Nobody remembers KotOR? Juhani and the female Jedi? (And quite a few more that don't yet come to mind). Also, Fable and Sims 2 (Obviously, they've been mentioned previously but deserve to be mentioned again). I'm not 100% sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a gay sex scene in The Witcher (I'm only able to play about half an hour of that game before my computer craps out). If you've ever read a fanfiction on the internet, you will find that just about every character has mysteriously turned gay. I think Tommy (A character who had a short scene with one of the main characters in which he creeps her out with a tarot card reading) from Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy was gay (I recall there were some hints at it). There are probably more that I missed
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I dunno. Gay Tony, the other gay character in GTA4, is also over-the-top flamboyant. I'm willing to believe that these characters are supposed to be lampooning stereotypes, but it still doesn't come off as very funny.apsham said:
They could always make a game where the hero's love interest is anothet guy, but not treat it any more or less important than if it were a female instead. Really though, until homosexuals are truly considered equals, gay characters in games will either be very stereotyped, or non-existant, but then there will also be those that come off as homosexual or something.
If anyone's looking for an overtly camp character, try Zhang He off of Dynasty Warriors.
Wears make-up and tight fitting clothes and never shuts up about beauty... Weird guy that one.
Just to clarify I'm not anti gay/lesbian in any way, I'm just not gay myself.
Wears make-up and tight fitting clothes and never shuts up about beauty... Weird guy that one.
Just to clarify I'm not anti gay/lesbian in any way, I'm just not gay myself.
This'll help the discussion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_characters_in_video_games - my personal favourite homosexual in games was Trevor from Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh. He is the kind of guy I would so be great pals with.....and hell, maybe more.
I was REALLY hoping there'd be some male love for male Shepard too, damnit. I hope this will be rectified in the sequel!
I was REALLY hoping there'd be some male love for male Shepard too, damnit. I hope this will be rectified in the sequel!
I want a FF with a love story between 2 male leads. Not just innuendo though, which applies to most of the FF games anyway.
They did it in Jade Empire. Well it was only just relationships and nothing more but still, all for equality.Terrortree said:
Oh and I also remembered, Ashton from Star Ocean 2, who MIGHT be gay as the ending with him and Claude implies it when they have a "man-date" but well he IS my fave character of the game.
Homosexuality doesn't bug me in characters unless it's that really annoying stereotype, which is annoying for 2 reasons
1) It's a stereotype
2) The stereotype is so flamboyant and in your face it makes me dislike that person
It's why I dread the next installment of GTA featuring a gay character as all their gay characters have conformed to the stereotype (that Johnny guy you chase on a motorbike for OG Loc in San Andreas, Bernie Crane/Florian Cravic in GTA4)
But if they're sexuality is subtley done so it makes them look comfortable and that they have more important things on their mind than it then I'm all for it
1) It's a stereotype
2) The stereotype is so flamboyant and in your face it makes me dislike that person
It's why I dread the next installment of GTA featuring a gay character as all their gay characters have conformed to the stereotype (that Johnny guy you chase on a motorbike for OG Loc in San Andreas, Bernie Crane/Florian Cravic in GTA4)
But if they're sexuality is subtley done so it makes them look comfortable and that they have more important things on their mind than it then I'm all for it
I do remember that quite well.. what actually upset me is that LA made them drop that part out from a climax ( pun half intended) as that really was a relationship you had to really work on and build up... where as most others are pretty easy to stumble into by default... It would have been in my opinion one of the most genuine romance options to date.DI7789 said:
now with ME, as much as I love how much emotion they tried to put into it, and as much as I liked Liara, she seems to be after my "eternity" almost from the start, and you so much as nod to her as you pass her in a hall and she's yours.. getting Ash " though I was not too fond of her personally" would have been more of a challenge given her personality.
In fable 2 I noticed though that if you flirt enough with a straight character, you can break them down to being bi, or even gay/lesbian over time.
" I do point out on that I have 4 wives " including the countess" and one hubby, just because I wanted kids...who never freaking age! "
again in a recent one, SR2 slipped some npc lady love into it when you do the escort runs...though I was quite heartbroken that when ho-ing there was always a male voice...
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"I'm all for gay characters, as long as their sexuality isn't their defining feature. Gay is a sexuality, not a type of personality."
What exactly do you mean by that? That they aren't flamboyant, or just that they don't go much beyond mentioning it?
I find that a lot of RPG characters flaunt their *heterosexuality* and if that's ok, why not the other way around?
Would you be upset if FF8 had been a love story between Squall and another male instead of Rinoa?
Just curious...
"I'm all for gay characters, as long as their sexuality isn't their defining feature. Gay is a sexuality, not a type of personality."
What exactly do you mean by that? That they aren't flamboyant, or just that they don't go much beyond mentioning it?
I find that a lot of RPG characters flaunt their *heterosexuality* and if that's ok, why not the other way around?
Would you be upset if FF8 had been a love story between Squall and another male instead of Rinoa?
Just curious...
Without knowing about Florian's history, that's quite an assumption, and sadly, my personal experience with gay guys does indicate that there is a minority who have repressed themselves, and later in life, become camp & flamboyant.keptsimple said:
(Apologies if that sounded homophobic. It's not intended to be. I am openly gay, and I am in a relationship. Both of us are avid gamers, and I've nver ever been bothered about the sexuality of NPCs, or even main characters.)
The problem with the camp & flamboyant representations is that it doesn't represent the broad scale of diversity, but because camp characters are more memorable and noticeable, they leave more of an impression on straight people, and as a result, become stereotypes.
If developers are going to insist on games with gay characters, I would like to see a more open attempt to diversify rather than just put a guy with a pink cravat & slight lisp in and call themselves liberal game developers.
Perhaps it's most important with RPGs (particularly MMORPGs), and with open ended games which rely on the player being able to impart something of themselves into their character.
Bottom line though....Monkfish pretty much said everything there is to say, and I'm just waffling.
First I will make clear that I am a straight male to help put my points into perspective.Abedeus said:
I tend to actually play female protagonists more if given the choice, mostly out of my admiration for strong female heroes that can be interesting and likable without getting their breasts out. I have no patience for the "rough, bad-ass" under-charismatic male leads that litter so many mainstream titles. It's one-dimensional rubbish for the chauvinist pig demographic who, themselves, imagine they are some kind of faux-macho action hero with a magnetic attraction to danger and skinny blond women outfitted with medicine balls for breasts.
In Mass Effect, I did play as the female Shepard and did pursue the romance dialog with the male NPC (his name escapes me). I saw no problem in doing so, after all, their intent was for a smooth cinematic presentation, right? It was well-written if anything though I couldn't shake the niggling fact that the male NPC's voice actor was the guy who did Carth and female Shepard's actress also did Bastilla, both from Star Wars: KOTOR; I kept waiting for a 2 hour dialog of Wookie growling.
In my second play-through I was the female Shepard again and chose the dialog path with the Asari instead, and honestly, their "love" scene was just creepy as hell with all the psychedelic effects and her coal black eyes. By the end, having the realization that I just made Shepard a Lesbian didn't really bother me at all. It becomes a footnote when compared to the rest of the main plot and her role in the story, besides the fact that neither your nor Llara's dialog for expressing your feelings for each other aren't very well written or characterized.
Honestly, I think that is a unfair for any homosexual male players who were unable to pursue a romance arc to their tastes. I thought everyone within the 20-40 age group that works in the game industry were mature adults, I guess I was wrong. I'd have no problem if it were included, this is all optional side-quest material anyway. And even though it's optional, it should still be fair to everyone's preferences.
Well for most characters you don't know if they're gay or not since their sexuality never comes up in the game. For example how can you tell if say Master Chief or Gordon Freeman are gay or straight? You can't since gay people really don't act any different then straight people.
It's heavily assumed they are straight because they both work alongside a female through parts of the games in their respective series. Besides, let's face it Cortana is one hot piece of computer code.pffh said:
The only time I think it good when they have gays in games is when they fit the stereotype so well. I love laughing at stereotypes because I know a few gay girls and they act nothing like the stereotype.
Who was that noble in Morrowind? I think he was a House Hlaalu, to get his support in your bid to become house leader he expected you to take off your clothes.
El Burro from GTA.
Army Of Two? Okay cheap shot...
Considering the recent articles on how sexuality is (poorly) handled in games, one can expect that it will be even longer before any palatable depictions of homosexuality come about.
El Burro from GTA.
Army Of Two? Okay cheap shot...
Considering the recent articles on how sexuality is (poorly) handled in games, one can expect that it will be even longer before any palatable depictions of homosexuality come about.
