How can some gamers call Japanese Xenophobic for not accepting western gaming?

[scar_47]

I'll back the fallout in america argument since so much of the game comes from that 50's world of tomorrow mixed with americana, without that vibe its not fallout. Beyond the few games where the country really is a huge part of the game the location doesn't really matter to me. I think a lot of it has to do with developers writing in a familiar setting and its a lot easier for any writer to write what they know about culturally as opposed to doing the work of making GTA Brazil feel like it takes place in Brazil. For that to work you'd need to have people intimately familiar with the culture of wherever the game is taking place teaching the developer about that culture and making sure the game made it feel authentic, since theres very little point in saying a game takes place in say Norway if it doesn't reflect norwegian culture to a fair extent.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

Maybe it's because most western games hold up ideals that the Japanese don't agree with. You know, not everyone plays a cold war game and thinks 'lets stop the commie bastards!' without thinking. Not everyone sees a guy with a turban on and instantly thinks terrorist.

Is it xenephobia to try to make your own countries companies better by buying into them when your economy has been all over the place for the last decade? I dunno, i can see why they might want to go down that route. Coming from England i don't really have the moral high ground to judge or call xenephobia on anyone else.

You've gotta judge the subject matter for games aswell...usually war. Who is the most warlike race on the planet? Who likes to be involved where they shouldn't be? Who needs very little excuse or reasoning, and such storyline, to justify a game? Who uses overpowered technology to prove their opinions are the only option? Thats right folks...the USA. It all fits together so nicely...why would they want to change it?

I'm neither for or against by the way, just trying to balance up the arguments.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I'm pretty sure most people call them Xenophobic because their xenophobic.

And as almost always when commenting on this site, I'm speaking from experience so shut up.

Wow. You just made yourself sound like an asshole with no point to make. Congrats. (Also wrong "they're".)

Right back at you buddy.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

So the fact that a country is 99% monolithically the same culture precludes xenophobia just because they're not exactly the same thing?
No, I'm not saying Japan is xenophobic because of their population distribution, I am saying that Japan is xenophobic (period) which might be symptomatic of the fact that their lack of cultural exposure (due to the 99% Japanese) prevents them from understanding other cultures. Also, that the fact that they are xenophobic might be an explanation for their dislike of Western games.

The fact that Japanese are xenophobic is a separate issue from population dynamics.

In case you're wondering:
I'm not insulting Japan by saying they're xenophobic anymore than I'm insulting America for being fat and arrogant, or for saying the French are elitist and stuck in the past. These are just cultural things.
*(I am American/French)

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

So the fact that a country is 99% monolithically the same culture precludes xenophobia just because they're not exactly the same thing?
No, I'm not saying Japan is xenophobic because of their population distribution, I am saying that Japan is xenophobic (period) which might be symptomatic of the fact that their lack of cultural exposure (due to the 99% Japanese) prevents them from understanding other cultures. Also, that the fact that they are xenophobic might be an explanation for their dislike of Western games.

The fact that Japanese are xenophobic is a separate issue from population dynamics.

In case you're wondering:
I'm not insulting Japan by saying they're xenophobic anymore than I'm insulting America for being fat and arrogant, or for saying the French are elitist and stuck in the past. These are just cultural things.
*(I am American/French)

But what I said before was that, even non-Japanese people, people in America, also tend to dislike the traditional "western" style of games when they happen to be into the Japanese style, which is also an explanation as to why Japanese people too don't like that style. That explanation being totally without any relation to xenophobia since Americans can't be xenophobic of their own games while they tend to display similar dislike of them as the one Japanese folk do, making the Japanese one too also non-xenophobic due to it's similarity to the American dislike.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

So the fact that a country is 99% monolithically the same culture precludes xenophobia just because they're not exactly the same thing?
No, I'm not saying Japan is xenophobic because of their population distribution, I am saying that Japan is xenophobic (period) which might be symptomatic of the fact that their lack of cultural exposure (due to the 99% Japanese) prevents them from understanding other cultures. Also, that the fact that they are xenophobic might be an explanation for their dislike of Western games.

The fact that Japanese are xenophobic is a separate issue from population dynamics.

In case you're wondering:
I'm not insulting Japan by saying they're xenophobic anymore than I'm insulting America for being fat and arrogant, or for saying the French are elitist and stuck in the past. These are just cultural things.
*(I am American/French)

But what I said before was that, even non-Japanese people, people in America, also tend to dislike the traditional "western" style of games when they happen to be into the Japanese style, which is also an explanation as to why Japanese people too don't like that style. That explanation being totally without any relation to xenophobia since Americans can't be xenophobic of their own games while they tend to display similar dislike of them as the one Japanese folk do, making the Japanese one too also non-xenophobic due to it's similarity to the American dislike.

Not to be rude, I literally cannot be sure what your trying to say. Rephrase it perhaps.

What I think you mean is that Japan has been known to dislike Western games, and America has also been known to dislike some Western games.

Well, yeah, because some Western games suck, no matter where you are. You seem to be implying that Japanese games are more popular in America as well as more popular in Japan- but that's not true at all. That's like saying that Japanese gamers don't like Japanese games because some Japanese games are terrible.

If a person prefers a Japanese style of game, they will be less likely to enjoy a Western style of game- which is pretty logical as they are quite different, and have differences in mechanics that appeal to different people.
But that's also not the point, the point is that Western cultures are more accepting of Japanese games than the Japanese are of Western games. So the fact that some people in Western cultures prefer Japanese games isn't proving your point, it's contrasting it.

Unless that is your point, in which case, why are you arguing?

 

[Stall]

Actually, Japanese culture is pretty xenophobic. It's not just because they don't like X-Box, but because it's a pretty big part of their underlying culture. Not only have I read this (mainly in UN reports), but some friends (mainly Korean...some Chinese) have told me that it's not unusual for the Japanese to hate non-Japanese Asians. Again, from what I have read, it's starting to get better, but they are still a pretty xenophobic bunch of people. It's pretty ignorant to claim that the Japanese aren't xenophobic.

Japan isn't some super-awesome utopia, you know...

 

[Collymilad]

I don't know if the Japanese are Xenophobic, but you definitely get the impression they like to let's say "look after their own" a bit more obviously than other countries. It stretches well beyond gaming (workplaces etc)

Not that there's anything wrong with that, just saying before I get jumped on.

It does strike me as odd though that the 360 does as poorly as it has done. I mean yes of course the failure rate can be blamed, but then that doesn't really account for the poor sales in the first 6-12 months. You can't exactly deny that MS has made efforts to appeal to that area either, especially in comparison to last gen.

It might not be cool on a gaming site to say that kind of stuff, but I think there's definitely an element of it.

As for the games themselves...well I don't know about others but imo Japanese gaming has taken a dive this gen. In the PS1 days and to a lesser extent PS2 days the majority of the games I owned and loved were probably 90% Japanese made and 10% others. This gen it's probably the other way around..

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

So the fact that a country is 99% monolithically the same culture precludes xenophobia just because they're not exactly the same thing?
No, I'm not saying Japan is xenophobic because of their population distribution, I am saying that Japan is xenophobic (period) which might be symptomatic of the fact that their lack of cultural exposure (due to the 99% Japanese) prevents them from understanding other cultures. Also, that the fact that they are xenophobic might be an explanation for their dislike of Western games.

The fact that Japanese are xenophobic is a separate issue from population dynamics.

In case you're wondering:
I'm not insulting Japan by saying they're xenophobic anymore than I'm insulting America for being fat and arrogant, or for saying the French are elitist and stuck in the past. These are just cultural things.
*(I am American/French)

But what I said before was that, even non-Japanese people, people in America, also tend to dislike the traditional "western" style of games when they happen to be into the Japanese style, which is also an explanation as to why Japanese people too don't like that style. That explanation being totally without any relation to xenophobia since Americans can't be xenophobic of their own games while they tend to display similar dislike of them as the one Japanese folk do, making the Japanese one too also non-xenophobic due to it's similarity to the American dislike.

Not to be rude, I literally cannot be sure what your trying to say. Rephrase it perhaps.

What I think you mean is that Japan has been known to dislike Western games, and America has also been known to dislike some Western games.

Well, yeah, because some Western games suck, no matter where you are. You seem to be implying that Japanese games are more popular in America as well as more popular in Japan- but that's not true at all. That's like saying that Japanese gamers don't like Japanese games because some Japanese games are terrible.

If a person prefers a Japanese style of game, they will be less likely to enjoy a Western style of game- which is pretty logical as they are quite different, and have differences in mechanics that appeal to different people.
But that's also not the point, the point is that Western cultures are more accepting of Japanese games than the Japanese are of Western games. So the fact that some people in Western cultures prefer Japanese games isn't proving your point, it's contrasting it.

Unless that is your point, in which case, why are you arguing?

What I said was that there are Americans who enjoy Japanese-style games that also tend to dislike the "traditional western" type of game in a way identical to the way Japanese people dislike western games. Making the Japanese people not xenophobic but simply people who prefer a certain style over another due to it's merits and characteristics.


It's not about something being better or worse, it's just that Japanese style games are DIFFERENT and people who like them are attracted to whatever it is that differentiates them from western games, in turn also resulting in those people similarly disliking western games for lacking the elements they enjoy in Japanese style games.

 

[VanTesla]

I was involved in a little conversation a while back regarding the Japanese not having an interest in the Xbox, and much of the discussion was made up of rather angry rants targeted at the Japanese and how they were xenophobic, backwards and unwilling to change or accept anything outside their culture.

Today another conversation came up concerning FPS titles and how they are usually always situated in the USA, which by me is fine, but it brought to mind the fact that for us outside of the US, it's hard to identify because these places we are seeing some of us barely know or haven't visited enough to feel an attachment to, not that it makes the game any less fun otherwise they wouldn't sell so well. So I asked the question, why can't more games take place in other locales with other cultures or countries as the heroes? To which the reply was (like the many "Why can't fallout be in other countries" topics on here), 'US is the biggest gaming market, so its only right that developers design with us in mind', which is fair, but 90% of the time? Really? If that's the case, its pretty hard to point fingers at Japanese gamers for not accepting anything outside their culture.

Now its awesome that Crysis 2 took place in New York, but I would have preferred to play it in Shanghai for example or heck, a GTA in the Caribbean, I've seen games done in New York too many times now and it's kind of lost it's charm. I know, I know, demographics and such, but the mass can get used to it over time and it certainly wouldn't stop Fallout 4 for example being any more fun just because it takes place in Indonesia, wouldn't that too make gamers more cultured?

What do you think? Would you like to see more gaming in other countries with other countries as the heroes for once, or do you disagree? Do you still think the Japanese are xenophobic and if so, how is this different?

Who ever says the Japanese are xenophobic are probably xenophobic to the Japanese... Also that is pure ignorance for our cultures have intertwined immensely from Holidays, comics/manga, games(they enjoy western games as we enjoy they're games), many love cowboys and westerns, many of us love Samurai and the Edo period.

Many Japanese play FPS, but it is not as big for it has to do with culture differences on how they enjoy more social, story, and puzzle driven games. It's about togetherness and less about competition, more about honor and less about being number one. Then we have our more perversive side that both societies have. USA is more violence happy and Japanese are more sex happy. This is not meaning every gamer of either side is like this though.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

The Japanese are rather known for their Xenophobia, so the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Western contributions to gaming could be seen as a symptom of that. Of course, it is interesting that most American productions are so Ameri-centric as to be ludicrous in some intsances, but that's kind of beside the point.

Many Japanese are xenophobic, is that why Western games aren't big there? I dunno. Japanese games are bigger here than American games are there, and you can chock that up to culture clashes, but it doesn't explain why so many Americans love "very Japanese" games.

Americans are a wide variety of people, the ones who tend to like "very Japanese" stuff often don't much like the stuff that actual Japanese folks don't like as well. It's a style, unique, with fans and haters, like most other things. Whether you're Japanese or not, liking Japanese style games is often connected with a bunch of other kind of activities you enjoy and the folks into that generally are not that into the typical "western" style of game.

Yes, and Japan is not a very diverse group, which is probably how the xenophobia maintains to this day. Besides, how does Japan not have a market force of Western loving gamers to match America's love of Japanese games if it's just a matter of taste? There is one, certainly, but it's not nearly as great as the Japan-loving market force in America. Probably this lack of taste for Western sensibilities comes from a lack of exposure to them. I think the idea that Japanese xenophobia might be to blame for lack of acceptance of Western games is not to be dismissed out of hand, as it could be the result of various greater social issues and histories.

America contains a much larger population, more young people in that population and a huge ethnic variety in those people. Japan's people are 99% Japanese. Only 1% are foreigners, that leads to a much more mono-culture which is less prone to be open to experiencing different things.

That, is different to xenophobia.

So the fact that a country is 99% monolithically the same culture precludes xenophobia just because they're not exactly the same thing?
No, I'm not saying Japan is xenophobic because of their population distribution, I am saying that Japan is xenophobic (period) which might be symptomatic of the fact that their lack of cultural exposure (due to the 99% Japanese) prevents them from understanding other cultures. Also, that the fact that they are xenophobic might be an explanation for their dislike of Western games.

The fact that Japanese are xenophobic is a separate issue from population dynamics.

In case you're wondering:
I'm not insulting Japan by saying they're xenophobic anymore than I'm insulting America for being fat and arrogant, or for saying the French are elitist and stuck in the past. These are just cultural things.
*(I am American/French)

But what I said before was that, even non-Japanese people, people in America, also tend to dislike the traditional "western" style of games when they happen to be into the Japanese style, which is also an explanation as to why Japanese people too don't like that style. That explanation being totally without any relation to xenophobia since Americans can't be xenophobic of their own games while they tend to display similar dislike of them as the one Japanese folk do, making the Japanese one too also non-xenophobic due to it's similarity to the American dislike.

Not to be rude, I literally cannot be sure what your trying to say. Rephrase it perhaps.

What I think you mean is that Japan has been known to dislike Western games, and America has also been known to dislike some Western games.

Well, yeah, because some Western games suck, no matter where you are. You seem to be implying that Japanese games are more popular in America as well as more popular in Japan- but that's not true at all. That's like saying that Japanese gamers don't like Japanese games because some Japanese games are terrible.

If a person prefers a Japanese style of game, they will be less likely to enjoy a Western style of game- which is pretty logical as they are quite different, and have differences in mechanics that appeal to different people.
But that's also not the point, the point is that Western cultures are more accepting of Japanese games than the Japanese are of Western games. So the fact that some people in Western cultures prefer Japanese games isn't proving your point, it's contrasting it.

Unless that is your point, in which case, why are you arguing?

What I said was that there are Americans who enjoy Japanese-style games that also tend to dislike the "traditional western" type of game in a way identical to the way Japanese people dislike western games. Making the Japanese people not xenophobic but simply people who prefer a certain style over another due to it's merits and characteristics.

Yeah that's kind of what I though you meant so my first reply to this still stands.
So, to give my final analysis of this:

1) The Japanese are xenophobic. Debate it if you want, but know you're arguing against the fact that they are a group that has a history of oppressing the Chinese, is a small island nation of monolithic nationality, on the ethnic cleansing debate sided with Hitler, are very traditional and don't like change (especially from foreigners), closed their borders to all foreigners at least twice in their history, and still has racist and unpleasant attitudes toward the non-Japanese and all immigrants.
1) a) I like the Japanese culture, I have great respect for the Japanese, and this is not hate speech against them.

2) The Japanese gaming community has never accepted Western games (basically at all), certainly not to the extent that American gamers have accepted Japanese games.
2) a) The fact that opinions on Western styles are mixed even in Western culture does not speak to the inherent inferiority of Western cultural exports so much as to the mix of cultures and opinions of Western societies, especially in contrast to the monolithic Japanese culture.
2) b) Games (such as the Yakuza series, Okami, Persona, etc.) can have purely Japanese cultural relevance and be accepted by a wide variety of people in Western culture (indicating a desire to learn or understand obscure Japanese culture in order to get the necessary context). Japanese gamers, by and large, have not shown a reciprocal desire to get the necessary context to play and enjoy totally Western games.

3) Even if the fact that the Japanese don't like Western games is not due to xenophobia, it is still somewhat unusual that they so universally pan Western games, and the fact that they are xenophobic is still an interesting (if not totally valid) explanation as to the why.


There, disagree if you want, but that's the summation of my point, and I'm tired of arguing with you.

 

[Polite Sage]

The Japanese gaming industry is huge and they have different copyright laws that allow all kinds of cool <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Djin_soft>doujin games, plus the Japan-only <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel>visual novel industry. They have A LOAD of native games and the taste of a regular Japanese gamer differs greatly from a western one, as said in the before mentioned EC episode.

Though Japanese are said to be more xenophobic due to their "island culture" and they do tend to lump all "evil foreigners" together (f.ex. when a foreigner commits some crime the news usually report him/her as a "dirty foreigner" and not as "dirty American/Brit/Finn/Russian" etc.). No personal exp though.

 

[Kirex]

Who ever says the Japanese are xenophobic are probably xenophobic to the Japanese...

When someone says "Japanese are xenophobic", he surely doesn't claim that of every single japanese person. It's a cultural thing, I don't deny that there are really nice guys in Japan, but it's like saying "Japanese are not very outspoken on their opinion".
Which they are certainly not, it's cultural, they are told they shouldn't question authority from childhood on. That doesn't make me begrudge them or anything, of course the new, young Japanese generation certainly turns around many aspects of the culture, but the older people still are to a degree not very outspoken and xenophobic. Not every single one, never said that.

 

[VanTesla]

Who ever says the Japanese are xenophobic are probably xenophobic to the Japanese...

When someone says "Japanese are xenophobic", he surely doesn't claim that of every single japanese person. It's a cultural thing, I don't deny that there are really nice guys in Japan, but it's like saying "Japanese are not very outspoken on their opinion".
Which they are certainly not, it's cultural, they are told they shouldn't question authority from childhood on. That doesn't make me begrudge them or anything, of course the new, young Japanese generation certainly turns around many aspects of the culture, but the older people still are to a degree not very outspoken and xenophobic. Not every single one, never said that.

You have a point, but the opposite is true for many western people holding such views and especially the older people. Before and WW2 change many things for both sides but the older generations still hold on to the past.

 

[lacktheknack]

Because people have less self-awareness than ever before.

That's fine, I'll keep all the amazingness the Russians have given gaming to myself.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I call them Xenophobic because they are. I have a friend there who is half english and half japanese, and he's been treated like an outsider all his life. Fuck, he even said there are pubs and bars where all the mixed people meet.

Seriously. They need bars.
Pisses me off to think of that. He's one of the most awesome people I've ever had the luck to meet and befriend.

I think you misunderstand what xenophobia is or aren't giving all the info. Does he like being treated in this way and only stick to people similar to him on purpose or does he do it because he has to as no one will socialise with him? If it is the former he is xenophobic if it is the latter he isn't

 

[infinity_turtles]

Having actually lived in Japan during Junior High, I'd say yes, the Japanese tend to be pretty xenophobic. Commonly, when I went to hang out someplace with classmates, I'd get kicked out of stores, arcades, and restaurants.(Depended on who was working that day as much as where I went) More then half the teachers constantly talked down to me for being a poor little Gaijin. Though I will say only a couple of other students gave me shit, which is about the same as those who did back here in the states.

 

[Inner Pickle]

New York in the US = Paris in Europe = Tokio in Japan

For some reason, every monster, alien or virus just craves to take these cities down.

Europe is not one big fracking country. Paris is not representative of the whole of Europe. Only France.

OT: Er, I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

If we go about Europe and monsters, Romania has had way more than any other nation lol.