured by Soviets, but the irrepressible Rudel again made a run for it, and despite being barefoot and in soaking clothes, getting shot in his shoulder, and then being hunted down by dog packs and several hundred pursuers, jogged his way back to his own side over semi-frozen earth during the following days.[6] He became infamous among the Soviet Red Falcon pilots who could often be heard receiving orders to "get that Nazi swine in the Stuka with the two bars who always shoots up our tanks", the bars being a reference to the two Bordkanone on the Ju87G."
<url=http://www.badassoftheweek.com/stamfordbridge.html>The viking at Stamford Bridge, what a complete stud.
Is this the same Uncle Sam that we see on the Army recruitment posters?lwm3398 said:
Oh no, that's not where Uncle Sam derived from. Uncle Sam, if I remember correctly, was something a political cartoonist drew up in the early 1800s. It was before Ulysses, but they just called him that because of the U.S. in his name.thepj said:
Oh, wait, that's my bad. Actually, it was a cartoon from 1917, and it made fun of:
Joan of Arc
Her story is just so completely beyond the normal realm of how historic figures tend to achieve their notability. It's not what she accomplished, but that she was allowed to accomplish it. She was truly a woman of the people; a peasant girl with no money, no power, no family connections of any kind, who managed to talk her way into command of the French army. This is really quite phenomenal when you look at the key roles of money, privilege, and/or class rank underlying most other historic figures.
Her story is just so completely beyond the normal realm of how historic figures tend to achieve their notability. It's not what she accomplished, but that she was allowed to accomplish it. She was truly a woman of the people; a peasant girl with no money, no power, no family connections of any kind, who managed to talk her way into command of the French army. This is really quite phenomenal when you look at the key roles of money, privilege, and/or class rank underlying most other historic figures.
The guy actually existed, just the author of the site took a little bit of creative license to make the story more entertaining.HerrBobo said:
Gotta love that civ. May i suggest http://civanon.com/BrotherhoodOfSteel said:
Anyways,
Erwin Rommel/Otto Kreschmer
Rommel was truly Germany's Last Knight, he was a respectable man and a brilliant tactician.
Otto was a very skilled U-Boat commander and I like my U-Boats.