How come no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore?

[LitleWaffle]

I love bacon, but I "strongly detest" or "intensely dislike" coffee.

Social tip for Modern Ages: Contrary to popular belief, hate is indeed, a strong word.

When you say you hate something, you "get all up in the grill" or something like that at the people you say it too.
This is why people argue and shun you. You get too up close and personal without easing into it.

If you wish to say that you hate something, you have to have a strong point(s) as to why.

For Example: I hate soda.

Reason: I can't stand sparkling water. While this point may be very simple, it is a strong valid point. It is easily defended to the point where people can accept it.

Defense for "I can't stand sparkling water": It makes the drink really strong and bitter, and it hurts my throat when I try to swallow it. The taste of all the ones I have tried along with the sparkling water make it a not so enjoyable taste in the first place.

Your defense for bacon however: "It is disgusting" is very loose, you need a stronger point to stand by. If that is what you say to people when you try to explain why you don't like bacon, than your doing it wrong.

However, if that is the reason why you don't like it, which seems very plausible, you then need to make it more specific. Even "I don't care for the taste" may get you better results. However, since I absolutely love bacon, I can't really help you with reasons.

 

[Caravaggio]

Because Hate can turn you into an asshole.

(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)

As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.

Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.

You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.

(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)

Once more, I apologize for the casual use of the word hate, only I will restate, I began by telling people that I prefer not to eat bacon, my exact words 90% of the time being "I don't like bacon" then they call me a freak. Then I say it tastes bad and is bad for you. They suggest that the government burn my house down. (not in so many words, but I think they considered it)

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Come now people this abuse has to end. It seems that now that we've at least made it socially unacceptable to not be tolerant in most of today's industrialized world, we have to stoop to alienating people who aren't interested in things that a group of people feel is good.

Except that you don't get to be a part of that group you claim are being oppressed. "People who aren't interested in things that a group of people feel (are) good" does not describe what you've portrayed yourself as in the least.

I'm not gay. As such, I don't have romantic or sexual interest in men. Makes sense, no? But as a result of that, I'm not suddenly entitled to be an oppressed minority if I don't get to say, "I hate gays" without any sort of verbal reprimand.

I do not alienate people for liking coffee or bacon or whatever it is that they like, so why must I be ostracized by people for not liking these things?

Because you ''do'' alienate people by spewing venom and bile whenever someone mentions that they like bacon or coffee. In your words:

Why am I not allowed to hate bacon? It's disgusting and has obvious health risks.

Apparently bacon is unequivocally disgusting. You could have said "I don't like it," but no, instead, you decided that "It's disgusting" and that all of us that do like bacon must have been mistaken for thinking that it tasted good.

And yes, I am aware that many people will be urged to childishly quote me and write how bacon/coffee is amazing, regardless of the facts, even just to 'kid' with me, so I would like to formally request, anyone who wishes to preform the above atrocity, please take a good introspective look at your life and whether you would like to be known as the one who sided with the cults of bacon/coffee. And if you find that you still want to, I suggest you buy a lifetime supply of the item and concentrate on it and not this thread.

...and you continue, for some reason. Apparently liking bacon and coffee is grounds for a membership in a cult. It's also apparently grounds to have your opinion invalidated when in the presence of the enlightened Caravaggio.

Edit: OK I understand, hate is a strong word. My hatred began only as dislike, but I was bashed so much for this it polarized into hatred. Still, I try to use the word sparingly and hope its seemingly casual use on this post has not seriously offended anyone.

lulz. I'd say the plethora of other words and phrases you used besides 'hate' are more than enough to offend people.

Also! I never attempted to drill into anyone's head that they shouldn't eat/drink bacon/coffee!
I simply tell people that one of the reasons for my dislike/hate/whatever you want to call it stems from the negative values toward your health from the products.

Liar. I challenge you to find someone who so espouses the negative of any given item (and phrases it in such a way that anyone who disagrees with him is wrong, an idiot, or both) and doesn't do so with the wish to stop people from using said item.

 

[zombays]

You can't HATE bacon. you can only dislike it.

 

[Treblaine]

I'm not sure if I'd call these people who gave you such a hard time about your opinion, "friends." Who cares what people like or dislike? I just think people have too much time on their hands to be honest to even think of these things. Are you telling me you would not eat this?

lol, talk about people having too much time on their hands..however, I love bacon, and would have a taste of this for sure!

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Mmmmmm, Christianity has never Looked so delicious.... mmmmm, sacrilegious...

 

[LitleWaffle]

ya, i hate the scott pilgrim movie, ive had to watch it 3 times (one for a review, one cause of my gf and once more cause my gf wanted to watch it with her sister) and i still fu**ing hate it!

Awww, i loved that movie! Any reason as to why you hate it that you could actually explain?

 

[Drakmeire]

I stopped reading after you said you hate bacon. I hate people who hate bacon.
and hate has always been awesome
Just ask Francis.
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[Caravaggio]

I hate.
I never forgive.
I never forge...wait, what was i saying? Oh dear, i'm getting old. Anyone?

You're not getting old, Riddlen; You're just running Windows. Reboot and you'll be fine.


Regarding hatred and its use/misuse, most hates start out as dislikes and after being questioned umpteen times in the following fashion, "Why don't you like [insert object of dislike here]? It is teh awsum.", the dislike gets associated with people who can't take a hint and blooms into full-fledged hate.

Example? I detest Starbucks coffee. When I originally sampled it, I made a face and vowed never to spend my money on it again. However, when I talk to people who like Starbucks and am asked what my opinion is, I nearly always get a look of stunned disbelief followed by a "How can you say that?" Mildly negative opinion + repetitive negative judgment based on said opinion = a solid loathing of Starbucks coffee.

Oh, and to those who feel an opinion is not a valid reason to hate, let me tell you a little secret: Hatred is an opinion. Same as enjoyment, contentment, dislike, annoyance, and countless other feelings. You have an experience and the emotion you feel is your opinion of that experience. It's your personal take on what just happened. It doesn't have to be reasonable, fair, just, or even coherent. In fact, the less reasoning there is behind an opinion, the more pure that opinion is.

Thank you so much for being the first person to understand my use of the word hate. (This is not condescension, and if someone posted something like this first I apologize for having skimmed over it).

 

[camokkid]

How can you lose a friend over bacon? It's... it's bacon! It's a pretty tasty strip of meat and fat. Is it really the fact you don't like bacon they're annoyed over, or the fact you won't join in the joke?

I mean it's not like it was Marmite (All hail the Black Goo God).

I don't think that everybody likes marmite as much as you do

[link/]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6fco14Gi0[/link]

 

[maiiau]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

 

[Treblaine]

Because Hate can turn you into an asshole.

(courtesy of the Westbro Baptist Church)

As bad as things may seem you just need to keep a cool head and keep things in perspective. Hate makes it too hard to take a step back and weight things up for what they are truly worth, so you and up doing dumb things that hurt what you never intended in the first place.

Hate is an inevitable human emotion, but let it out by vigorous swearing and punching something inanimate, don't let it get to you like the haters.

You can still have an opinion, but keep your cool and always back it up with reasoned intentions, always keeping in mind your intended aims. If you don't like something, by all means criticise it, that's not the same as hate.

(BTW, what are "fag enablers"? Do they mean smokers? Also, also: Colour, Aluminium, Kilometre, black pudding!)

Once more, I apologize for the casual use of the word hate, only I will restate, I began by telling people that I prefer not to eat bacon, my exact words 90% of the time being "I don't like bacon" then they call me a freak. Then I say it tastes bad and is bad for you. They suggest that the government burn my house down. (not in so many words, but I think they considered it)

Sorry OP, I'm just using your title as a springboard.

Shame about your bacon-phobia. But now you can hang out with Jews and Muslims without ANY awkwardness at ALL!

Yep, I realise what I just said.

 

[Ethylene Glycol]

Shame about your bacon-phobia. But now you can hang out with Jews and Muslims without ANY awkwardness at ALL!

Not if he's uncut. [sub]loldongs[/sub]

 

[Caravaggio]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

 

[Mcupobob]

I wouldn't be able to go on living if I didn't have bacon and coffee. I have coffee and half or full smoke(depending on my mood) every morning I can. For bacon, well I only have it for small special occasions and such.

But hey you can hate/like whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anybody and those "friends" sound like dushbags. In less it was you who took the argument overboard then its you. I wasn't there so I won't judge.

 

[Orwellian37]

Everyone just needs to chill out about this.

I really hate most fast food, except Freebirds.

 

[Caravaggio]

I feel the need to post this
http://xkcd.com/418/
And yes I've been looked at as some crazed lunatic for actually hating the Beatles by many of my friends and straight yelled at that I'm wrong by people who are not my friends.

YES! The Beatles are bloody awful in my opinion and people need to stop saying that they invented rock. What they did in rock was farther from what rockers have done in the forty years since them then even Elvis. Come now people, see the truth.

Not even that people try to argue that they are better musicians than any of the members in The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin when that is just straight up WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Precisely my point!!
The only innovative thing they did at all was be the first to put random noises in the background of their music. And that went out of style after the eighties!

Sir I think I found someone I can actually talk too! Though bacon and coffee would not be in any of our conversations because I love them so much even though I know they're killing me.


P.S.Fuck John Lennon.

I can agree with you guys here. Some of the later stuff they did was ok but nothing great. I've always thought The Beatles were one of the most overrated bands.

> The Beatles are overrated
> Led Zeppelin isn't

what

Exactly!!!! Thank you all for agreeing with me on this.

No, I'm saying you're a fucking moron. I guess I was just a little too subtle for you.

The only "innovation" Led Zeppelin brought to rock music was writing shitty, long-winded, repetitive wankfests about elf cities and vikings sung by a guy who'd go on to inspire countless legions of castrated males to start their own metal bands. They're the single most overrated rock band on the planet, and the only reason no other mainstream band before or since has sounded like them is that they're completely fucking awful. At least the Beatles could sing in tune.

Well then, your opinion is one I disagree with but I must mention that I never once have directly insulted a person on this thread, only the views of a general mass of people. Also I have not yet broken and sworn.

 

[RandomAbuse]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

Nobody said that Elvis didn't... just because he did doesn't mean that the Beatles didn't...

 

[maiiau]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

 

[Karlosdj86]

In psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness.

therefore, technically speaking. your friends hate bacon and coffee more than you do.

Can't think of a better way to destroy bacon than eating it, can you?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I apologize for the condescension. I'm just a bit grumpy about being patronized. And I hope that statement doesn't sound like condescension, it wasn't meant to be, I would merely like to draw attention to what I reacted to being patronizing in itself.

That's the thing with text. It's only two-dimensional. If you have time, always re-read what you've written to make sure you can't offend someone with it. (This in itself could be seen to be patronising - but I'm hoping you'll catch the jist.)

If someone does like coffee though, they usually have already weighed the pros/cons in their mind and decided to go with it. Same with bacon. There's few things worse than hearing someone saying "You made the wrong choice!", and that's where the anger comes from.

If you hate coffee, fine. But it's not cool to tell a coffee-lover that. Tell a coffee-hater and get really bitter over a nice cup of tea. But talk to the coffee lover about something like vests. Even Francis doesn't hate vests.