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Just watched a trailer for the game Homefront which will be released in March of 2011. I don't know if anyone else has seen this trailer or heard about this game, but basically it's about North Korea taking over the US when Kim Jong Il's son takes over as the country's leader. Now I could be wrong but this is at least the first modern game, that truly brings a military offensive directly into the US, and keeps it there. Sure there have been isolated moments in games, such as Bad Company 2, that have been set in the US, or mentioned the US as some part of an offensive, but this game at least appears to be entirely set in the US, and looks as though it touches on some sensitive issues. Anyway, does anyone think a game such as this is finally due to be set in the US, with the US being the target? This question is aimed more for Americans, but if anyone from like Europe has any opinions on this then feel free to comment. I know that other countries outside of our own must be aware of the lack of war games set in this country.
you havent played MW2 yet, have you? Cause a good half that game was set in the US, in DC!
OT: I guess its due. I'm American, but I dont see the fantasy of it. Its basically street fighting really. And that would fall apart immediately. People always forgt that America has GANGS. You know, people that give SWAT, FBI, CIA, those people runs for their money. So any occupation would immediately fall apart. especially since hunting is still something HUGE in America (depending where you go), and most could pull the guerilla tactics used by Al-Queda or the Vietcong. Also, you have to face an industrialized nation above you (Canada) cause they're not just gonna stand by. So I dont really view this as anything special. Its way over dramatized and never realistic.
Um,im pretty sure hunters and gangs members cant do shit to tanks,jets,helicopters etc.Plus in the trailor the korean troops have some pretty badass armor.
Infantry are the "Queens of Battle" for a reason. Without superior infantry, all you can do is destroy, not hold. If bombed enough, people will get the balls to come out of alleys, jump on a tank, and drop a homemade bomb down the hatch after using hunting rifles to take out the infantry near the tanks. Ceramic plates are tested against .30-06 AP rounds tops, and hunters have bigger bullets. Anything smaller, they can take up to three shots and then they're done.
Jets? We'd attack the airfields, pushing back their staging points. Eventually, they'd have nowhere close to refuel and couldn't keep bombing. Choppers? Snipe the pilots out if it sits still at all or moves relatively slowly, cause let me tell you: deer don't sit still the whole time.
Even in World War 2, the Japanese were afraid of invading because there'd be a gun "behind every blade of grass." You can't successfully occupy a country without superior infantry, and we'd have at least a hundred million citizens who would find guns to fight with.
Yet AGAIN china and russia might help korea and russia and china have massive armies so ya.
China wont allow it. China relies on western nations for its economy and attacking America would destroy its economy. You also forgot the US has allies. The moment China or Korea tries anything they will be attacked from the back by the allies in Europe. Russia is actually FRIENDLY to America. They have no quarrel with us and will likely help us. You also forget Korea attacked China in homefront which is retarded because China would decimate the Korean forces. You also fail to realize that multiple superpowers going to war will be fought with NUKES, and not armies.
Actually china is still very pissed off that america hasnt paid there trillion dollar debt and most likely will stop selling to the U.S and since most of the U.S imports are from china that might screw the U.S a bit.Russia isnt really friendly with the U.S since there are still some tensions so dont think there allies.Btw most countries in the world dont like or even hate the U.S so most likely those counties will help in the invasion.And at the end of the day the U.S's allies are canada,the u.k,australia,and france.Other than the u.k and maybe france thats not really a great list.And im pretty sure nukes will be last result since im pretty sure all the countries in the world dont want to blow up the world.
1. America has allies and still has plenty of pull in other countries.
2. Russia and America enjoy good diplomatic relations. Russia has no reason to attack the US.
3. China relies on western consumers for their economy, attacking America would alienate those consumers and damage their own economy. China would be shooting itself in the foot attacking the US.
4. Two superpowers going to war will result in nuclear war always. There is a reason America and Russia never actually attacked each other in the cold war despite tensions. If Russia didn't do it, China wont do it.
The world isn't like COD nor is it still in the cold war era.
No matter what if america has a war on its own soil it will either lose or take alot of casualties because america
hasnt ever had a proper war on its own soil so they wont be prepared.
war of 1812. really, this is just getting embarrassing. America has a lot of nukes and a war on American soil will never happen until nukes become obsolete. This is the same reason no one invades North & South Korea, Russia, or China. They all have nukes and wont hesitate to use them. It has nothing to do with armies.
You also forget that the tech edge America has and the experience of the officers involved. Numbers don't win wars, proper tactics and weaponry do. This is the same reason Russian casualties were so high in WWI and WWII. This isn't COD where they just send in troops without thought, its more like RUSE.
War isn't about numbers or power, its the clever thinking to outsmart your opponent. Example, In RUSE multiplayer I destroyed a
TANK ARMADA using ONLY 3 squads of German paratroopers in an ambush using 1939 tech. It didn't matter that German tanks (in 1939) were weak against the Russian ones nor the fact they outnumbered and outgunned me, i still won.
When did i say this was COD.And russia not only has one of the largest armies but the spetsnaz are some of the most well trained and well equipped soldiers in the world.Btw i love how ironic it is that youre using a video game to back up youre arguement.Oh and the war of 1812 wasnt exactly a proper war since at that time america had just recently become a country which means it never had an invasion plan and america was the one who declared war making it the agressor.And if america is willing to launch nukes at another country just because its getting invaded(i guess standing and fighting is for cowards)then i guess that says something about america.
You are implying the world is like COD where nations declare war for no reason. Countries NEED A REASON TO GO TO WAR. Why would Russia attack the US? Why would it send its troops against US troops? It had no reason, and no benefit. China is reliant on Western nations for its economy, and attacking the US will have serious political consequences that will end up destroying its economy. America was a new country so the war doesn't count? So by your logic WWI and WWII never happened because Germany was a "new" country. You call America out on fighting using nukes while every other country will do the same. China, Russia, North and South Korea, Iran, and many other countries have nukes. China and Russia would never dream of attacking the US without cause. North and South Korea both have nukes making invasion of either of them out of the question. Why do you think the North Korea is still around? Because Kim Jon Il is a charismatic speaker? Please, he is only around because people wont risk the scenario of a nuclear strike against an invasion force.
Russia? Having a well equipped and most trained special forces in the world? Please don't make me laugh. Just because they are portrayed as "specially trained" in COD doesn't mean they are in real life. In reality the British SAS are the best special forces in the world. Maybe you didn't notice this but the year is 2010, the Cold war mentality of "the big bad Russians" has come and gone. Russia has no reason to attack anyone.
War doesn't rely on numbers, it relies on the ability to outsmart your opponent and your ability to mess with his mind. Only in COD do they follow your mentality of war being fought for no reason, with no tactical plan, and relies on spamming soldiers. RUSE (the video) is the best visual example of what i am saying. Numbers =/= a successful invasion. Soldiers don't win wars, its the officers that command them. You have a shitty officer, you lose the war regardless of how many troops he has. Want a real world example? China was losing in WWII against Japan. Japan lost only 500,000 - 1,000,000 soldiers, while China lost a whopping 3 to 4,000,000 soldiers. As i said, numbers don't mean shit if you can't command them.
