Holy crap, folks...this one's a doozy...

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Jegsimmons

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Heres what you do, have a fund raiser to make a second house attached to the one the daughter is living in, then have the latino woman gain citizenship and move in so she can be with the daughter and no abrupt change is necessarily.

Or Russian roulette, that way, the choice is obvious.
 

Thumper17

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Ultratwinkie said:
poiumty said:
I... don't know. She's most likely learned english by now, getting pulled from the family that has raised her for 5 years to a mother she doesn't recognize and can't even understand is, if we're thinking of the children and not of ourselves, a bad idea.

Keep in touch, maybe. But I wouldn't want to make the girl suddenly give up the parents who have raised her for as far as she remembers.
Again with this? Good thing i made a copy pasta.

1. Due to an international treaty (Hague Abduction Convention), she is an illegal immigrant. She CANNOT become a citizen because it nullifies the treaty. This means America HAS NO RIGHT to ask for any Amercan children back from anywhere. At all. Not only that, but the UN will ***** slap America like they did to Brazil and Japan when they didn't follow the treaty.

2. She has no papers. She cant even enroll in an elementary school.

3. The parents KNOWN and COOPERATED with kidnappers to falsify documents. That is not only kidnapping, but fraud, and smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. They WILL take the kid away from those parents because they WILL go to prison for a LONG time. They even tried to hire a PR firm to do damage control.

Please read the article.

Point 1: "The State Department confirmed Tuesday that it has informed Guatemala's government that it can't help return Anyeli Hernández Rodríguez because the U.S. and Guatemala had not signed the Hague Abduction Convention at the time of the alleged kidnapping in 2006.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/05/16/guatemalan-mother-to-ask-us-court-to-return-adopted-daughter/#ixzz1vevYZpPb"

Point 2 is correct, ""When Guatemalan authorities determined the adoption was illegal, it nullified all of the child's fraudulent documentation that was used to process her adoption. This includes her Guatemalan passport, which she used to exit the country," said Fredy Coti, a lawyer at the Survivors Foundation.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/05/16/guatemalan-mother-to-ask-us-court-to-return-adopted-daughter/#ixzz1vew1gQ2s"


Point 3 is wrong on all counts.

"The girl spent over a year at an adoption agency before being adopted by Timothy and Jennifer Monahan of Liberty, Missouri.

A public relations firm the Monahans hired said last year that they "will continue to advocate for the safety and best interests of their legally adopted child." Their lawyer declined to comment Tuesday.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/05/16/guatemalan-mother-to-ask-us-court-to-return-adopted-daughter/#ixzz1vewLvIrJ"



Anyways:

The child probably cant speak spanish, might have ONE memory of her mother if any and has basically been raised american. She's 7 according to the CNN article, so she cant really decide who she wants to go with. She was 2 years old when she was stolen by a woman who fled into a waiting taxi.


Far as I know. The adoptive parents and the US departments in charge of this situation ahve refused comment, the adoptive parents seem to be upper-middle class. The mother has said she wants the child back or to at least get visitation rights and it would appear the mother can speak English. The girls father is out of the picture as he is not mentioned at all other then being her father. It would seem the girls uncle was the one who helped the most. So she has at least one good uncle, and another article I read said that the mother intends to spare no expsense decorating her daughters room, so she must have some money, so she isnt going to a poor house.

I really think we should get a comment from the girl, specifically. If she has any memory of her birth parents and who she would rather live with.

Because if she has no memory and would rather live with her adoptive parents. Who are we to tell her she cant?
 

Tanner The Monotone

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The kid has been with the adoptive parents for as long as she can remember. She didn't even know that her biological mother existed until all of this started happening. To her, the people who adopted her ARE her real parents, so I would say that they keep her.
 

Mau95

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Let the kid decide who she wants to live with. I'm sure she'll decide to live with her adoptive parents depending upon how nice they are. I don't really understand why this is a tough decision. Sure, I guess separating a mother from her child is a little cruel but this decision is not all about the mother.
I guess this, though I suppose the mother could visit occasionally and still get along with the daughter.
 

Thundero13

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Yeah, really i'm sure there's some middleground here, give the biological family visitation rights or whatever and eventually have the girl alternate between which house she stays at and I guess when she's old enough she can just decide who to live with? I certainly don't think she should just live with one of the two families by any means >.<
However if she has to stay with one of them and never see the other then i'd say she should stay with the adoptive parents, really, taking the child and throwing her into a house of strangers would be a horrid thing to do
 

Idocreating

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I'd have to go with what's best for the child. At two years old, she will have no memory of her birth mother and she should stay with her adoptive ones.

And on a devil's advocate note: It's Guatemala. Anyone thinking logically will realise that the kid is going to have a better life in America.

CAPTCHA: believe me
 

Dead Seerius

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It may seem bad, but I would probably see which life has better benefits for the child. I used to live in Liberty and it's really nice. The adoptive parents can obviously provide for the girl. Can the Guatemalan mother say the same? Wherever she lived, her daughter got kidnapped. Doesn't sound like a nice place, but what do I know. Tough decision for sure.