Homefront? Bringing the Fight Here?

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

 

[lightningmagurn]

The problem is that people fail to think about how a military invasion actually works. There are literally hundreds of thousands of National Guard members and reservists that would still be mobilizing while the invaders arrived. We wouldn't wait for them to attack we would just nuke them over the ocean. And think about how much you can carry. Food water ammo and medical supplies for 3 days is about the limit. Paratroopers are light infantry not meant to go more than a few days without reinforcements. The US military is so huge that there would be no way to take it out that fast that would leave the country inhabitable. It would be nukes or a long, costly drawn out slug fest or just a small incursion like the one in World in Conflict.

 

[Jedoro]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

See me bringing up allies at all? I'm just talking about North Korea and America. All fucking hell breaks loose once one ally jumps in, case in point WWI.

 

[maturin]

You know, I'm over the stupid premise. It's not really that much worse than MW2 and at least owns up to the fact that it's alternate history. And they're going to run with the idea, and create an actual setting and atmosphere.

But the gameplay looks like more tired, staid CoD-aping, and the wide-eyed comments of the interviewer and developer giving the preview makes me think how far the FPS genre has fallen. "Wow! Look at that patently basic storytelling technique! Holy shit, it's going to marginally more like a narrative than Black Ops!"

I also think it's funny that Apocalypse Now and Red Dawn were written by the same person. Either way, this game is going to become a second Bible for the Tea Party. Shrewd timing.

 

[Valkyrie101]

North Korea occupying the US.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Seriously, I just can't take this game seriously. I mean, ok, if it was China, I could see it, but North Korea doesn't have a big enough military to occupy California successfully, not to even mention the rest of the US.

I think the game's backstory has North Korea rapidly ascend to become a major economic power (lol), and take over a few nearby countries, so they are quite formidable. Not sure if that's more or less realistic, though. Also, it omits to mention what happened to America's nukes.

On topic, it's been done plenty of times, from MW2 recently to Red Alert 2 years ago (and at least the latter explained away the nukes issue, even if it was via mass mind control).

 

[GWarface]

Well... I think you americans have had your turn of fucking up other countries, IRL and in games, so i welcome this game with open arms...
Be it a good or bad game, i really dont care...

I just wish they made a singleplayer campaign from the Koreans side.. That would be more awesome than i can describe...

 

[tavelkyosoba]

People act like there have never been wars in North America.

I want a game about the French and Indian wars. Mmmm...superpower proxy wars, tasty.


Anyway, the game looks pretty generic and I'm not sure why Americans are so infatuated with the idea of invasion right now. Maybe some people feel like we've run out of ways to feel heroic? I dunno.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Ermm did you not notice the controversy over Modern Warfare 2?

I thought the controversy there was about the Russian Airport Shooting. Sure, bits of MW2 took place in the U.S. and it felt weird holding a position at the local McDonalds but that was also my favorite part of the game.

I've heard a bit about Homefront but not enough to have really formed an opinion on it. It just doesn't seem like my kind of game. It seems like a premise that's been done before though. I am curious about the plot though: Is the entire U.S. taken over? Who are our allies and were they also over run? I would keep an eye on this one if not for Skyrim making me salivate.

 

[Sovereignty]

Well... I think you americans have had your turn of fucking up other countries, IRL and in games, so i welcome this game with open arms...
Be it a good or bad game, i really dont care...

I just wish they made a singleplayer campaign from the Koreans side.. That would be more awesome than i can describe...

You probably also want a game where you can give people cancer don't ya? ...Dick






But on topic, the game looks bland... The premise is unrealistic (As was pointed out dozens of times before)... But I think the biggest problem I've got with it, is that even though it's in America the locales from the videos look like Bad Company 2. I mean if you wanna stage a war game in a modernized country, at LEAST have a huge squad based fight inside of a sky scraper in New York.

One team's spawn is at the base of the 60 floor building the other is an air drop onto the roof!

 

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

China wont allow it. China relies on western nations for its economy and attacking America would destroy its economy. You also forgot the US has allies. The moment China or Korea tries anything they will be attacked from the back by the allies in Europe. Russia is actually FRIENDLY to America. They have no quarrel with us and will likely help us. You also forget Korea attacked China in homefront which is retarded because China would decimate the Korean forces. You also fail to realize that multiple superpowers going to war will be fought with NUKES, and not armies.

Actually china is still very pissed off that america hasnt paid there trillion dollar debt and most likely will stop selling to the U.S and since most of the U.S imports are from china that might screw the U.S a bit.Russia isnt really friendly with the U.S since there are still some tensions so dont think there allies.Btw most countries in the world dont like or even hate the U.S so most likely those counties will help in the invasion.And at the end of the day the U.S's allies are canada,the u.k,australia,and france.Other than the u.k and maybe france thats not really a great list.And im pretty sure nukes will be last result since im pretty sure all the countries in the world dont want to blow up the world.

 

[scorch 13]

Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.

you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!

OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.

Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.

Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.

Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.

Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.

Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.

See me bringing up allies at all? I'm just talking about North Korea and America. All fucking hell breaks loose once one ally jumps in, case in point WWI.

Well in this game NK has taken over most of asia and has a badass army,however current day NK most likely will fail at an attack without help so in that case yes america would win.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Guess someone didn't play MW2, Freedom Fighters, World in Conflict, Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, Resistance 2, and Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2.

Point is, its a pretty popular concept. Homefront isn't even close to the first to do it.

 

[GWarface]

Well... I think you americans have had your turn of fucking up other countries, IRL and in games, so i welcome this game with open arms...
Be it a good or bad game, i really dont care...

I just wish they made a singleplayer campaign from the Koreans side.. That would be more awesome than i can describe...

You probably also want a game where you can give people cancer don't ya? ...Dick

Haha, did i hit a soft spot? Thats what i like about you yankees, you dont have a problem with invading and stomping on other peoples countries, but when the aim is at you, you go all defensive and whiney...

Or wait, i actually dont like that about you... I hate it...

Besides, what has cancer to do with this? Other than a cheap shot, to make me look like the bad guy...

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Haha, did i hit a soft spot? Thats what i like about you yankees, you dont have a problem with invading and stomping on other peoples countries, but when the aim is at you, you go all defensive and whiney...

Or wait, i actually dont like that about you... I hate it...

Besides, what has cancer to do with this? Other than a cheap shot, to make me look like the bad guy...

No, what makes you look like the bad guy is being excited about a game for the express purpose of killing a group of actual human beings who you don't like. What has America done to you personally? You know, other than being one of your biggest, strongest, and most loyal allies for the last 100 years (assuming you are from the UK or Australian. Though it applies to most of Europe as well).

Hating an entire group of people (to the point of wanting to see them get invaded and killed!) is a dick move, especially considering you have no personal issue with them and are probably just parroting whatever "wisdom" some political satirist has been shoving down your throat.

Grow up.

 

[GWarface]

Haha, did i hit a soft spot? Thats what i like about you yankees, you dont have a problem with invading and stomping on other peoples countries, but when the aim is at you, you go all defensive and whiney...

Or wait, i actually dont like that about you... I hate it...

Besides, what has cancer to do with this? Other than a cheap shot, to make me look like the bad guy...

No, what makes you look like the bad guy is being excited about a game for the express purpose of killing a group of actual human beings who you don't like. What has America done to you personally? You know, other than being one of your biggest, strongest, and most loyal allies for the last 100 years (assuming you are from the UK or Australian. Though it applies to most of Europe as well).

Hating an entire group of people (to the point of wanting to see them get invaded and killed!) is a dick move, especially considering you have no personal issue with them and are probably just parroting whatever "wisdom" some political satirist has been shoving down your throat.

Grow up.

I understand where you are going, but i think you take this a little too serious... All im saying is that i would like some new plots and angles in video games... Speaking for myself, and many others i know, im very tired and bored of playing games where you can practically take a shower in the american patriotism thats portrayed..
Thats why i would find it intertaining/interesting playing a game where you invade the US, since it hasnt been done in that many games in newer time...

As for the hate towards the US, i think you would feel the same way if you lived in a small ass country, on the other side of th globe, that is slowly becomming more and more americanised without any reason whatsoever...
I dont hate the american public, i hate your way of living and the way you are trying to force it on other countries, while you cant see that its a problem...

And please... Dont pull the "super-awesome-ally-card"... That argument is invalid...

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

I wonder how many people have bothered to read up on the background of Homefront before declaring the story bogus?

OT: Anyway, I'm interested in it. Yeah, in alot of games you're the Americans who come and be the shit out of the other force (be it an actual army or a guerilla force) so it'll be interesting to play as the guerilla forces. Even if it is just more Americans (I can see how all the gamers that aren't American can get bored of it).