Homefront: Not so original?

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Agayek

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GreyKnight3445 said:
Actually its very unoriginal. World in Conflict had a much better setting for it and it was done much much better because there was an actual reason to invade (the USSR said help us to Western Europe, they said no, so they invaded in order to avoid a collapse, and they invaded the U.S. to stop the flow of troops and armor to Europe)
That and there`s no patriotism to see for miles :D
Yea, but Cpl. Bannon annoyed the shit out of me.
 
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Onyx Oblivion said:
It's a gray scale FPS...

IN 'MERICA!

But not like those other shooters than were also in 'MERICA!

Because...um...
Because they say its different! And would they lie to us?
 

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THEJORRRG said:
GreyKnight3445 said:
OT: I think we need a game where you play as a resistance fighter who is in a country invaded by the US. THAT would be an interesting story if done right.
THAT would be banned in a second.
Banned by who? Germany?
 

IronicBeet

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GreyKnight3445 said:
dogstile said:
Tired of seeing threads about this all over the internet.

Its not original, please just get over it. I'm buying it simply to spite you guys.
and it`ll be an epic win for us because you spent 60 bucks on a game we all knew was crap to begin with :d
Right, because you've played the game.

But even if you haven't, if a game isn't original it automatically sucks, right? Like Uncharted, that was a terrible game because it didn't try anything incredibly risky or unique! It doesn't matter how good the gameplay is, or how great the story is, or how good the characters are, it sucks because IT'S NOT ORIGINAL.
 

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It reminds me of Turning Point Fall of Liberty

BUT

As with all games it is wrong to poo poo one until you try it. I will see how it fares when it is released
 

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Nocola said:
I don't know people, I just feel like it's advertised as so different and original when really it's just another gray scale FPS.
Honestly, we can theory-craft all we want, but we can't determine anything until we see how the game is executed (i.e. in a demo).

What the game will come down to is the impact of the voice actors, animation, and visual story-telling.

Currently, I'm ambivalent about whether or not (and in what aspects, i.e. single or multiplayer) this game will be good.

Now the game "World in Conflict" however... that was a good story of an invasion of America. It's also responsible for my favorite video game cinematic:
Embed Doesn't want to work with me [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOK7r1pa74M]
Between that scene and the battle at Cascade Falls, and stunning voice actors it was brilliantly executed.

In the end, whether-or-not its a grayscale FPS doesn't matter: it all comes down to the execution
 

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Ironman126 said:
OP: You mentioned the plot being like Red Dawn. Considering that it was written by John Millius, who wrote Red Dawn, it makes sense.

Personally, i'm looking forward to Homefront. I like the plot and i like the fact that you are aren't just another testosterone-pumped Spec-Ops douche-bag.
A non-spec-ops civilian guy who will still absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns.

I wish someone would make a game that actually made you feel like you were fighting against overwhelming odds, forcing you to use guerrilla tactics and scrounge for ammo. Also, I'd like it to feature anyone but an American in the leading role, preferably I'd like it to feature no Americans at all.

Homefront just sounds boring to me.
 

Ironman126

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Dethpixie said:
A non-spec-ops civilian guy who will still absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns.

I wish someone would make a game that actually made you feel like you were fighting against overwhelming odds, forcing you to use guerrilla tactics and scrounge for ammo. Also, I'd like it to feature anyone but an American in the leading role, preferably I'd like it to feature no Americans at all.

Homefront just sounds boring to me.
Two question:

One: Do you know for a fact that he will "absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns?" And two: Do you game on a console or a PC?

Cuz if you're a PC gamer, then you NEED to check out the STALKER games. They feature Ukrainian player characters who die after 3 or 4 bullets, assuming they have decent armor. They also tend to bleed out and die of radiation poisoning if not properly treated and ammo is never around when you need it. In other words, STALKER meets your requirements.
 

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cjbos81 said:
THEJORRRG said:
GreyKnight3445 said:
OT: I think we need a game where you play as a resistance fighter who is in a country invaded by the US. THAT would be an interesting story if done right.
THAT would be banned in a second.
Banned by who? Germany?
America. Remember how big of a spazz Fox had when the word Taliban was to be used in MoH? Remember how they got 6 Days In Fallujah banned because it had American soldiers in it that got killed?
A USA = bad guys game will NEVER make it to shelves in the current status quo.
 

Yureina

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GreyKnight3445 said:
Actually its very unoriginal. World in Conflict had a much better setting for it and it was done much much better because there was an actual reason to invade (the USSR said help us to Western Europe, they said no, so they invaded in order to avoid a collapse, and they invaded the U.S. to stop the flow of troops and armor to Europe)
That and there`s no patriotism to see for miles :D

OT: I think we need a game where you play as a resistance fighter who is in a country invaded by the US. THAT would be an interesting story if done right.
QFT. World in Conflict is how you do a "America invaded!" game. I wish there was a sequel or something to that in order to continue the story though... :/

As for this game, I don't really care. It doesn't look interesting, and so I'll be content to ignore it unless everyone and their mother's dog tells me that its a good game.
 

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They weren't talking about that scene necessarily. The orignality is the ability to call in anything you want based off of your score, the plot is pretty original in context. Overall, I'd say that pretty nice.
 

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Vykrel said:
Edit: Thanatos, you're crazy. HL2 is amazing, and I'm not that much of a valve fan. Also, I first played the game only a couple years ago. A 2004 game managed to be incredible even by todays standards
(NOTE: Minor grammar edits were made in the above, just because they're pet peeves of mine.)
I'd posit that I simply have a different taste for games than you. Among the things which killed the HL2 experience for me were:
No Iron Sights/Precision Aim system, short of a few specialized weapons
Labyrinthine maps
Uninteresting, faceless antagonists
Uninteresting protagonists
Uninteresting PC
Ill-handled tropes in feeble attempts to push the plot forward.
 

Thanatos5150

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Ironman126 said:
Dethpixie said:
A non-spec-ops civilian guy who will still absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns.

I wish someone would make a game that actually made you feel like you were fighting against overwhelming odds, forcing you to use guerrilla tactics and scrounge for ammo. Also, I'd like it to feature anyone but an American in the leading role, preferably I'd like it to feature no Americans at all.

Homefront just sounds boring to me.
Two question:

One: Do you know for a fact that he will "absorb more ammo than the broad side of most barns?" And two: Do you game on a console or a PC?

Cuz if you're a PC gamer, then you NEED to check out the STALKER games. They feature Ukrainian player characters who die after 3 or 4 bullets, assuming they have decent armor. They also tend to bleed out and die of radiation poisoning if not properly treated and ammo is never around when you need it. In other words, STALKER meets your requirements.
+1. STALKER is a great game. It really is.
 

Vykrel

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Thanatos5150 said:
I'd posit that I simply have a different taste for games than you.
then maybe you shouldnt accuse a game of being over-hyped next time :p just say it wasnt your cup of tea. otherwise, it just sounds like you think everyone else is wrong for loving the game
 

Thanatos5150

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Vykrel said:
Thanatos5150 said:
I'd posit that I simply have a different taste for games than you.
Then maybe you shouldn't accuse a game of being over-hyped next time. :p Just say it wasn't your cup of tea. Otherwise, it just sounds like you think everyone else is wrong for loving the game
(Author's note: Again, Minor grammar-fixes)
That implies that I believe there's a "Right" and a "wrong" way to enjoy games. Which is simply untrue. As a member of the "Games are art" camp, I believe that anyone can enjoy any game they damn' well please for any reason, even if it's only "It goes with my couch, man"-itis.
Hell, I liked Alpha Protocol and honestly cannot understand why Starcraft II is a thing when there's Dawn of War and Dawn of War II on the market. I'm the last person to run around and calling other people "wrong" for their taste in games.
 

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Thanatos5150 said:
Woodsey said:
Korten12 said:
Woodsey said:
I can't find anything remarkable about the game.

They keep throwing about Half-Life 2 in interviews as a point of influence, but all I've seen so far makes that seem a bit of an insult to Valve.
How so is it an insult to Valve?
Because one's HL2 and the other is a rather unremarkable looking shooter. I could be wrong and it could be the second coming, but right now? Nada.
Half Life 2 is a rather unremarkable shooter in it's own right, it just gets unduly hyped up because people love praising Valve. Good studio, yes, but a fan of HL2, I am not.
Kind of odd, because that was one of the games that made their reputation. Only their second single player release. And they took a pretty decent chance with it. Unlike Doom 2, Call Of Duty 2 or Halo 2, it was a pretty big departure from the original, something which is really odd for a sequel to the best selling PC FPS of all time.

HL2 is a very large part of the reason why Valve fanboys exist today. It's the game that proved they were more than a one-trick pony.