Yeah I probably shouldn't butt in like that.s0denone said:First off: I don't believe he was talking to you. Regardless of the validity of your point, I don't think you should suddenly make a rather small argument into a three-ways one. Enough of my being a policing asshole though. Here is my question, and why I quoted you:Yoshemo said:"seems" is not the same as "is." I find anyone that gets drunk on purpose as not only unattractive, but pathetic as well
"Pathetic"? Why?
So I look better to myself, but like a twat to anyone who isn't drunk?Pararaptor said:You could have a mask & be drunk, thus stacking your confidence. And when you're drunk everyone just seems more attractive, including yourself.TheEvilJester said:Dude, I can be confident without getting drunk. All I need is a mask. And how the hell does getting drunk make you attractive?Pararaptor said:Because it feels really great? And it's a reasonable trade-off for increased confidence, singing ability & all-around attractiveness?ProfessorLayton said:I'm with this dude... and the reason is because of the OP. Why would I ever not want to have control of my actions like that?Marter said:I will never get drunk, nor will I drink alcohol. No desire to experience either of those.
EDIT: Oh right, I forgot to mention, I have not gotten drunk, I have never drunk any alcohols, and don't intend to.
I'm sorry but i think your lying to yourself a little. I used to say that i would never smoke and I would never drink only last year now i have done both a few times. Its not that big of a deal you just have to be careful how you use em and if you do get drunk NEVER drive. I could be wrong and you might never do these things but don't think badly of yourself if you do but if you don't hell more power to you.Marter said:I will never get drunk, nor will I drink alcohol. No desire to experience either of those.
I wasn't intending to judge, why so aggressive? I was simply stating from personal experience that constantly going out and getting shitfaced hammered is a bad idea, but like you said, if there's something to celebrate or whatnot then sometimes you just let loose and don't care.s0denone said:Getting hammered is never okay? How about celebrating being done with school, finishing a 2-week project at work, or something?anthony87 said:Getting drunk is okay.
Getting hammered isn't.
Now that you've taken your first step, you have to find out what your limits are and learn to pace yourself so you don't end up like a drunken wreck everytime you go out.
Some would celebrate by bringing a cute girl home, others by getting smashed with their mates. Some mix it up. Who are you to judge, and why?
First off: I don't believe he was talking to you. Regardless of the validity of your point, I don't think you should suddenly make a rather small argument into a three-ways one. Enough of my being a policing asshole though. Here is my question, and why I quoted you:Yoshemo said:"seems" is not the same as "is." I find anyone that gets drunk on purpose as not only unattractive, but pathetic as well
"Pathetic"? Why?
I'm not lying to myself. I will not drink alcohol. It's that simple. I have reasons for this choice, and I will stick to it. I've grown up with alcoholics, and seen how it can destroy a family. I'm not going to put that stress on anyone else.WrcklessIntent said:I'm sorry but i think your lying to yourself a little. I used to say that i would never smoke and I would never drink only last year now i have done both a few times. Its not that big of a deal you just have to be careful how you use em and if you do get drunk NEVER drive. I could be wrong and you might never do these things but don't think badly of yourself if you do but if you don't hell more power to you.
Well you certainly have a very low opinion of your fellow man, or at least your graduation class.Yoshemo said:Yeah I probably shouldn't butt in like that.
As for pathetic, I see alcohol as just another drug like pot, coke, or other stuff. It just happens to be legal. I see drunks as weak willed people who can't enjoy anything unless there's alcohol. I've been to plenty of parties where once they find out there's no alcohol, half the people just leave. Mostly everyone in my graduating class was either a drunk or a pot addict.. And all of them were dimwitted sheep who never did anything if it wasn't "cool" I know it doesn't apply to all drinkers, or maybe even most of them. But its what I see in my town
I wasn't being aggressive, didn't you see the smiley? Come on, I included it for that very reason!anthony87 said:I wasn't intending to judge, why so aggressive? I was simply stating from personal experience that constantly going out and getting shitfaced hammered is a bad idea, but like you said, if there's something to celebrate or whatnot then sometimes you just let loose and don't care.
At the same time what one person considers "getting hammered" is probably a quiet evening to someone else.
You seem to be under the impression that if you drink any alcohol you will become an alcholic. I'm sorry but thats just stupid. You can still drink alcohol just in moderation and not be an idiot when you use it. God dammit your makin me sound like a parent...Marter said:I'm not lying to myself. I will not drink alcohol. It's that simple. I have reasons for this choice, and I will stick to it. I've grown up with alcoholics, and seen how it can destroy a family. I'm not going to put that stress on anyone else.WrcklessIntent said:I'm sorry but i think your lying to yourself a little. I used to say that i would never smoke and I would never drink only last year now i have done both a few times. Its not that big of a deal you just have to be careful how you use em and if you do get drunk NEVER drive. I could be wrong and you might never do these things but don't think badly of yourself if you do but if you don't hell more power to you.
Ah I apologise, I didn't notice the smiley. ^_^s0denone said:Well you certainly have a very low opinion of your fellow man, or at least your graduation class.Yoshemo said:Yeah I probably shouldn't butt in like that.
As for pathetic, I see alcohol as just another drug like pot, coke, or other stuff. It just happens to be legal. I see drunks as weak willed people who can't enjoy anything unless there's alcohol. I've been to plenty of parties where once they find out there's no alcohol, half the people just leave. Mostly everyone in my graduating class was either a drunk or a pot addict.. And all of them were dimwitted sheep who never did anything if it wasn't "cool" I know it doesn't apply to all drinkers, or maybe even most of them. But its what I see in my town
I'll use myself as an example, as I don't think I'm "pathetic" in any sort of way. Partying is about alcohol, to me. I might as well be frank. I don't require being wasted, but I do require it to be possible.
I don't do anything for anyone other than me.
Alcohol helps you loosen up, really boosts your confidence and takes away boundaries. It's fun. It's not something I do throughout the week, but on the weekends. I've done pot, coke and "other stuff" as well, and neither of those because they "were cool". I just want to try life; see what it has to offer.
I've had some of the most fun times of my life when I've been drunk, because the drunkeness of myself and others have led to some incredibly hilarious situations in hindsight. At first you think "Holy shit, I did what????" and maybe feel an ounce of regret... Soon you can laugh about it, and enjoy how much you aren't bound to the rules and norms of society.
EDIT: What has been said has been said. That was a poor wording. I meant to say something like "Soon you can laugh about it, and enjoy how you are still able to distance yourself from your every-day, and do something out of the ordinary.
Also, you will go to a bar to pick up women with you mates, and not get drunk? What???
I wasn't being aggressive, didn't you see the smiley? Come on, I included it for that very reason!anthony87 said:I wasn't intending to judge, why so aggressive? I was simply stating from personal experience that constantly going out and getting shitfaced hammered is a bad idea, but like you said, if there's something to celebrate or whatnot then sometimes you just let loose and don't care.
At the same time what one person considers "getting hammered" is probably a quiet evening to someone else.
Well, to you it may seem like a bad idea, but you can really test yourself and see how long you can go. I remember when I graduated high school - I went out for 8 days straight, probably a combined 40 hours of sleep, averaging at 5 a night(which was sometimes day). That was celebratory, yes.
I would advice against getting shitfaced every time you are drunk as well, although it can be very funny, and in my younger years I did little but that. I'd say you have to experience it, but that again I'd say that about just anything, so maybe I'm the wrong guy.
Also, "getting hammered" can only mean getting hammered. It doesn't matter how much you can drink - we are talking about a level of drunk, the one where you're fucking hammered. I don't think anyone stays at home, and have a quiet night while being fucking hammered.![]()
I'm not under that impression. I do know that alcoholism can be inherited though. No reason to even take the risk the way I see it.WrcklessIntent said:You seem to be under the impression that if you drink any alcohol you will become an alcholic. I'm sorry but thats just stupid. You can still drink alcohol just in moderation and not be an idiot when you use it. God dammit your makin me sound like a parent...
That's exactly the reason I don't get drunk.ProfessorLayton said:I'm with this dude... and the reason is because of the OP. Why would I ever not want to have control of my actions like that?Marter said:I will never get drunk, nor will I drink alcohol. No desire to experience either of those.
Based off your scale, I've only hit about a 2. And realistically, that's as much as I want. Helps me chill, but I still remember everything. Best of both worlds.B2kCyclops said:Gratz, I guess.
Only one more thing to ask:
Drunk or REALLY drunk?
Since there are (at least) five stages of drunk, choose wich one:
1. - "Last night was awesome. I really had fun."
2. - "Last night was awesome. I really had fun. Friggin' hangover."
3. - "Last night was awesome. At least what I remember. Friggin' hangover"
4. - "I will never, ever, do that again. I'd rather put my balls into- uaargh*puke*."
5. - "WTF? Who are you? Where are my pants? What? No, it's not tuesday, it's saturday! Or not?"
Good times.
Thats the thing. I don't -need- alcohol to loosen up and have fun. I do crazy fun things on my own, and so do my friends. I think wobbling around and feeling sick would actually make things less fun. Especially hangovers.s0denone said:snip