Homeland Security and FBI On Hunt for PSN Hackers

[Zeraki]

Good!

And when they do find them, I hope they allow all the people who had their personal information stolen 15 minutes each, to inflict on them the most horrendous punishments they can think of.

Burn them with combustible lemons!


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[zehydra]

While I approve of the FBI doing its job, I don't really see the need to get the DHS involved. It's not like this was a cyber attack against America.

 

[Bags159]

[Everyone knows its Sony's fault completely

How is it Sony's fault that they got hacked? Sure, things could have been more secure - but that is always the case. It's not Sony's fault. How about we agree its your fault for trusting Sony with the information? Or maybe it's a game developer's fault for making Sony popular enough to get hacked. Maybe it's America's fault, for helping to propel the popularity of the internet to the point of online gaming.

How did you miss such blatant sarcasm? Or am I missing your blatant sarcasm?

Anyhoo, this shit just got real. Hope they find out who dunnit. I'm not affected by it but it sucks for those who are.

 

[tthor]

Wow, when this first happened, i figured it was no big deal.. now this is starting to get serious.

Good thing i didn't have a credit card on my PSN account, suckers!

Did you have a netflix account, and if so, do you pay for your netflix with a credit card? Yeah...that info was also available to the hackers. I know, sucks don't it?

nope! W00T, Suck it identity-robbed simpletons! ^0^

 

[Saltyk]

I was wondering when we'd stop the blaming and get some other people involved in the investigation.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS QRIOCITY? AND WHAT DOES IT KILL THE CAT?

I hope they find the hackers, and I hope that they suffer.

You guys are so stupid.

Everyone knows its Sony's fault completely, and everyone knows that the majority of systems are 100% full-proof, so that as soon as one is broken into it was clearly being protected by a mouse-trap and some lubed up floor tiles.

OT: Well can they hurry up? I really can't be arsed to call my bank, and I just got done memorising every single digit related to my debit card, just so that I don't have to search for my wallet every time I buy something online.

I can tell you're a friendly person. Will you be my friend?

So let me get this straight... Someone hacked PSN and that makes it 100% Sony's fault? That makes perfect sense. Don't blame the hacker. Blame the victim. I bet it was the fault of all the people who gave their information to Sony that they got hacked, too. What a bunch of dumb-asses! Idiots! Seriously, if they weren't wearing those slutty clothes. Am I right?

Not only is his sarcasm painfully obvious, he'd already explained that it was sarcasm a couple posts above you. For gods sake.

I'm not surprised, people try to arrest criminals. Good.

Honestly, not sure how to think of your comment. Were you being sarcastic (which would be ironic and kinda funny)? Trying to troll? A little of both? Are you serious? Its because of issues like this, and the whole internet comments not carrying tone very well, that I love my lil /sarcasm tag. Anytime the urge to be sarcastic affects me I just throw that bad boy down and people all know instantly, that I am not being literal.

And, uh, in case YOU haven't read the other comments, we've already discussed the whole sarcasm being lost on the internet thing.

 

[KoalaKid]

So, a funny thought just occurred to mind.

Remember when Anonymous denied involvement in this whole thing? They should be handing us the hackers instead. Because you know where this is going, right? The US Government on the case? It's going to lead to the US making an excuse of this to go after Anonymous, regardless of involvement or not.

Yeah, I can see this happening.

 

[Mxrz]

Uh, digital security and digital terrorism have been big topics of interest for most govts for the past 15 odd years. It has been considered a bigger threat to national security then the remote chance of some muslim radicals planting a dirty bomb in Mayberry for a long while now. So yeah, the govt takes this shit seriously. And we're pretty sure China hasn't been spending millions yearly to recruit and train a pro-govt digital army simply for fucking with Google.

I hope the people are caught too. If the rumors of someone trying to sell 2.2 million credit cards openly are true, then the people responsible are probably amateurs at best though. Which is a bit disappointing. That'd be like those Ocean's 11 guys trying to buy the sports car in Newport.

 

[Antari]

Well this will certainly end quick. Most of you will be my age by the time its all said and done.

 

[jackpipsam]

I wonder if the hackers are from New Zealand

 

[snfonseka]

Lets hope that they can find them.

 

[Comrade_Beric]

Well, that's stupid. From an FBI/Homeland Security standpoint, it's stupid to announce that they're now on the case for two reasons. #1, it lets the hackers know what's being used against them and gives them a chance to respond, and #2 it entirely swaps the results from a PR standpoint. If the FBI had started working on the case and never told anybody, the possible results would have been: Don't catch the guys and nobody knows you failed because no one knew you were looking for them or catch the guys and announce their capture to great applause. Now, instead, the outcomes are: Don't catch the guys and look incompetent or catch them and look like you were only doing your job. Sony is the only party which benefits from the FBI/HS people coming out and telling everyone that they're on it.

EDIT: To clarify, the hackers now know they are being sought. If they're in the US and have passports, they can use any more they've gain from selling CCNs to simply leave before they get caught. Once they're in another country, it'd be a lot harder to get them back, especially if they pick the country very well. An extreme example, but there was no benefit to making the announcement and it opens up this possibility.

 

[Saltyk]

I was wondering when we'd stop the blaming and get some other people involved in the investigation.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS QRIOCITY? AND WHAT DOES IT KILL THE CAT?

I hope they find the hackers, and I hope that they suffer.

You guys are so stupid.

Everyone knows its Sony's fault completely, and everyone knows that the majority of systems are 100% full-proof, so that as soon as one is broken into it was clearly being protected by a mouse-trap and some lubed up floor tiles.

OT: Well can they hurry up? I really can't be arsed to call my bank, and I just got done memorising every single digit related to my debit card, just so that I don't have to search for my wallet every time I buy something online.

I can tell you're a friendly person. Will you be my friend?

So let me get this straight... Someone hacked PSN and that makes it 100% Sony's fault? That makes perfect sense. Don't blame the hacker. Blame the victim. I bet it was the fault of all the people who gave their information to Sony that they got hacked, too. What a bunch of dumb-asses! Idiots! Seriously, if they weren't wearing those slutty clothes. Am I right?

Not only is his sarcasm painfully obvious, he'd already explained that it was sarcasm a couple posts above you. For gods sake.

I'm not surprised, people try to arrest criminals. Good.

Honestly, not sure how to think of your comment. Were you being sarcastic (which would be ironic and kinda funny)? Trying to troll? A little of both? Are you serious? Its because of issues like this, and the whole internet comments not carrying tone very well, that I love my lil /sarcasm tag. Anytime the urge to be sarcastic affects me I just throw that bad boy down and people all know instantly, that I am not being literal.

And, uh, in case YOU haven't read the other comments, we've already discussed the whole sarcasm being lost on the internet thing.

Mate, his sarcasm was obvious. Really obvious. I get that sarcasm isn't always obvious in text, but his was.

This discussion you had with him about it was on a separate page to the comment I quoted. I'm not going to read through two pages, I will however read the thread when there's only around 5 posts.

I'm not trolling, I don't see how you could even think that. I'm just pointing out how disappointing your post was.

Lol. There's something ironic and funny about you reprimanding me for not reading a post that was left three minutes prior to mine and then stating that you can't be bothered to read more than one page.

And, as I said to him, part of me thought he was being sarcastic, but I've read far too many posts like that recently that said the same basic thing and were serious. And I was a little sick of people acting like that.

Also, it wasn't THAT obvious, looking at the comments, at least two other people didn't see it either.

 

[K4RN4GE911]

So.... does anyone else think this will be made into a movie one day? It needs more action tho sure, but I wonder what the full story will be when all is said and done.

You think Moviebob would approve of a movie like that? Well, he did like the Social Network. Hmm.

OT: I'm reminded of a magazine ad in a February 2006 issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly called Hugs for Hackers. It was pretty much like an intervention type website to make said hackers better people.

However, after seeing everything that has been going on this past week and a half, and being a PS3 owner, (thank god I didn't use a credit card) I can't wait to see karma bite these guys/girls/robots/etc. in the ass. Sure, Sony could have had tighter security, but still.

 

[NightlyNews]

So, a funny thought just occurred to mind.

Remember when Anonymous denied involvement in this whole thing? They should be handing us the hackers instead. Because you know where this is going, right? The US Government on the case? It's going to lead to the US making an excuse of this to go after Anonymous, regardless of involvement or not.

It's cute you think Anonymous is strong enough for

A. The government to give a shit and
B. Insanely god like so that they can find out who hacked someone elses system without access to said system.

Sorry but Anonymous isn't dangerous. There's a handful between them that know anything above average about computers. The ones who know more than just how to DDOS servers are normally smart enough not to get involved.

 

[BanthaFodder]

So, a funny thought just occurred to mind.

Remember when Anonymous denied involvement in this whole thing? They should be handing us the hackers instead. Because you know where this is going, right? The US Government on the case? It's going to lead to the US making an excuse of this to go after Anonymous, regardless of involvement or not.

that's a VERY good point...
Anonymous should want these guys brought to justice more than anybody, seeing as how the only defense they have is their own word that they didn't do it (which isn't worth much when it's coming from internet vigilantes). I wouldnt be suprised if it was an Anon who tracks the neckbearded douchebag(s) down in the end.

Did either of you do it? If you say no I expect you to prove it by finding the people that did and making them confess. Afterall, both of you seem to know how to use the internet.

Personally I could care less if they are found. I didn't like sony pre attack, and i'm not exactly loving them post attack.

well, what I really meant was that Anonymous was a HUGE suspect. Sony and the Government aren't exactly Anonyous' biggest fans, so I'd suspect that they'd want to do everything in their power to clear their names now that whoever did this could face SERIOUS jailtime.

 

[FalloutJack]

So, a funny thought just occurred to mind.

Remember when Anonymous denied involvement in this whole thing? They should be handing us the hackers instead. Because you know where this is going, right? The US Government on the case? It's going to lead to the US making an excuse of this to go after Anonymous, regardless of involvement or not.

It's cute you think Anonymous is strong enough for

A. The government to give a shit and
B. Insanely god like so that they can find out who hacked someone elses system without access to said system.

Sorry but Anonymous isn't dangerous. There's a handful between them that know anything above average about computers. The ones who know more than just how to DDOS servers are normally smart enough not to get involved.

Boy are you naive. Neither of your points even matter. It will happen because that is how people THINK. I couldn't care less about who can do what. It was the incredible stink that it raises that concerns me. THAT is the problem. Making a problem WORSE.

 

[NightlyNews]

Boy are you naive. Neither of your points even matter. It will happen because that is how people THINK. I couldn't care less about who can do what. It was the incredible stink that it raises that concerns me. THAT is the problem. Making a problem WORSE.

Despite your randomly capitalized words I failed to see your point. I work for the government and I will enlighten you as to how all government run organizations work. The people with little to no power know way more than they should and probably know and will only work for the government for 2 years max before they leave for something better. The people who have power aka have been there more than 2 years only stayed because they are incompetent.

So, when these incompetent morons look into Anonymous they will see they are harmless and make a stink whenever you bloody mention them. Even if they are "afraid" of them from some news report or something the amount of bullshit between the FBI agents researching this breach and people who can actually change the situation is way to strong.

It won't garner votes solving this problem so no one is breathing down their neck to find an answer. Which means if it isn't immediately obvious who broke in it will never be solved.

Governments aren't based on drama and the decently paid nigh unfireable members of the FBI couldn't give less of a shit what happened to a company.