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FalloutJack

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Right! So... I had been wondering just why it is that our boy Moffat has been having us wait months for a continuation in Doctor Who. Could it be for production reasons or money or even going in line with thr upcoming anniverary? Maybe. But I do know one thing...

Who here has looked into the show, Sherlock? And guess who's behind it?
 

CODE-D

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On the subject of sherlock
Game of shadows comes out later this year and everyone must see it.
 

The Thinker

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Oh! I love guessing games! Terry Pratchett! Neil Gaiman! No? Isaac Asimov?

...Steven Moffat? Yes! I win! But joking aside, I watch(ed) Doctor Who and Sherlock, and, even though I dislike Sherlock Holmes, because he acts clever after figuring things out from information the audience is deprived of, I eagerly await the return of both shows.

Edit: Game of Shadows, you say? A sequel to an awesome movie that needed a sequel? I give it my blessing.
 

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Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
 

FalloutJack

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Rednog said:
Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
Doctor Who doesn't have proper continuity. It's a show in which time paradoxes can occur and history changes.
 

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Because he can? I have heard people say "it feels right to have Doctor Who end in the winter" or some bullshit. We made it clear we will wait 15 years and still be rabid fans of the show. All I know is Godwin's law even applies to Doctor Who.

FalloutJack said:
Rednog said:
Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
Doctor Who doesn't have proper continuity. It's a show in which time paradoxes can occur and history changes.
From what I hear they were all "fixed" in Five Doctors anyway.
 

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FalloutJack said:
Rednog said:
Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
Doctor Who doesn't have proper continuity. It's a show in which time paradoxes can occur and history changes.
There is a difference between events changing and just how things work. Like they established Time Lords can shrug off radiation like it is nothing and even in some bad cases just transfer it to another object. This was established by Tennant and then Moffat freaking killed Tennant with radiation...wtf?!
 

FalloutJack

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Rednog said:
FalloutJack said:
Rednog said:
Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
Doctor Who doesn't have proper continuity. It's a show in which time paradoxes can occur and history changes.
There is a difference between events changing and just how things work. Like they established Time Lords can shrug off radiation like it is nothing and even in some bad cases just transfer it to another object. This was established by Tennant and then Moffat freaking killed Tennant with radiation...wtf?!
Hah, no. Misunderstanding. I can see where you'd think that. They could take an amount of radiation. Timelord bodies are highly-adaptive and very capable because of their biology and the regenerations. Why? Very simple. The time that a regeneration can last - without injury and sickness and bang-ups - is measurable in thousands of years. That's per regeneration. It is a FACT that they can still burn out a life much quicker though, beyond the threshold.

Example? Jon Pertwee, third doctor. He went into a chamber on Metabelis 3 which irradiated him far too greatly for his body to handle, the energy killing off his cells even as he spoke. The only reason he ever managed to get back to the TARDIS was due to sheer will and strength belonging to that of a Timelord. In "Smith And Jones", David Tennant absorbed radiation, but you have to understand...he was burning away a portion of that body's life. When he confronted Rassilon and the Master? He'd already done a number of things, none the LEAST being that he jumped out of a spaceship into a building in a manner that would've killed a lesser being.

AND THEN, while he was already weakened and shocked that he had survived the WHOLE encounter...four knocks. The radiation finished him off.
 

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FalloutJack said:
Rednog said:
FalloutJack said:
Rednog said:
Moffat makes people wait for Doctor Who because it takes him a long time to butcher continuity.
Doctor Who doesn't have proper continuity. It's a show in which time paradoxes can occur and history changes.
There is a difference between events changing and just how things work. Like they established Time Lords can shrug off radiation like it is nothing and even in some bad cases just transfer it to another object. This was established by Tennant and then Moffat freaking killed Tennant with radiation...wtf?!
Hah, no. Misunderstanding. I can see where you'd think that. They could take an amount of radiation. Timelord bodies are highly-adaptive and very capable because of their biology and the regenerations. Why? Very simple. The time that a regeneration can last - without injury and sickness and bang-ups - is measurable in thousands of years. That's per regeneration. It is a FACT that they can still burn out a life much quicker though, beyond the threshold.

Example? Jon Pertwee, third doctor. He went into a chamber on Metabelis 3 which irradiated him far too greatly for his body to handle, the energy killing off his cells even as he spoke. The only reason he ever managed to get back to the TARDIS was due to sheer will and strength belonging to that of a Timelord. In "Smith And Jones", David Tennant absorbed radiation, but you have to understand...he was burning away a portion of that body's life. When he confronted Rassilon and the Master? He'd already done a number of things, none the LEAST being that he jumped out of a spaceship into a building in a manner that would've killed a lesser being.

AND THEN, while he was already weakened and shocked that he had survived the WHOLE encounter...four knocks. The radiation finished him off.
I understand a case where you're taking so much constant radiation that you're cells are in fact dying, but in Tennant's case he went puttering around and visiting his old friends before regenerating. This wasn't some drag himself painfully to the TARDIS and barely making it.
I still don't see why he couldn't have done this. Yes he had taken a beating, but still, I just think it is one of those cases where Moffat just doesn't care.
 

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Rednog said:
Like they established Time Lords can shrug off radiation like it is nothing and even in some bad cases just transfer it to another object. This was established by Tennant and then Moffat freaking killed Tennant with radiation...wtf?!
That episode was written by previous show-runner Russell T Davies. Moffat didn't kill off Tennant.

Davies's script for the second episode finished with the Tenth Doctor's final line, "I don't want to go." He then sent the script to his successor Steven Moffat, who is responsible for all of the Eleventh Doctor's dialogue that follows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Time#Writing