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thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
 

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Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant (occasionally hyper-destructive) male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
 

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thefrizzlefry said:
Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive. And name one story where a woman is the hero.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
1:Debra. I win.

EDIT:Sorry, meant Deborah. Oh, and that may have come across as argumentative, but for the record, I agree with you.
 

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orannis62 said:
thefrizzlefry said:
Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive. And name one story where a woman is the hero.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
1:Debra. I win.
No, you don't. You need to give a satisfactory answer for both questions to win.
And I edited my last post.
 

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thefrizzlefry said:
orannis62 said:
thefrizzlefry said:
Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive. And name one story where a woman is the hero.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
1:Debra. I win.
No, you don't. You need to give a satisfactory answer for both questions to win.
And I edited my last post.
Read my edit. I meant for that to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I actually agree with you, I just wanted to point out a slight flaw.
 

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Hmmm homophobia is the wrong word to use at least for me. I just find it disgusting simple as that. Non acceptance of a behavior isn't a "phobia" of it, I don't like porn but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of it. Same with homosexuality, pedophile, drug addictions, many fetishes etc.
 

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Jimmyjames said:
I'm not very homophobic, but I am slightly put off by really queeny guys that are obviously trying to act that way. At Comic-Con waaaayyyyy back in 2001 in the Spider-Man panel, I was sitting in front of a guy that kept LOUDY talking about what he wanted to do to Tobey Maguire. Just a little obnoxious.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that that particular guy should've had some consideration for where he was and kept his thoughts to himself. Trust me, though, he doesn't speak for the majority.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
Hmmm homophobia is the wrong word to use at least for me. I just find it disgusting simple as that. Non acceptance of a behavior isn't a "phobia" of it, I don't like porn but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of it. Same with homosexuality, pedophile, drug addictions, many fetishes etc.
Well, maybe the reason you can't accept it is a deep rooted fear. That seems to be what it is most of the time.
 

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Seekster said:
As a guy who likes girls and girls only I would disagree with Shade, I personally find the sight of two women kissing passionately on the lips to be somewhat repulsive (same thing applies to two men in the same scenario). Admitting my opinion is not shared by all my fellow men but then again neither is yours. All due respect to your teacher but he is wrong.
She, actually. It was kind of tongue-in-cheek of her anyways.
 

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thefrizzlefry said:
Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive. And name one story where a woman is the hero.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
1. Esther (you said you wanted "one story" right)
2. Im not fully qualified to answer that question from a theological standpoint for all Christians but I will answer that question based on my own personal beliefs.

Homosexuality (meaning homosexual acts, not the act of being a homosexual) is a sin because it denies the natural sexuality of a human being (in which the two complimentary halfs of male and female are brought into union) and also because in a homosexual relationship you are engaging in sexual acts simply for the sake of carnal pleasure. Catholics believe that sex is meant to always leave the possibility open that new life may be conceived through that union of male and female. I disagree in part. If a married couple (meaning a male and a female and absolutely nothing else) wish to engage in sexual intercourse and use birth control or natural family planning to avoid conceiving a child then that is, in my own personal opinion, not sinful behavior because they are still engaging in an act which cements their feelings for each other and (this is the critical part) there is still some chance that a child may still be conceived (as both sperm and egg are still present in the event) naturally if God wills it. In the case of two men or two women engaging in homosexual acts there is no possibility of natural conception and thus the act loses part of its meaning and becomes something that is simply done for the sake of pleasure and thus loses its deeper meaning.

Call me old fashioned if you want, I will thank you for the compliment.
 

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Me personally, i am probably the least homophobic person ever. About half my friends are gay/bisexual and they are some of the coolest people ever. I've also noticed that the majority of homophobic people are 12 year olds on Xbox Live.
 

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orannis62 said:
sneakypenguin said:
Hmmm homophobia is the wrong word to use at least for me. I just find it disgusting simple as that. Non acceptance of a behavior isn't a "phobia" of it, I don't like porn but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of it. Same with homosexuality, pedophile, drug addictions, many fetishes etc.
Well, maybe the reason you can't accept it is a deep rooted fear. That seems to be what it is most of the time.
Lol I don't think so, what would i have to fear from it(other than the creepiness i find in it) If I don't like pedophiles or taking drugs is that a deeper rooted fear, that i'm secretly a pedo or wanna be drug addict?
 

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Being a straight, God-fearing man, I have no problem with gay people. I think it's the part of a man that wants to be seen as...well....a man. What's the first thing that comes to your mind when you think "man"? You probably think of a masculine, physical, guy. It's a tad hard to wrap your head around around a completely, well, manly guy going from that to a homosexual. I mean, after all, in my opinion, it's a mistake.But then again, it's also not my choice, so whatever.
 

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im not homophobic, because simply i dont care what gay people do
let them have their "fun" time together
it doesn't affect me
 

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Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
Seekster said:
thefrizzlefry said:
In western society, men are expected to be hella-macho twats that run around blowing shit up and talking about how much they love pussy. However, men (unlike women) have embraced their traditional gender role with a disturbing amount of vigor, and since gay men don't loves the pussy at all, they are in direct contradiction to the aforementioned lifestyle and are thus the target of much hate and discrimination.
You see I hate that stereotype (As with most stereotypes it does have at least some truth to it but is no less flawed regardless).

Men are pretty much hardwired to be more welcoming of conflict (especially young men) than women are however after centuries of evolution (yes I am a Christian who believes, at least partially in evolution, not is your chance to take pictures) human beings have the ability to be creatures that do not operate on instinct alone. Personally I think a real Man should find a balance between both his male aggression and the more emotional feminine qualities held by the better half of the human race. That is why men and women NATURALLY go together because they are two sides of the same coin, complimenting and supporting one another.

A "man" who goes around acting like a macho-dominant "twat" is nothing more than a boy with a man's body. A woman who...actually I had better stop there as no man can understand the female mind so I cannot judge women by a similar standard with any reliability.

Also I think Velocirapture07 has the right idea from a Christian standpoint. Acts of homosexuality ARE a sin and homosexuals are sinners...just like the rest of mankind including myself. Love the sinner hate the sin.
2 Things.
1. Christianity (as well as judaism and islam) are based on the concept of the dominant male. Hell, in the old testament, God is nothing if not hyper-destructive. And name one story where a woman is the hero.
2. WHY is homosexuality a sin? It's not like homosexual sex is that much different from heterosexual sex. And you mean to tell me that the same god who created EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF EXISTENCE is really concerned with the sexual preferences of a single species that takes up about as much space as a quark in the grand scheme of things?
1. Esther (you said you wanted "one story" right)
2. Im not fully qualified to answer that question from a theological standpoint for all Christians but I will answer that question based on my own personal beliefs.

Homosexuality (meaning homosexual acts, not the act of being a homosexual) is a sin because it denies the natural sexuality of a human being (in which the two complimentary halfs of male and female are brought into union) and also because in a homosexual relationship you are engaging in sexual acts simply for the sake of carnal pleasure. Catholics believe that sex is meant to always leave the possibility open that new life may be conceived through that union of male and female. I disagree in part. If a married couple (meaning a male and a female and absolutely nothing else) wish to engage in sexual intercourse and use birth control or natural family planning to avoid conceiving a child then that is, in my own personal opinion, not sinful behavior because they are still engaging in an act which cements their feelings for each other and (this is the critical part) there is still some chance that a child may still be conceived (as both sperm and egg are still present in the event) naturally if God wills it. In the case of two men or two women engaging in homosexual acts there is no possibility of natural conception and thus the act loses part of its meaning and becomes something that is simply done for the sake of pleasure and thus loses its deeper meaning.

Call me old fashioned if you want, I will thank you for the compliment.


Damn. He just shut you down, son.
 

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Kind of off-topic but, I've never understood why it is "homophobia" because doesn't that mean an irrational fear of humans?
 

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Seekster said:
...If a married couple (meaning a male and a female and absolutely nothing else) wish to engage in sexual intercourse and use birth control or natural family planning to avoid conceiving a child then that is, in my own personal opinion, not sinful behavior because they are still engaging in an act which cements their feelings for each other and (this is the critical part) there is still some chance that a child may still be conceived (as both sperm and egg are still present in the event) naturally if God wills it...
Hmm... So if a couple wanted to cement their feelings and science developed a method to make a 0% chance of inception, then it WOULD be a sin, even if they were a male and female?
 
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They're grossly misinformed/ignorant and are afraid of gay people.

Or they could be religious.

There was an interesting documentary on TV in Britain a while ago where 2 homophobic men were forced to spend a week with 2 homosexual men.