Zontar said:
altnameJag said:
Recent revitalization meaning [Had a few months on top last year during a company wide relaunch". They got the same bump from the New52. It lasts about a year.
Unlike Neo52 it was positively received though, and Marvel has been going through its own attempt at a relaunch too, just without success.
Marvel is not, in fact, rebooting their entire universe, and I'm curious as to how you got that impression. Is it the new legacy heroes?
And Rebirth is doing basically the same numbers as New52, just twice as quickly because they are being published every two weeks instead of monthly.
Yes but it was pretty much the same for a few months so I didn't realize DC had lost one to Marvel. Though given Image has just over half as many active comics as Marvel and isn't one of the big two. , that's still impressive.
It's
The Walking Dead. You know, that hit tv show with the video games and the colossal amount of merch?
For that matter, find me two months in a row where the top ten was DC 8, Marvel 1, Image 1. Because I had to backtrack over 6 months to find
1, and it wasn't connected. And it was literally the thrid month of Rebirth, where two of those titles were #1s (#1s always sell better), three of them were Batman, and two of them were Justice League, all of which were still in their first story arcs.
Even then, DC's market share advantage of 8.5% slipped to 5% and kept dropping. Which proves the opposite point to "Marvel is failing because diversity and DC is cleaning up.
Last fall, DC and Marvel went 50/50 in the top ten super hero franchises, and while DC has fewer franchises, most of them are publishing two comics a month. Like, 20 entries in that top 50 are held by 10 comics. And DC is still lagging behind.
Doesn't look good when you're putting out more comics than the other guy and selling less, yeah?
I think you're mixing up the numbers here. Marvel is significantly more titles then DC yet the gap between them in terms of market share is 1/9th that of the gap between their volume of titles. Franchises aren't a good metric for counting things given how many titles fall under each and how at the end of the day sales for said titles are what matter.
No mate, it's your math that doesn't add up.
Batman, the title, not the franchise, has been putting a new comic out twice a month since Rebirth. Same for Justice League, same for Harley Quinn, same for Suicide Squad, same for Superman, etc. Which means, even with only 60 odd
titles, they're putting out upwards of 100 comics a month. Which you'd know if you knew about comics or looked at the charts, considering the same titles tend to show up multiple times. Marvel, on the other hand, is mostly running the one-comic-a-month thing. Math.
Meanwhile,
by November, Marvel had over an 11% market share lead, and the 4 DC titles in the top 10 were all Batman books. (
Batman #10 and
#11, All-Star Batman #4, and
Batman Annual #1. This is not indicative of a healthy stable of heroes.) DC managed to claw some back, but it's hardly like they're dominating the market.
You're looking at the surface level of a single data point and you're extrapolating an entire thesis out of it. Meanwhile, the facts are different.
Saelune said:
Edit: Also they ruined Goldar.
You know, based on this thread I was thinking of giving the movie a theater watch, but now I dunno. Goldar was the man...ape...whatever.